What do you think. Does what we do in the sack today differ greatly from our ancestors. I am thinking..probably not. I bet there were cultures where oral sex was very common. Or anal sex for that matter (greek).

I don't think what we do is any different, but the fact that we TALK about it is what is different.

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The "forbidden" paontings of Pompeii and Herculaneum are risque even by today's standards.

In the old tribal cultures where everyone ate and slept in the same cave, I suspect things would have been very vanilla, but wild apes have an array of sexual practices.

Jane Goodall has referred to a few with the chimps.

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I'd have to say yes sex has evolved. There are swinger clubs etc out there, whereas when our ancestors walked around, they wouldn't have thought of having an orgy as it probably never even entered their mind. Cleopatra was also know for her sexcapades as well as her beauty. Also back then, they didn't have video/TV with porn readily available to people. It would have been primitive compared to now.

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i doubt cavemen were organizing orgies, but i think once civilizations—even the primitive ones—were birthed, that sex was likely at least a small part of sacred, pagan, secular, and government ceremonies as well as just a huge part of daily life, and prolly some pretty kinky stuff too. in a slightly more modern era there are times when overt sexuality becomes taboo and times when it’s the exact opposite and times when its acceptance is somewhere in-between, but what has evolved is access. anyone within walking distance of a puter can access any bizarre, erotic, sickening, shocking, loving, or perverted sexual act ever conceived by man, beast or cartoon.

so no, sex hasn't evolved all that much.

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In the same way that wild animals do not 'organise' orgies, but sex with multiple partners at one time takes place quite frequently, I imagine that group sex has been around for as long as human beings have.

If sex has evolved, I would argue that it has become more 'civilised' and tabboo than in previous times, certainly when you look at ancient Greek and Roman cultures and no doubt going further back in history than that. I think it is naive to assume that our sexual practises today are 'wilder' than they were thousands of years ago, as I'm pretty sure that group sex, incest, rape and underage sex are far less common practises today than once they were.

The sophistication of our pornography may well have evolved however, I think this, at least in part, has developed as more and more sexual practises have become frowned upon in the 'real world' and become the stuff of fantasy only.

Sex in art, drama and literature has definitely become more tame than in previous times. A particular phrase from a Greek comedy we studied in school will remain in my head for eternity:

"He cunnilingus practises,
On all the whores in town"

Considering this was part of a popular play (the equivalent form of entertainment as watching TV or going to the cinema) it's a pretty risque line by today's standards, but was considered funny but not shocking back then. Likewise in Greek comedy, male characters not only wore masks but also cod pieces with a massively exagerated false erection attached to them, purely for comedy value. Again, I can't even see this going down well in the bawdy comedies of Shakespeare or Chaucer's generation.

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I agree.

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Evolution? We've gone from splitting in two to trying to rejoin the pair. How much more basic can we get?

Sexual practice in societies has oscillated rather than evolved. The permissiveness pendulum has been swinging probably ever since we've grouped together enough to make it possible.

Now we need to decide if cyber-sex in it's many forms is sex or intellectual activity.

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lou i agree that there is nothing done in the sack today that hasn't been done before but as far as sexuality in art and mass media goes, i think there are tons of radio shows, plays, paintings, novels and movies that are wild by anyone's standards. more accessible and more of them, too; whether that increase is a reflection of population growth or tastes i don't know, probably population. and even more innocuous stuff like commercials, talk shows, soaps, and sit-coms find ways to insert bawdy jokes, although the language isn't always as "vulgar" the idea is the same.

and the extreme--what i have read aboiut the recent indi film destricted blows away anything that ever came before in its frankness and vulgarity.

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My guess is that the only thing that changes is the way we view our sexual practices..."porn" is really a modern concept, mostly born out of Victorian times, the paintings that OF referred to were not so much for erotic stimuation as they were billboards in the brothels of the day, a "menu" of services availible to their clientel...I would expect that cave men & women experimented with every variation of inserting whatever appendange into whatever opening or crevice till they found the ones they liked the most, & it was only later that the priests came along to tell them which ones were unacceptable in the eyes of the dieties...

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It's changed a lot--contraception.

No it has not evolved has some have said. It has gone backward as we get more civilized. The cavemen did not care about there partners sex, just that it felt good. There are cave drawings of all sorts of coupleings and from just two people to large numbers involed. With religion we got restrictings. But even the Bible say that Adam and Eves children had sex with each other to populate the world. Noah's grandchildren had to have sex with each other to repopulate the world. People just do not like to think of that part of the meanings in the Good Book.

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Yes, I'm afraid pornography is not a new concept either, as some would say. Obviously technology means that we now have photographs of the acts rather than paintings, and in some people's eyes that means the pornography of old was 'art' but that's naive.

Again (because I'm a classical scholar) I site the pottery of Greece and Rome as examples of ancient pornography, and let me tell you there was a hell of a lot of it! In widely bisexual times, you can't tell me that nude sculptures of beautiful young men such as 'The Kritios Boy' were not appreciated for their arousing qualities as well as for thei artistic merits....

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I totally agree with Lou. We are big ole prudes right now compared to cultures in the past.

Saying we talk about it more now discounts the fact that a healthy sexual life (how to do it) was taught to children in human society all the way up to about 1000 years ago.

People were much more comfortable with sex in the past. If we have evolved, I would think it was in the wrong direction.

Except those of us at Pixies of course.