fascinating stuff...the wonders of science never cease to amaze me.NPR segment

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I heard about that and it's just amazing......taking all the fun out of it

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yeah...lol...i think i'll still get mine the old fashioned way.

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some fairly sordid tales, rambles, and anecdotes
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straight from the source

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What Did You Do Today? Self Defense Class ~Short Sweet Snippets~ § Summer Spin § Story Challenge Submission Pajamas

the spring hidden deep in the froest so to speak

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Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo glad to hear that!!!!!!!!!

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Just answer me this...WHY?

Why when we already have perfectly good and abundant sperm all over the planet...WHY, WHY, WHY?

I really wish they'd stop fucking up the premise of the good that could come from stem cell research. This is the kinda shit that scares the "God fearing" people of this world and makes them think [we] are trying to play "God" or fool Mother Nature...or whatever it is that they are afraid of...and takes away from the endless possibilites of such a wondrous research. With all the possibilities of cures for many mysterious diseases...STOP fixing something that ain't broke!

Maybe, not ALL men were meant to have babies (infertility reference from the article)...so if they can't, maybe they can adopt!!!??? If we keep finding ways to put MORE people on this planet...and at the same time we are curing those who would otherwise die...where the hell are we all gonna live? The cycle of life is in place for a reason. That there are people already here...suffering, through no fault of their own, with a crippling disease or paralysis, and would wholely benefit from stem cell research and it's cures...should be the focus of this miraculous possibility. Not, how to make more people who might someday contract a disease that hasn't been cured yet because we were too busy just making more people!

What a vicious circle!

Geezzzzzzzzzzz...boys and their toys, eh?

*looks down* Oh SHIT! Someone call off this damn soapbox! It follows me wherever I go anymore! *jumps down and exits...stage left*

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Lixy,

This is not about being able to create an army of crazed sperm which will conquer the

world.

This is about someone who has lost the ability to generate healthy sex cells, whether through

castration, ovary removal, chemotherapy or any of a number of other things, being

able to have (probably through a surrogate womb) their own child.

It's not pretty, but if you don't have the option of drinking from the well, any drink is

better than none.

Is that deep or am I babbling again?

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Can you imagine some day the hit song will be ... "My Daddy was a Dildo ... Really."

Do-wah?

Can you imagine when they start forming eggs in petri dishes. You could have two dishes in the lab; go for coffee; and find out you've got twins when you come back?

Mrs Jones, wonderful news! You've got tri((crash)) twins.

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You're not babbling...and I know what infertility means. I don't picture an army of crazed sperm which will conquer the world (though, I referred to some of the people that might in my previous post)...but what I do picture is precious time spent creating new people when perfectly good (well...maybe not so perfectly good...but existing) people are already here, just waiting to be adopted. AND...the precious time spent on making the newbies could be spent trying to fix what is already in the here and now...like Altzeimers (sp?) and AIDS and so on and so on. After we've got all of our existing "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed...then is the time to start thinking of how we can make infertile people's fertile.

That's all I was saying Oldfart...*hugs*

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i can see your point and understand your frustrations with what seems to be a frivolous discovery, but here's my opinion (if you were really wondering and not just asking a rhetorical question lol); because we're human and some of us, especially scientists, have this insatiable curiosity, this need to take things apart and see how they work, to muck and fidget until we've broken it down into as many teeny tiny pieces as we can in the hope that it will help us to better understand our world or maybe even give us a clue to those killer questions: why are we HERE? what IS the meaning of life?

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Trees give peace to the souls of men * Nora Waln

The forest would be very quiet if no other birds sang than those who sing the best * Henry van Dyke

some fairly sordid tales, rambles, and anecdotes
Hypothetically Speaking * Something More * Cammy Interrupted * An Experimental Vacation * Masked * so..damn..hot * Thank You * My toy, his idea * no.19 Maple Lane * I Have A Surprise For You * Yesterday * In a Quiet Kitchen * help me decide * untitled prose * more untitled prose