08-20-2008, 05:58 PM
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08-20-2008, 06:17 PM
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Yes I believe paddling should be put back in schools!Time out and telling them No only seems to tell them that they can get away with anything and only get an inconivence!
Spare the rod and spoil the child, we have more spoiled kids than we can handle!
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08-20-2008, 08:01 PM
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ok...... Some behavior problems stem from a lack of discipline parents send their children to school and expect our teachers to raise their children for them. Some problems come from lack of attention in the home, understandable in a day and age where it takes both parents working just to make the ends come close together, they don't always meet. Some problems are LD that are hard to diagnose even with an attentive parent who cares. Some are just kids who act out, do naughty things.... "bad kids" I honestly think though that a good portion of the problem is diet... yeah this coming from the fat girl..... what do most children eat before school if they eat at all? sugar, carbs and fats and for some caffeine. they are all wound up first thing in the morning then for morning break they again have sugary snacks and sugary beverages, back inside too wound up to do anything but jabber and fidget until lunch....... more sugary drinks even if its juice for gods sake., typically a high carb meal with fats and a little protein which doesn't help with concentration.... and of course...... you have to have dessert........ SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!! and theres nothin you can do about it. so you might as well threaten them it worked for me.
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08-20-2008, 08:29 PM
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I don't think it should be permitted in schools, on the basis that it's the parents' job to discipline the children. I was well behaved in school (for the most part) and I got grounded and sent to the corner.......but there were a few times when I was spanked. I do think that there are a few teachers that need to pay more attention to their students and get involved a bit more. Parents don't know what goes on with their kids at school without the teachers telling them. I know I didn't tell my mom anything about anything if I could help it. I'm not necessarily blaming one side or the other, but both sides. There are teachers that care, and parents that care, and subsequently you get a decent kid that does fairly well in school and in the world. There are way too many factors involved, however to pin point one reason or another. Doesn't give someone else the right to paddle a kid in my opinion.
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08-20-2008, 08:38 PM
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It is merely another form of behavior modification through application of negative stimuli.
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08-20-2008, 08:41 PM
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I never got in real trouble at school. I got detentions for not doing homework but other than that I've always been a good girl at least at school. But I also knew that if I were to get in trouble at school, my parents were going to beat me black and blue.
And LordSnow, darling you don't mind spanking my fathers' daughter! and I'm sooooo glad!
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08-20-2008, 08:46 PM
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It does work to a certain extent. I do know a few kids that no matter how much they're beaten they haven't gotten any better though. As for spanking you kyttn, that's a pleasure, not actual punishment. That doesn't change my opinion that spanking a child is up to the parents and not the school system. It's the school system's job to tell the parents that the child needs a good smack upside buttocks.
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08-20-2008, 10:06 PM
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I say leave the paddling to the adults and find more constructive ways to teach children to behave.
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08-20-2008, 10:20 PM
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Yankee in Dixie
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No matter what the punishment, each can only go so far. You send the child to his room and he plays with his toys, time out and he twiddles his thumbs and will most likely do it again, ground him from one thing he'll find a way to do it anyway or replace the activity with another. Beat him and once the pain goes away he'll do it again and try harder not to get caught or he'll do something else that's just as bad if not worse. There really isn't an effective way to truly punish a child without him doing it again, something worse, or actually learning not to do it again. I think there is a difference between beatings and spankings. To me, a beating involves an object. A spanking, is open palm and enough to sting but not leave bruises.
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08-20-2008, 10:30 PM
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my parents always used objects. hair brushes, kindling, yardstick, leather strap..... rarely if ever used a hand.
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08-20-2008, 11:05 PM
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What do I know? I just turned 22 and have no children and very little experience dealing with them.
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"BOY: On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? GIRL: Will he offer me his mouth? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Will he offer me his teeth? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Will he offer me his jaws? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Will he offer me his hunger? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Again, will he offer me his hunger? BOY: Yes! GIRL: Yes. BOY: On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? GIRL: Yes. BOY: I bet you say that to all the boys!" -Meatloaf
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08-20-2008, 11:46 PM
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As the mother of three...AND a former teacher I will add this spanking has it's place. School is where we teach reading, writing, and so forth. There is a reason and purpose to spanking. Parents however need to raise and teach their children and not leave that for the teachers.
I will tell you my kids get spanked. It is rare and takes a lot to get to that point...but it happens.
Now when I am a bad girl....thats another story!
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08-21-2008, 12:02 AM
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I say that there is a time and a place for everything and sometimes that is at school.
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08-21-2008, 12:43 AM
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Well I will be the one to step up. I discipline my kids at home when it is needed or calls for it. I discipline them in public if they are really bad. I grew up with the knowledge that if I misbehaved and it was necessary I got spanked or slapped.
As for schools, I think some of the problem is that in the days that most of us grew up we were not treated with kids gloves. If I acted out in a disruptive manor at school I knew I would be sent to the office and spanked. They had my mother's permission. Yes there is a time and a place for it, and today's youth does not respect or fear teachers. That is some of the problems of today. A good spanking can do a lot to remind a kid to behave and do what is needed.
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08-21-2008, 02:57 AM
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If you start a child early enough on positive and negative feedback, the concept of do/don't do settles in.
Smack a kid in public here and the do-gooders'll have you arrested for assault of the darling cherub.
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