03-13-2004, 08:53 AM
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I think if people don't appreciate you for who you are as a person and don't bother to take the time to get to know you, they arent' worth your time....
and I think that applies to other monikers as well....
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03-13-2004, 08:56 AM
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Loulabelle, I don't know if you qualify either, but I'm dead certain you qualify as a beautiful woman, and that's the point I'm trying to make. thereiam seems to agree with my point that we should overthrow the labels, I think--I second the pox. I'm not really fighting the machine that would call me a BBW--that's too big a job--but rather the internal labels we put on ourselves when we post, when we think about ourselves.
In discussing it with my husband, he pointed out that some folks prefer a pleasingly plump woman, and the "BBW" label helps them find these women quickly and easily in the collection of beauty that is the women of Pixies, a shared vocabulary.
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03-13-2004, 08:58 AM
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<====Has no problem with labels
There are worse things to be called.....i got better thing ta do with my life than worry about what ppl call me to be honest
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03-13-2004, 09:03 AM
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03-13-2004, 12:03 PM
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Labels are both a blessing and a curse - especially PC ones.
I think it's OK if you are not offended, and I propose adding one:
SSW = Skinny, Sickly Waif.
You must be proud of what you are and others WILL judge, or pre-judge, and it THEY need a lable to understand - so be it.
It's not what THEY see that matters it's what YOU see.
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03-13-2004, 01:47 PM
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I appreciate the humor of the "SSW," and must admit that in darker days I got my kicks commenting on them myself. However, I don't want to engage in the reverse size-ism (nice--I'm making up words now) and indicate that a woman who who isn't a D-cup and possessed of a significant booty is somehow less a woman. That would be counter to my whole point. This may well be my "stuff," and I'm generally happy to ruminate in isolation, but the temptation of soliciting the opinions of like, and open, minds was too great, hence the thread. Thanks all who have, and who will, continue to weigh in on the matter.
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03-13-2004, 02:06 PM
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Red~ I understand your point and have similar views. I object to being labeled in general personally. I also think it's completely unnecessary to say I am a BBW.
B~ if you look at me it's obvious I am not diminutive
B~ it's not my size that makes the people who find me beautiful feel that way, so it seems like linking the size and the attribute a contrived pairing to somehow make the second B applicable to the first. What if I were big and a wretched person whose ugly heart showed on her face? Beauty is not related to size. I know psycho bitches of every size and shape.
W~ this is the one part of the label I will gladly accept. I am indeed a woman. There are a zillion features both external and personality-wise that comprise what type of woman and to limit it to saying BBW does who I am an injustice.
I think when describing one's appearance they often find it easy to say ..."I'm a BBW." it rids you of many insensitive types immediately and attracts the people who don't view size as an important factor in beauty. I don't have an issue with it being used and think people should labels themselves with what ever they are comfortable with or not. Those two Bs just would not be my first choice to connect with the W when describing me.
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03-13-2004, 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
I think when describing one's appearance they often find it easy to say ..."I'm a BBW." it rids you of many insensitive types immediately and attracts the people who don't view size as an important factor in beauty. I don't have an issue with it being used and think people should labels themselves with what ever they are comfortable with or not. Those two Bs just would not be my first choice to connect with the W when describing me.
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I think you make an excellent point here that I hadn't really considered in any but the vaguest way, in that it can be a weed-out tool. That was a fear I had, as well, before I posted and received such a warm and accepting response.
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03-14-2004, 01:36 AM
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AZRed, I can see your point of view. However, in my opinion, I like the BBW title.
For example, if I'm looking at a written description of erotic material(like on another website), I'll be more inclined to check out the BBW material than the non-BBW specific stuff.
I realize, of course, that this is my own opinion and doesn't carry much influence, but it's the way I am.
I've never looked at it as being detrimental at all. It just makes finding what I'm looking for a whole lot easier, instead of having to sift through tons of skinny porn.
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03-14-2004, 09:15 AM
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Loulabelle, yes we do.
I'm one of those people who has to put labels on people, like
Lilith, Pantyfanatic, Loulabelle etc because if I don't, people don't
know who I'm talking to/about.
Other labels are optional.
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03-14-2004, 09:21 AM
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OldFart is it a lick-n-stick label??
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03-14-2004, 12:42 PM
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I learn something new every day... I have been wrong about the meaning of BBW all these years... I had always assumed it stood for Big Busted Women, regardless of the size of the rest of them.
So see, in my eyes you are all beautiful... Just some of you are "BB" Big Busted.... ha ha...
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03-14-2004, 02:22 PM
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Well, despite my size, (between an 18 and a 22 US) I have never thought of myself as a BBW. Not to say that I don't think of myself as a large woman, because I do, and I would like to lose a few dress sizes. But I am also 5'10" with a medium frame. This automatically means that if I was to get below a size 12/14 that I would start to look too thin for my body in my opinion, because even though I am large, I also tend to look smaller due to my size. People always tend to think that I am 20 - 40 pounds less than I actually am.
Of course human beauty comes in a myriad of shapes, sizes, and colors so it really shouldn't matter.
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03-15-2004, 06:12 PM
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I too think the label BBW is too inclusive. Just because you are a larger female does not make you beautiful, and I've known plenty of thin women that I would not describe with that word. Some of those were attractive, but only on the outside. For me, 'BBW' is helpful for finding groups of pictures featuring curvy women. Or, to put it bluntly, chubby women. (Hey, I know what I like.  ) Either way, in the search results I don't find every single woman beautiful to look at, but I do find quite a few. And to be honest, at that point I've got my cock in hand and it's all about the outer appearance. 
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03-15-2004, 07:58 PM
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I must have been having a sensitive day that day. To be perfectly honest, some cheeky bastard in a chat referred to me that way (in our first chat, within 5 minutes), and it set me off, because while I'm a strapping girl, pretty cute, and in fact female, I wouldn't have applied it to myself, and it really put me off to be labeled by a stranger.
The BBW label something I have avoided, and will continue to avoid, in my references to myself, and by now, everyone at Pixies has a pretty good idea of what they're going to see when they open my pics, so I don't know that I need to advertise my curvaliciousness in that manner. But the label may not be the downfall of Western Civilization as we know it.  I don't mind being referred to as "chubby" even, as Aqua mentions. It's an adjective, rather than a label. What's the difference? Is it just semantic? I don't think so. I guess an adjective is just that. But a label is, oh I don't know, ascribing a whole bunch of other stuff. Chubby is chubby. No more, no less. But BBW seems like a lifestyle, and it isn't. I can see the men's point--it allows them to find what they're looking for, and that's valid. |
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