To circumsize or not to circumsize...that is the question...

[Clint]

I was circumsized when I was born, and I have never regretted having it done. But my best friend was not cut when he was born and he is seriously considering having it done. He seems to be wanting to do it for the wrong reasons. Such as his girlfriend. She told him that she wouldn't sleep with him again if he didn't get it cut. I could really use some words of wisdom to relay to my buddy. Thanks you guys!

~~~~~~Clint~~~~~~~

[Mistrality]

Well, I can't speak to the female's perspective, but I have read that having sex with men with uncircumstized penises does raise the risk of cervical cancer, because it is caused by a virus or bacteria that can breed in an uncircumsized environment.

Also, check the posts, because I think I recall a post by a guy who was recently circumcized...you might have your friend contact that guy.

Good luck.

[Iam2evil]

well Clint, my words of wisdom for your friend is this...he shouldnt have to put himself through physical pain just to please his girlfriend,at the adult age, the risks associated with circumsion are fairly high, and he should only consider chancing it if its what HE wants. there is nothing wrong with being "uncut" its perfectly normal, and perhaps he should ask his girlfriend how she would feel if he told her he wouldnt sleep with her until she had her clitoris circumsised......after all whats good for the goose is good for the gander

[Lilith]

DUMP THE BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D

[Harley Q]

I agree that threatening to not sleep with a man because he's uncut is a terrible, horrible and just plain mean thing to do. I would never ask my man to do such a thing. Then again, I've had basically no experience with an uncut gentleman, and I chalk that up to the luck of the draw--but that's beside the point.
Clint, darlin' I say that if your buddy's woman is that petty, he deserves better. Here's to hoping he sees that, and that goes for all the other uncut fellas who've had second thoughts.

[axe31]

unless for medical reasons there is no reason to be
circumcized; soThe perception that foreskin is unhygienic is a myth, says George C. Denniston, M.D., president of the Seattle-based Doctors Opposing Circumcision. "Foreskin protects against disease; it doesn't cause disease. If foreskin is unhygienic, eyelids should be considered unhygienic."

The procedure is even being questioned among some non-Orthodox Jewish parents who are departing from the traditional bris -- the ceremony of circumcision that initiates a baby into a covenant with God. Instead, they turn to Jewish laws that forbid inflicting pain to any living thing.

A 1989 AAP policy statement recognized the pain and trauma caused by the procedure and attendant behavioral changes among the young patients. Still, circumcision is the only surgery in America routinely performed without anesthesia. The AAP now recommends analgesic cream or shots of local anesthetic
.facts.
and i agree with lilith dump her

[Oldfart]

Get him to talk to his Doctor about it.

There are conflicting schools of thought and he needs

to know the facts.

[Casperr]

Oldfart's right - there are conflicting schools of thought about it from a medical point of view. Just as there are women who like cut dicks and uncut dicks, long ones and thin ones and who knows probably bright purple ones.
Your friend's concern should not be whether or not he'll get laid by chopping off his foreskin - but whether or not he wants to undergo a surgical procedure that isn't necessary.
It all stems down to one issue - he isn't happy with his body. Why not? And is circumcision going to fix that? I don't think so.
And he needs to ask himself - how's he going to feel if this relationship he's in now falls through for other reasons, and his next girlfriend tells him she absolutely LOVES uncut men??? What's he gonna do, stick it back on???
I think he needs to work this out with his girlfriend, and if she still insists he gets cut, well maybe then I agree with lilith - she's not worth it.
My 2c!
CasperTG

[big_yin]

Well Clint, there isn't much to be added to the thoughts and feelings above. All I can say is that having several medical people in my family, they have all said that there is no medical problems related to retaining the foreskin. So I would say, hey you were born with it, so God reckoned it was good for somethin'!

Also, I`ve got one, i thought about gettin it removed then thought again, and I ain't had no complaints! (In fact the opposite has been the case!)

[legend]

Originally posted by Lilith
DUMP THE BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D

[Ste]

I was circumsized as a kid, for medical reasons, and as yet have had no sexual partners (not that old either, so long road ahead). I have a clear (to see, not transparent) 'ring' of scar tissue (including stitch 'holes') arround the end of my penis, where the foreskin would have been attached, is this common or was I given a botched job as I knew no better at the time?

I guess this is aimed at those who are also circumsized, or women who have seen many circumsized men.

Thanks, ste

[legend]

Well years ago surgery wasn't advanced as today and generally when you went under the knife, you received a noticeable scar. Although I am not circumcised, I had a appendectomy and I have a noticeable scar, complete with dots where the staples were.

[Steph]

My guy isn't circumcized and I love it! I don't know why he escaped the knife (it's not something I plan to ask his mother over tea!) but I'm certainly not complaining.

My question is: once your buddy goes under the knife, what will this pushy woman want him to do next???

[Clint]

I really appreciate all of the advice that you guys have given. I am forwarding all of the comments to my friend and I am sure that he will appreciate them as well. I will keep you guys posted on what's going on.

[andrew]

Agree with Lilith 100% Dump the bitch - she likes as he is or it is not worth it. Do not change unless there is a good medical reason. A foreskin is not one.

Find a more tolerant lover or at least one who likes him the way he is.

Andrew

[Grumble]

I am totally against circumcision for other than for a proper medical reason. It has a purpose and by conducting proper standards of personal hygeine there is no problem at all.

I wonder if anyone advocating this procedure on newly born children have ever watched it? I have and it is not very nice and no one can tell me it is not painful.

I agree with the others, this woman is manipulative and not concerned with your friends welfare.

[belenos]

I am not circumcised, and do not wish to be. When I was younger I didn't even know that penises didn't all have the foreskin, my father wasn't trimmed either.

The foreskin is a normal, natural part of the male sexual organs and is full of super-sensitive nerve endings. Unless your friend has phismosis or some other medical condition that necessitates circumcision I would advise him, highly, against doing it.

If his girlriend was with him because she cared about him she wouldn't ask him to part with such a pleasurable part of his anatomy. If he gets circumcised why not cut off her nipples and clitoral hood? It'd be about the same thing.

[Steph]

Hi, Clint

Do you have an update on the situation for us?

[Clint]

Okay, after forwarding all of the advice to my friend, he really took to heart what all of you guys were saying. He confronted his girlfriend about it and told her that he would never make her do anything to change and that he liked her just the way she was. She came back with a line that is soooooooooooo old.........."If you really loved me, you'd do it."
So, right after she said that, he finally realized what a bitch she was and dumped her :D He is not a member of Pixies, but told me to tell all of you wonderful people thank you for your concern and your advice.

Love Ya'll,

Clint

[logchuck]

I am uncut and very happy I am. I have never had any problems
or concerns. I love to have my skin pulled back and let my purple head throb

[Casperr]

ClintX3X3,
Great to hear that your friend took all our advice. To use emotional blackmail like that - "if you loved me you would" - is just plain low.
Hope your friend finds happiness with someone who can love him for who he is, and not for the presence of absence of a tiny piece of skin!

CasperTG

[Steph]

Thanks for the update, Clint!! I'm very happy with your friend's decision! He's very welcome for our concern :)

[fooie]

Recent studies indicate that circumcision may play a significant role in the prevention of the spread of the HIV virus. It was noticed that villages in Africa where the males are circumcised had much lower rates of HIV infection than similar villages where circumcision is not practiced. It is believed that the tissue on the inside of the foreskin is highly permeable to the virus. Nonetheless I would dump the bitch.

[BrassEagle]

www.the-penis.com has alot of information on the whole ordeal.

I think its wrong to cut a child in about 98% of the cases because alot of the medical reasons can be fixed in other ways. I was cut because the forskin was too tight. this did not have to be done because skin can easily and safely be stretched. Luckily, the doctor who cut me didnt fully circumsize me which means I still have a forskin, just not a full one.

[katekate42]

I agree with Lilith. Fuck a bunch of that- having a circumcision simply because a woman wants you to is the same as a guy telling a woman to get breast implants or some other type of invasive surgery. If he's been happy with his sexuality for all these years and is only now considering it, tell him to break up with this joker and find someone who will respect his body. I think that is a much more important issue here than whether or not a guy is cut or uncut. My boyfriend was circumcised at birth and doesn't seem to have any adverse effects from it, however what's good for someone isn't necessarily good forall- I've heard the opposite side of the debate which says that losing part of the penis impacted their sexual pleasure and they had a foreskin reattached. Meanwhile, tell him to ditch the bitch :)

[ericthered]

There are only three significant bodies of opinion supporting circumcision - the Muslim faith, the Jewish faith and the AMA. I understand the motive of the last lot - money! The other two seem to believe that God made a mistake or something.....