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Old 03-12-2004, 09:30 PM
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Let's discuss getting rid of the BBW moniker, ladies, shall we?

You know, for a long time, I was okay with the BBW label, because it indicated that women of size were beautiful, too, in a world that so rarely indicated that was the case. And then the men stepped up, too, (and have here at Pixies as well), to indicate their love of the soft, comfy curves of a voluptuous, zaftig woman--one with a little more sand in the hourglass--just as much as they love the more traditional standards of beauty.

But the more I live, and the more I see and appreciate the diversity of beauty that exists in the people, women and men, all around me, I wonder if the distinction needs to be made anymore. Why not just beautiful women? Aren't we? Of course we are. Somehow, starting off with the "big" seems to be a warning flag: We're beautiful...for big girls. Like we are possessed of some brand of discount beauty...there's beauty, and then there's big beauty. I don't buy it.

Segregating ourselves with a label just has us enforcing the same fascist beauty standards we've always fought against on ourselves, and I'm not sure I'm willing to be complicit in my own derogation.

I don't know, I'm feeling feisty about this. What do you think? Despite the title of this thread, the gents are as welcome as the ladies to share their feelings on this. I'm very interested in your thoughts folks, so don't hold back.

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Old 03-12-2004, 09:45 PM
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Personally... I consider myself BBW... not because I am a "Big" (tho I am) but because I am a "Beautiful BOLD woman"

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Old 03-12-2004, 09:46 PM
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well considering that a size 12 is considered big now, it's kinda hard to get rid of the saying, yeah i hear it all the time " man she's cute but she's chubby" sometimes i just want to be like up yours buddy. i guess it all comes down to how you view the word "big" personaly i find it to be liberating in the sence that it does set me appart from the croud that i can be the size that i am ( 16) and still be pretty
anyway that was my two cents
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Old 03-12-2004, 09:49 PM
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Now THAT I can get behind, Jenna! Good for you! Although, somehow I'd believe you were bold and beautiful, regardless of label. Would a rose by any other name smell as sweet? Methinks it would.
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Old 03-12-2004, 10:19 PM
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Hi Dreamgurl,
You're right...it might be hard to get rid of, but I'm more concerned with us applying it to ourselves, and not appreciating ourselves 100%. Kind of a "we must be the change we wish to see in the world" deal.
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Old 03-12-2004, 10:25 PM
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yeah that is true i guess we will have to go get pleather and 6 inch high calf boots and shout girl power ( joke) i used to love the spice girls
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Here is my 2 cents or lease. I have always been raised to see the beauty that is within a person, whether male or female, big or small, short or tall. It is what is within that truly counts. ALL the women and men here are beautiful in they're own special way. Some may show it more than others, but we are all beautiful.
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Old 03-12-2004, 10:48 PM
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Shopping and girl power, Dreamgurl? I am SO THERE! I want the real leather though (sorry to all the vegetarians out there).
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Old 03-13-2004, 01:55 AM
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It appears to be both, Mercury Maniac. I just knew this thread would be educational.

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I have to say that until I came to Pixies I didn't even know what BBW was. I think it is a more American thing than anything else.

I'm not sure if I count as a BBW or not, to be honest. The figures say that I am (my dress size, my weight etc) but my figure says I'm not. I am genuinely curvy: I have very large breasts, a small rib cage with not too much excess flesh attached and a rounded bottom.

My point is, that I think my body is beautiful (otherwise I would not post pictures here) but I have found in real life I am often overlooked by people, because I am bigger than your average woman. I post pictures here to show that underneath my clothes, I am as perfectly formed as the next woman - just scaled up slightly.

I do this in the hope that both men and women will begin to learn to look beyond the immediate size issue and appreciate the body's form, without comparing it to others.

Having said that, to be honest as long as I think I'm beautiful and as long as I'm healthy, who gives a flying monkey's arse what anyone else thinks of me. They don't have to fuck me, do they?!
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Jesus! A size 12 is large?????????? Oh hang on I guess that's an american 12 but even so I wouldn't say that's "big"!

I go for "beauty is in the eye of the beholder (or beer-holder)" - whichever you prefer!
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Well, lacking a flying monkey's arse to contribute, I will just inject a few psychotic insights into the thread.

Each and every single individual is beautiful in their own uniqueness. If everybody had the shape basic size or shape, it would be a very dull world indeed.

Labels are merely tools used by society to force us to conform to the "accepted" belief structure. A pox on all of that shit.

Everyone of us is a beautiful masterpiece, worthy of much praise and admiration. And Pixies is the perfect showcase for proving the accuracy of this, mine own opinion.
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I am sick of all the labels...I have been called a "bitch" because I am opinionated, a "slut" because I like sex, a "kiss-ass" because I am successful at my job, a "brain" because I am an engineer...and a "BBW" because I wear a size 12.

All these terms are correct in some way, but none of these monikers describes me accurately. People who are worth my time take a second look and notice this fact.

But, (((Red))) sometimes it bugs me too.
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