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This war spawns ten times the terrorists we have now, planting seeds for future terrorism that will make 9/11 seem like childsplay.
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I HIGHLY doubt that. This will most likely wake up many of the sleeper cells.. but it will not create more. If anything... it will give the long overdue message to those even remotely considering it that if they are stupid enough to try, they are signing their own death warrant.
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China will assume Soveriegn Authority to invade Taiwan.
Russia will assume Soveriegn Authority to level Chechnya.
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Not very likely. We wouldn't allow them to be the mastermind behind killing the masses anymore than we are allowing Sadam to continue to kill his. That is a very very valid reason for us to clean out Sadam... the rape policy they have, the inhuman torture of his own people for his pleasure... sorry but that psyco has to go.
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Instead of rendering the UN irrelevant, the world will render the US less relevant.
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Rendering the UN irrelevant... PLEEEEZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEE... the UN has done that to themselves. The UN sanctions that were put into place over 12 years ago (giving Sadam 45 days to disarm mind you) have never been enforced. The US & Great Britian have attempted to convince the UN to follow thru to no avail.
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Hussein and his sons will escape at the last minute to one of his few refuges (Libya? Cuba?) and will continue to be an angry wasp spewing hatred into the world. I think it was irresponsible of Bush to offer this option.
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Now.. here is something we agree on
(it was bound to happen)
I agree that this offer shouldn't have been made, altho I do see why it may have been done. I believe that the reason it was done was two fold. One reason being to give those wanting to and able to get out of that country time to do so (after all Sadam has taken hostages in the past least us forget), the other reason being to allow other countries to reconsider and support the action (strangely last count I heard was that atleast 30 other countries are supporting the US). I don't believe for a moment that Sadam would even briefly consider this option (and no doubt Bush knew he wouldn't either), afterall, if Sadam were to leave his country, he would be powerless (and quickly dead).
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Bin Laden is laughing at us. He is our enemy, and we haven't been able to figure out how to find him (maybe at the last minute, these 150,000 troops will all of a sudden turn up on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border and cream everything in sight until Osama is found).
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Bin Laden laughing? Not very likely. That evil bastard is too busy trying to come up with another way to destroy this country. He is an opportunist and no doubt is hoping that in someway this war will remove him enough from the spotlight that he can work his evil ways somehow. I highly doubt that he is pleased that Sadam has removed his limelight.
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Nobody thinks Hussein has nuclear weapons, or any means to deliver these or other weapons to US targets, so he doesn't post an active threat to our security. It is proper to defend the weak against a bully, and it may be proper to defend a people against their corrupt leader, but this is not in our self-defense interests.
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The only people that truly think that he doesn't have weapons of mass distruction are not informed enough. I don't worry about Sadam having nuclear weapons (N. Korea has that market covered), I worry about the other weapons... the chemical weapons, the musterd gas, the anthrax, etc. Sorry, those are mass enough for me. He has used many of them on his own people like lab rats...
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The best way to save and support our men and women in the service is to not send them into war.
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As a veteran... I have personal experience that tells me that you are mistaken. The best way to support our military men and women is to keep them in our thoughts and prayers and to ensure that they have a country worth coming back to. The big difference in this war is that these men and women are VOLUNTEERS, they are not drafted. They live their lives protecting this country from foes and protecting our freedoms. The best way to support these men and women is to send them care packages while they are away, to send them a note to asure them that when they return they will not have to live thru the hell that those drafted during Vietnam had to when they returned home.
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If we attack tomorrow, and Saddam kills tens of thousands of his own with chemical or biological weapons, the blood will be on our hands, too. These deaths would not have occurred if we would not have attacked, at least not at this time.
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Don't make any mistake about it, Saddam has tasted the blood of his people, and just like a rabid dog he thirsts for it. He doesn't care about their lives... and the bottom line is that we do. We want to spare them from a future under this lunitic.. having to live everyday wondering if you will die for his pleasure.
seriousfun.... I must thank you... altho we have very different views on this.. I appreciate the opportunity to debate with you... HUGS...