Do you believe in ghosts?
 

Do you believe in ghosts?

Spooky. A SICK friend sent this to me...

Legend says that she used to sit at the table and look across the fields in anticipation of her loved one returning home. He never came. So, they say, she still waits. They caught this photo of what they claim to be her. This one was wild and a little spooky once you find the ghost in the picture. It took me a few seconds to find it, but when you do it just stands out. Like one of those optical illusions.
Click on the link below (or copy and drop) for the picture. Best to enlarge. For an added touch turn up the volume, it's faint but you can hear the ghost talking sometimes in a low murmur.

<http://home.attbi.com/~n9ivo/whatswrong.swf>

I don't think so
 

Damn...now there are 2 of you I have to be careful of :p:p:p

I dont know if i believe in ghosts or what but the whole time I was growing up i lived in a house that a person had once gotten stabbed in the garage...well we had expanded the house and i learned in my teen years that my bedroom was over the old garage...we anyway i used this to explain why for about 10 years i could not keep my closet door shut, latched or anything no matter what i did to this door it would open, i even bought a little hook to shut it and the next morning it was open. Dont know how to explain it but i always liked it

Yep.

Like Clint said - Yup.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

sorry I just don't believe.........and all dogs DO NOT go to heaven. obtw mr 3 g.......spooky

I believe. where i used to live (with my parents) the house used to belong to my dads boss, his father lived there, anyway every morning at a quarter past six an indentation appeared at the bottom of mum and dads bed. it was there for about five minutes then it would disappear and they would hear footsteps going across the landing and down the stairs. my dad asked his boss about his father and apparantely he used to sit on the end of the bed in the morning when he got up and put his boots on ready for work. spooky or what.

Not in the traditional sense.

We all carry our own ghosts.

Sexual Ghosts?

*because we are on the General Sex Talk forum*

And..................Get me once, shame on you! Get me twice, shame on me! Missed me!.......Na Na Na Na Na Na!

Mrs. Lix

believe in them yes,afraid of them no. I actually still believe that someone out there in this world or another there is a Santa Clause too(no joking either).

I believe...

and if anyone happens to come across a "sexual" one... send it my way.... LOL

I believe it too... am frankly speaking, I am very afraid of it! So much so that I don't even dare to read ghost's stories or watch any ghost moive. I will wake up having nightmares at night!!! :(

gosh.... i really don't believe in ghosts. The deffinition of ghost is an absurity in itself, a physical imposibility.

2] (hey .. what happend to 1?? ) ghosts and religion (heaven) cannot be both true at the same time.

3] in order to see/hear/smell/talk, a ghost would need eyes/ears/nose/mouth+lungs+vocal cords. Having neither, it is the invisible equivalent of a vegetable. Who knows, maybe the tomato you just ate was elaborating a warp [faster than light for the non-star-trekers] engine :D

4] i do not believe in religion (incl. god) either. Don't want to give the full arguments, suffice it to say the entire christian doctrine is based on false assumptions.

5] ghosts are supposed to be the souls of the dead, BUT, when someone dies, his/her memory is VANISHED, therefore it is abruptly ilogical to assume that person will haunt his house.

6] in order to do real interaction with the physical world, a 'form of energy' shoul be extremly powerfull, and being that powefull would be struck down at the first lightning in a 20 mile area. [prove me i'm wrong...]

7] 'santa claus' EXISTS in every parent, it's a symbol of kindness, and of sacrifice, because what won't a parrent do to see his kids happy on Christmas? [PS: no, i don't believe in christmas' motive [jesus and stuff] either, but this doesn't mean i miss a good time when i see one].

8] *gathering my limbs from the floor after some obscure force jerked the chair from underneath me and smashed it in my head* ***pointing out the EXTRORDINARY REALISM of the situation :D*** - > if you really want to believe in something, believe in yourselves, in happiness, in your lover, in sex... (why not). After all, since we are all supposed to be descendents of Adam and Eve, and our really long time-ago-ancestors were having a tremendous number of incestuous relatioships to be able to expand the species, i can safely say i am nuts. and i love it.


ps: ghosts' cant' have sex for obviosly painful reasons...
***>edit<***
it was supposed to be PAINFULLY OBVIOUS, but i guess it came out the other way arround ... :D

Now I do!
 

jwalker spoke. :eek:

Ok, in an effort to tie the two topics of ghosts and sex together... hmmm... if you lay a ghost, do you need a condom? Or would a plastic sheet on the carpet or walls suffice?

Do I believe? Sure... based on arguments of a somewhat opposite nature of thun....

a - ghosts and religion in theory actually do go hand in hand, since ghosts are souls that are lost between heaven and hell, with some form of business they need finished before finding their right way.

b - the requirement of physical anatomy to have senses is only based on the presumption that they are the *only* way to perceive things. Ghosts are an existance in the form of an electrical force. Sharks sense electrical forces emitted from metal objects, which makes them think it's food... who knows how they sense it. It isn't due to smell, sight, taste, etc.

c - I definitely agree with thun on the Christian thing... without going into details LOL

d - along the same lines as "b", we can only assume memory to vanish if we believe that the physical body is the only possible way to have memory. And define exactly what memories are... scientists still don't have a solid fact on exactly what stores the memory. We only know that it's an electrical "image"....

It should be an open mind when comparing the science of paranomolies and actual physics as we know them. After all... physics are just that - what we know them to be as of right now. In the very early 1900's, it was also said that everything had been invented, so they petitioned to close down the patent office. They said it was impossible for anything better to be invented.....

"Imagine what we could do... if we could only imagine" - author unknown

~~Munk~~

:::off to teleport over Jennaflower's way::::

thun, it was a trick thread based on that link but seeingas how you missed it and the thread has deteriorated into a serious theological thread I can only say....MAN! ARE YOU IN FOR A SHOCK WHEN YOU CROAK...

I'm curious how / why you feel so strongly that our pithy little existence here is the ONLY existence. What possible condition could shut your mind so tight against simple reality.

heh, i really don't think this is our only existence, rather that what will happen next has nothing to do with any of our doctrines, since none of them is based on real fact but rather on hope.
i live because i love living, and i'm not going to throw that away, just because i know that it will eventually be over. Like a good movie. Do you get up and leave in the middle or wait 'till the end?

on another previous comment, in order to see you need eyes. Anything else woul not provide you with the same perception of reality , but with another perception. We only see ''photons''. not the huge amount of random and chaotic energy that surrounds us. A ghost seeing energy would be at least confused by the amount of vision-altering energy sources. [i am refering to the power lines, tv-s , computer, and all the 'gizmos' we use]. It's like billions of high power lights in your eyes when you try to see something...

PS: besides, i am immortal :D . Why? because i DO believe in reincarnation and because the time elapsed between my death and my rebirth will fly like a split second [not being able to feel time], i can only assume, that i will always be alive in some form or another. I just hope i'm no spider... i HATE spiders.

PS: since neither of us has proofs, rather suppositions, it is best to assume the worse, and then anything that happens will be far better than our expectations.


Now really speaking, would you rather be a ghost, able just to look at your ... say wife/husband get married again, and all that, or going mad in pain, or just simply wake up in a new body?

Besides, although there are some memories i would LOVE to keep, it would just be tooooooooooooo painful for me to remember the ones i love.

JEEEEZ this is getting too serious. Somebody 69 with me before i say anything else on the phylosophycal issue...
;)

Okay, you got me....I'll admit it...I am sitting in my house in the middle of the boonies, all alone at 3 in the morning and was looking my ass off for a pretty little woman sitting at a table.....and BOOM! I scream and wake up the baby and I think I'm having a stroke right now....thank you very much.:whiteghos

I'll leave you alone to argue with yourself which is all you're doing. You've contradicted yourself on every point except #8 which I agree 110% with you on.


i really don't believe in ghosts. The deffinition of ghost is an absurity in itself, a physical imposibility.

2] ghosts and religion cannot be both true at the same time.
(how do you figure that? )

3] in order to see/hear/smell/talk, a ghost would need eyes/ears/nose/mouth+lungs+vocal cords. Having neither, it is the invisible equivalent of a vegetable.
(so a CCD can't "see" because it has no eyes? ...Nobody as BLIND as some one with closed eyes and mind)

4] i do not believe in religion either. .... entire christian doctrine is based on false assumptions.
(what about all the other ones? They're ALL wrong and you're right.)


5] ghosts are supposed to be the souls of the dead, BUT, when someone dies, his/her memory is VANISHED
(i really don't think this is our only existence) (besides, i am immortal)

6] a 'form of energy' shoul be extremly powerfull, and would be struck down at the first lightning in a 20 mile area.
(geez I never thought of that. Have you worked out how many joules it would take to attract a bolt of lightening...or a ghost for that matter?)

7] 'santa claus' EXISTS

8] i can safely say i am nuts. and i love it.

nice to cut out just what you want , don't you think?

Xplenations

3] can a blind man see? what makes you think he will be able to when he is a ghost? why would ghosts NEED to see? Hear? you need a 'receiver' able to isolate frequencyes between 50 and 50000 Hz. Without a proper ear, you would hear either nothing or everything, and with the amount of radio noise, that would be a real bitch.

4] every one of them has another theory on how the world was formed. This means if ONE is correct, all the others are NOT.
AND, all of them were created by humans, in order to explain things that they could not at that time, and to give them a sence (!) of security [self-awareness is a bitch, means to be aware of your own death]. I have looked in 4 religions (christianism, buddhism, 'allah-ism' and mythology, and have found some amazingly stupid fundaments in all of them.
just for the 'god' thing :
-god created the world in 6 days. i would say 5 billion years
-you shall not kill. well, since god created _everything_ this also means you shall not kill that cow / pig you ate the meat of. Who are you to decide that hundreds of animals -creation of god mid you- will be sacriiced to support one single HUMAN life ?
((really not necesary to continue... i gues you see my poin if you are that open-minded))


5] just said my life will go on, not the essence of me [ego & memories & stuff]. Based on the simple fact that the life-force cannot just vanish, it will be in 'stasis' untill it will be able to connect to another form of matter.

6] the exact amount of joules that would remotely lift a plate with pizza from the table and ditch it in your head.

7] do read the whole paragraph....

8] if billions of people think they are so important in this HUUGE universe that someone with the powers of a god would care that they had a fight in the 9th grade or that they draw the cross from left to right or the other way arroud, and i choose not to, i have to be nuts. don't i? i would hate living with a billion nuts on a planet.

PS: the proof of time prevents me to believe these things. and if i'm wrong, who the heck will care?

Sounds like a good definition of a ghost to me... hehe But I digress...

And could someone get back to me on which would work better, the condom or the plastic sheet? LOL

~~Munk~~

Munk... my guess would be a condom :) The glow in the dark variety. :) LOL

LMAO Jenna - I can't figure out what makes me laugh more... the mental image of a semi-litup penis seemingly floating through a pitch black room....

or that being the next item in the scavenger hunt on the couples thread LOL

~~Munk~~

LMAO Mr.3G..........................Cant wait to send it out to some friends of mine.

It's not in my interests to believe in Ghosts. Hell I got hard enough time with the Living.

To cut back to the serious stuff for a moment here guys. The two of you are getting so hung up on all the nitty gritty details.

I'm not going to go through each point in turn, but you both seem to be thinking in straight lines rather than wide circles.

For example, why the hell would a ghost need to see and hear and smell, anyway? All these things are the tools we use to perceive reality, but what if once you've crossed over you do not need to perceive anymore because you just KNOW. If you are some kind of ethereal being, your ability to tell whether your toast is burning is really not gonna be an issue of every day life.

I think Thun's probably kicking back against a very rigid view of religion and the metaphysical, which is possibly built on a fear mentality. I've been wrong before, and i know he won't admit it anyway but I sense a little resentment here . . .

On a lighter note, why on earth would you use any kind of contraception with a ghost anyway. That stuff's not sperm, it's ectoplasm!!!!!!!!!

First off, that scared the crap out of me.
What do ghosts think they're trying to prove? There was a special on TV about a house in France built on a World War I battleground that reported paranormal activity.
Ghost of a soldier: "How dare you build your home where my brothers lived and died in bloody, mud soaked trenches! How could you!? I'm so mad!! I'll make you sorry!!"
*moves a teacup two inches*

DildoDiva, my apologies. Like I said, some sick f*** sent it to me (and I lost my wife last year) and I couldn't help myself. As the song sez, I dun a baaad baaad thing. I hope it was only a minor stroke. Pass it on. It's cathartic.

AK's, I'm being sacrsactic whereas my distinguished opponent has figured things out down to the exact megaherz and kilo-joules of a "ghost" hence proving that there aren't any ... or there are ... I'm as unsure of what he's trying to state as he is.:whiteghos ;)

A.K.'s SexPot - Ummm.... that was brought about in humor... you know, to try and lighten things up... my apologies :)

Now off to places that arent so damn cynical!!! (sp)

Nice meeting everyone here... it's been fun :)

~~Munk~~

ectoplasm.. ROFLMAO... now that is funny ;)

I forgive you THIS time Mr. 3G. I only had to step my zanex to 5000 milligrams a day now and the stroke was minor. I only lost the use of the right side of my body. Luckily I'm left handed.

I've encountered some strange things like.

Footsteps in empty houses, rooms, and wharehouses.
Cold spots.
Far-off sounding voices.
Strange shaddows.

I've been a few places where I look at the house, place, whatever
and my feet stop moving, I get filled with an overpowering sense of dread and will not enter.
Sometimes, I've been a few places where my radar must've not been working.

Several family members have seen spooks, including my mom, granny, and an uncle.

Never have seen one myself but have felt a "Presence".

How about this photo a bird watcher sent to me, he took it in a cemetery.

Cold spots, If you can sense this then you are more in tune then most. Feeling a presence is not something that everyone can do. This is a subject that always brings on great debate, But I will always vote yes on this issue.
If anyone is interested in a long, but true story of the 2 ghosts that I lived with for a year, send me a p.m. The story has a happy ending, even for the ghosts.

ants can sense cold spots.....if you put them in the microwave and turn it on, they'll run to the cold spots

don't ask me, it's just something i heard

Now you will believe in ghost ledgend - cause im going to haunt you..along with my ants

I think that you are correct on that one Legend, you can do the same with a griddle over a camp fire, but soon all the spots are hot. "when your hot, your HOT!"

Help me out here.
 

Not trying to pick:confused:, but the ambient surface temperature in a micro-wave oven doesn’t change. It’s only the water molecules that are excited and they would all be inside the ant. I would expect any movement to be only from instinctual escape efforts:redghost:.

How was the “cold spots” on the griddle monitored? The thermal shifts would be so sudden, especial with such an un-concentrated heat source as a camp fire.

I guess I need to watch Ghost Busters again.:rolleyes:

How else would you monitor a griddle to see if hot when you are camping???? Ya spit on it:p:p When the spit evaporates it is safe to cook.......:D:D:p <jk>

It’s the bounce!
 

It’s when you spit on it and it bounces. Just like when you check your iron:D.

Or:
You could attach a number of thermisters, with individual time stamp read outs, in different geometric patters. (on both sides to compare both source fluxion and thermal conductivity differentials):rolleyes:

Or:
You could use the nose of the person who would put ants on a hot griddle.:eek:

ghostweb
 

for those interested, visit ghostweb - a great site if you are looking for ghosts!:eek: