language barrier

[axe31]

i know we all use english here but there are some
words that are different
a fag; is a cigarette
faggot; is a large meat ball
a rubber; is for eraseing pencil lines
these are the ones i know are there any others:confused:

[PantyFanatic]

SUSPENDERS are for holding a mans trousers up,:cool:
GARTERBELTS (or me:p ) are for holding up ladies silk stockings.:D

[MilkToast]

one of the funniest things I have heard at work was when our new manager explained that one of the engineers was not present at the meeting because "he stepped outside to pinch a fag"... the poor guy bumming the cigarette off his co-workers was in for some really interesting looks upon arriving a few minutes later.

[scotzoidman]

I believe it was G.B. Shaw who said, "England & America are two great countries divided by a common language."
Can't remember the name of the guy, British singer, on his 1st visit to NYC, got on an elevator, pulled out a cigarette, and asked the other person, "Mind if I light up a fag on the lift?"
...got a very strange look...

[Reverend Silky]

"Americans say 'erb', and we say 'herb', because there's a fucking H in it."

[Grumble]

well the pronounciation of oregeno usually confuses me watching american shows

they pronounce it or-egg-eno and it is pronounced or-ee-garno here and how does alu min ium become al oo minum ?????

or a water tap a fawcett. A roundabout on a road a circle drive?
(If you want to drive in circles go to Canberra, Australias National Capital our Washington DC, it is so bloody round you get dizzy LOL)

one things that cracks the brits up when they come to australia is what is sometimes called durex in Australia (sticky tape) apparently durex is a common term for condom in Britain

[legend]

the bathroom is where you go to have a shower or bath. damned if I'll have anyone taking a leak in my bathroom!

[Murphy]

how 'bout "color" and "colour"

or what we call TV, you call the telly
Panties are knickers

[Lilith]

favorite...favourite



While we are at what do you call your meals?

here we have.......

Breakfast
Lunch
Dinner or Supper

plus snacks :D:D

[axe31]

lilith
breakfast
dinner
tea
altou this is because iam not posh
and that i live in manchester

[PantyFanatic]

:confused: Oh the denigration of the colonists. :rolleyes:

[A.K.'s Sex-Pot]

We "Posh" brits eat

Breakfast
Lunch
Tea
Dinner

Tea being, as the song goes "a drink with jam and bread" or rather cucumber sandwiches with the craust cut off!!

I suppose really posh people, have Luncheon, not lunch, but who'd want to be THAT posh?!


As for panties/ knickers. I just say G-string, baby!!!

[Sugarsprinkles]

How about ass and arse????

Where did the "r" come from??

[love_2licku]

I think "arse" came about because some sites filter out "ass" Just like on some sites or chats I used "secks" for "sex" or "phuck" for "fuck" LOL List goes on and on and on.

meals for me are either:
breakfast/brunch
lunch
sex
dinner

Sex has been missing from the menu for quite a while LOL.

A lot of commonly mistaken words could be "restroom", "water closet" and as stated "bathroom". To some, a restroom is somewhere like a lounge of sorts...a place to go rest. I have no clue why some calls the pisser a water closet though lol. I call it bathroom or toilet. A friend called it water closet in Germany and the lady gave him a weird look :) Was funny as hell LOL

Another is the word "pissed". Being american, this means angry to me. Say it in England and they think you mean drunk off yer ass. More England words... bisquit which is a cookie to us 'mericans. And I think their cookie is our bisquits lol. I have a british female friend, I swear, I think she makes up words as she goes roflmao!

[dicksbro]

If between breakfast and lunch you have "brunch" ...

Between lunch and supper do you have "lupper?" :D:D

[love_2licku]

yup LOL

[dicksbro]

Is it in England that the term "loo" is used for bathroom?

[love_2licku]

Yeppers, you got it :)

[lixnlix69]

OMG....Now ya got me started!

Not only do I live in America...the land where the language is so screwed up that the Brits are confused and iffin you want to learn the language you have to be born somewhere else cause we (Americans) still don't understand all the slang............but.........I also reside in Pa. Dutch country..........bear with me here.....I am gonna try and explain!

In Pennsylvania Dutch country they make a statement such as......"Throw the cow over the fence.........some hay". I am assuming they want me to pick up the friggin cow and throw her over the fence on some hay...right?

OR..........

"Throw momma down the steps..........her purse"....Self explainitory, right?

Or..........

What does....."Yamma yea fadump" mean? I mean....I can barely hang on to the friggin cow and now you wanna dump it????? Dump her where??? What the hell is Yamma Yea???????

OK....If you can beat this in the language barrier category...I bow to you! And don't think this is the end of Pa. Dutch language......their questions are more like statements!!!!.....IE: Going to the store.= Are you going to the store? Coming with.= Are you coming with me?....I could go on and on .....as is the "Original Jersey Girl" in me.....but I yeild the floor to the next language problematic person!!!!!!

Mrs. Lix

[legend]

love_2licku - i'm pretty sure it's a biscuit (as opposed to bisquit).

come to Australia, then you'll learn that some things we say mean the opposite to what it sounds like we're saying. hehe, we just like to confuse poor Americans.

[A.K.'s Sex-Pot]

Can i clarify the r in arse question?

It is nothing to do with what is permissible on certain sites. We have always spelt it like that. And that is because we pronounce it like that. Arse is a bottom - ass is a donkey!!!!!!

Biscuits are in deed what our Atlantic cousins call cookies, but i think what you lot call biscuits we call scones. However the word biscuits comes from the french meaning "cooked twice" - because apparently that's what you do with proper biscuits (never made anything other than cookies myself - you see we have those too!)

And i hate to get technical on you all, but as for making words up as we go along - i think you'll find that the Americans are the ones who do that!!! After all, it's called English, not American isn't it??!! Lol.

Vive la difference! That's what i say!:yellghst:

[Lilith]

Oh I completely agree.....American ingenuity is alive and well. I think that by far, our language evolves more than any other. We basically speak different regional languages within our borders as well. example........ You - you all - ya'll - yous

The only twice baked cookie I make is biscotti, chocolate almond...So damn yummy!!!!

I am so glad we all are so different....we have so much to learn from eachother.....

oh and here a shag is an ugly carpet where in the UK it is down right yummy:D:D:p So basically we could shag on the shag;)

[Grumble]

Australians having evolved from a british colony use a lot of the same expressions. A bum is an arse not an ass which is a donkey.

We have biscuits not cookies and call what north americans term candy, lollies or sweets. We call petroleum or gasolene, petrol not gas, we use the term gas for gaseous substances such as LPG (propane).

Its amazing how these differences have evolved. The term pissed in Australia means drunk not annoyed. If you are pissed off you are annoyed and if you have pissed off means you have left. How bloody confusing he he. American spelling has taken the letter u out of words like colour and honour.

The other thing that comes to mind is the last letter of the alphabet. English/Australian pronounciation is Zed. American is Zee. With kids seeing Sesame Street before going to school there is a bit of trouble getting the kids to conform to our pronounciation.

It is interesting and I agree - viva le differance !!!!

[GermanSteve]

Can anybody of the americans give me advice how that works with million, billion, milliard and these other huge numbers? I always wonder where you have learned counting, aren´t your ancestors europeans?
European counting:
thousand million milliard billion billiard trillion trilliard.
Now you!

[Reverend Silky]

we use billiard. ask Minnesota Fats.

[lixnlix69]

Stop That Rev!!!!!!!!....Steve is being serous, damn it!.....LOL!

Steve..............ones, tens, hundreds, thousands, millions, billions, trillions.......and after that......Bill Gates!!!!!.......A money monger with a fortune more than a body has a right to! Oops.....another 10 seconds......Bill just made several million!

Mrs. Lix

[GermanSteve]

Hehehe! ;)

[Reverend Silky]

Bill Gates is to money what Wayne Newton is to raw sex appeal-- they've both got a dangerous amount of it.

[scotzoidman]

I always assumed that "arse" became "ass" from the Brit tendancy to soften the "r", which of course New Englanders still do...when the rest of America quit doing that, somehow the memory of hearing it pronounced "ahss" combined with seldom seeing it written led to confusing is with the term for a donkey...well, that's my idea, anyway, I can't prove it right, But you can't prove I'm wrong, either...

Mrs Lix, I know what you mean about the PA Dutch...used to know some guys from PA (German extaction) ...once one of them expressed surprise that down here we say, "push the door to," something he thought only the Dutch said...also had an ashtray w/ the words, "outen the smoke"...

[dice45]

... billion billiard trillion ...
LOL, GermanSteve, this was an invitation!
Would the Reverend not have taken it already, i couldn't have resisted to it,
melikes playing Billard with language, too! :)

(Serious now) British, Australian, NewZ folks, how is the proper wording for 10^6 (million),10^9, 10^12, 10^15, 10^18, 10^21, 10^24, etc.? I know American call 10^9 a billion, 10^12 and a trillion, but i have no idea how the British for example call it.

Length dimension units: 1 mil seems to a 1/1000 of an inch whereas 1 micron seems to be 1/1000 of a millimeter. Confusing. Well, don't ask engineer Bernhard about American style how to dimension components, tap pitch, gear pitch, whatever. Confusing.

In Germany it is meanwhile almost standard to have English skills, atleast basic level. Nevertheless the language barrier is high, a German person with good English skills often can judge from the choice of words and the weird, all too familiar looking grammar that the originator of those lines is "a bloody German". Mrs.Lix, to me the grammar of the examples from Dutch PA you posted looks very familiar, Dutch grammar and sentence contruction obvioulsy is very similar to German one.

Moreover, quite some terms exist completely ununderstable to native speakers.There are a few terms i hesitate to use as i have received blank stares from native speakers, using them. Do you know what a "handy" is? a mobile phone, a cell(ular) phone. And what is an "outing"? I am not sure what this term meaning in English; in German it is used as noun and as transitive verb and means that one person volunteers another person's slippery secrets, e.g. being homosexual or BDSM-oriented drug-addicted or being a snitch or whatever; part of the game is that either the pubilc or the "outed" person or both have not agreed to the "outing" and are ...hmmh... not particularly happy with it. The "outing" person however does not care. Of course, the person can "out" him/herself, again, not caring whether the others want to hear it.

native speakers,
Q1: How is this sort of behaviour called in English?
Q2: what other English terms were not understandable to you (from Dutch, German, Finnish, Japanese people etc., list is incomplete)? as i would like to add them to my list.

[Bilbo]

Originally posted by Sugarsprinkles
How about ass and arse????

Where did the "r" come from??


I had always been told that an "ass" was some kind of second grade donkey,

and an "Arse" is something the toothless one speaks from with very bad breath,

but then again how do you get "Fanny " to relate to the same meaning as "Arse" ?

[Bilbo]

dice 45

with the 1 mil, it is 1/1000 of a metre not an inch, unless your talking fluid, which it is then 1/1000 of a litre

but your right with the 1 micron

[lixnlix69]

LOL scotz.....The Pa. Dutch outen the lite............and if you have your picture taken and it is a good shot........they say "The photo got good".........omggggg..........Someone take me away from all of this!!!!

When a storm is coming over the mountains....."Well now...looks like we are in fer a dunner wedder".

I am told that this is a slang form of "High German" and the Schwenkfelders and Mennonites have bastardized it so that the dialect differs as you get further and further north or west. Which means to me that the Pa. Dutch can't even understand each other depending on where they are from! ROFLMAO! And imagine the poor Amish. They must go nuts trying to communicate with the Pa. Dutch!

Yamma Yea Faddump.........I am still working on that one! LOL!!

Mrs. Lix

[MilkToast]

Originally posted by Bilbo
dice 45

with the 1 mil, it is 1/1000 of a metre not an inch, unless your talking fluid, which it is then 1/1000 of a litre

but your right with the 1 micron

Bilbo,
actually in the US 1 mil = .001 inches

we also use millimeter for 1/1000 of a meter (notice that even the spelling of that unit of measure varies) as most other places... but in the States, when you say "one mil" you get "1/1000th of an inch".

[Reverend Silky]

"tis a fine barn, english, but tis no pool."

"d'oh-eth!"

[PantyFanatic]

And some of our differences are very funny and interesting too.
My VERY limited understanding of my native and sole language is that it’s one of the few that arranges the verb and subjects in the order we do. I have to defer this topic to one of our wizard (black magic:confused: ) linguists like SugarFreeCandy for any reliable information.

I can share my limited insight with GermanSteve & Dice45 regarding the “names” of numbers. My grasp of the past is that it is not an American / European difference, but a German AND Great Britain / French AND American usage of the “names” of numeric magnitude. We all know and accept that language is a convention and illogical evolution of human verbal sounds. Fortunately mathematics isn’t:D .
Now we Americans should have some sort of award for STUPID CHOICES:o as we did decide to use the French verbal notation (instead of their METRIC SYSTEM of functional, quantifying measurements that the whole frigging planet uses, instead of the dysfunctional, cumbersome, senseless system that even the inventors have all but discarded!! (do I have a prejudice:mad:)).

As this forum does not lend itself to exponentual notation I want to thank Dice45 for his inventiveness. [and I will be happy to share the back-assward way we state thread pitches if you care to PM me]

So here’s what little I know:rolleyes: -
We seem to all be together on ones, tens, hundreds etc., up to millions, ten to the sixth power (10^6). After this, it becomes a “pick-a-name-out-your-ass-contest”. For G&GB it’s (10^9)=milliard, (10^12)=billion, (10^15)=billiard, (10^18)=trillion, (10^21)=trilliard. Now for us dumb-shit F&A it’s (10^9)=billion, (10^12)=trillion! That’s it:whiteghos! That’s all we officially have! We do use the arbitrary term “zillion” and “quadzillion” (?4?) to indicate a whole shit pot full, but it really has no known or agreed value. So there!

Now would one of our sweet Pixieites let me up under her skirt to that silky wet spot before I go nuts thinking about this stuff?:p

[scotzoidman]

Originally posted by pantyfanatic
Now we Americans should have some sort of award for STUPID CHOICES:o as we did decide to use the French verbal notation (instead of their METRIC SYSTEM of functional, quantifying measurements that the whole frigging planet uses, instead of the dysfunctional, cumbersome, senseless system that even the inventors have all but discarded!! (do I have a prejudice:mad:)).
What's the problem with our system, PF? All it did was cost NASA a multi-million $ Mars lander, & embarrass US in front of the whole world...

[PantyFanatic]

Originally posted by scotzoidman
What's the problem with our system, PF? All it did was cost NASA a multi-million $ Mars lander, & embarrass US in front of the whole world...
That doesn’t even count!
What we spend in calculations, conversions and errors E V E R Y D A Y could pay off the national debt in two years.:(



Ask me sometime about the WHOLE worlds “address” system and what it costs every hour of everyday:mad: !

(Irish, OldFart, will somebody take this soapbox away? …………… PLEASE!):rolleyes:

[legend]

well since they seem to not want to use the SI units, I think it's NASA's own dumb fault for the wasted money and embarrassments

[Oldfart]

Legend, don't pound in the message.

Lixnlix69, think of the German "Donnerwetter".

As Bilbo said, a Fanny in the US is a bum, with us it's a Vagina.

Ass has it's derivation, I think, in the puritanic 1890's.

PF, you hired the box for a week, you're stuck with it.

[PantyFanatic]

that I find that system FAR superior to anything commonly used here and totally agree with you. Standards International is just what it says and when the shortsighted, ignorant, egotistical bureaucrats and moguls that run this country get their heads out of their ass, it may change.:mad: [FAT CHANCE]
The only thing they saw in 1970 was that it was politically unpopular (only because of being unfamiliar), and would cost a few dollars from the top of their piles, when it was legislated and passed that the US WOULD adapt the metric system.:rolleyes: They couldn’t see past the complacent heaps to note the hole in the bottom of their pockets that was being created. This attitude did become apparent from the other end as the global evolution enveloped our industrial might.:redghost:
Had this happened, today an inch, a quart (?is that dry measure or wet?) and a 16 ounce pound :confused: would be a curiosity like the spittoon.
As long as they squeeze their dollars until George shits in their pocket, they deserve what they get and somebody else WILL eat their lunch.:eek:

[Grumble]

Australia used to have the old british system of measurement. In my life time I have been through currency change from pounds shilling and pence to the decimal system of dollars and cents. It is a whole lot easier doing things in 10's than 12's.

Then we went from imperial measurements to metric. It is hard getting your head around it at first but it is so much easier to measure something like 355mm than say 1 foot 5 and 3/16ths of an inch. There is a significant cost factor to it and that is why the US baulked at it I think. But now they are out of step with the rest of the world. Canada is metric maybe they are not as backward as the country south of them reckons. :)

The farenhieght scale for temperature is so bloody ridiculous. Fancy starting at 32 for freezing point and having 212 for boiling point. The celsius scale of 0 for freezing and 100 for boiling (point of water ) is much more logical.

Talking of a mixture, I once worked on Italian Macchi Jet trainers which were powered by a Bristol Siddley Viper engine of british manufacure. All the airfame nuts bolts and screws were metric and the engine had british threads and imperial measure nuts and bolts. Of course america has its own thread system and never the twain shall meet lol. But the most interesting thing was the Macchi maintenance manual. It was orginally produced in Italian of course and the engine manual was in english but got translated into Italian. when Australia bought the Macchi the manuals all got translated to English. The engine manual was a pretty funny book as it was translated from english to Italian and then back to English. We eventually got the originals from Bristol Siddley and it was very funny comparing them.

I did see something about an 'Outing' in an earlier post. To me that means going out somewhere for a picnic or a day in the country. To be outed is to be declared a homosexual publicly.
English is such a strange lanuage and with americans, Canadians, Australians and the like stuffing around with it, it makes it even more strange LOL.

Keep the differences coming in, I am enjoying this thread.

[legend]

a few more i remember: tyre/tire cheque/check boot/trunk

[Eros]

Hmmm...you want dialect?...LOL... Don't make me get out the Redneck/English dictionary...

[sugarfreecandy]

Hmm.

Speaking as a Canuck...

I totally agree that Metric makes more sense than Imperial, and I can't for the life of me do calculations beyond the most basic in Imperial.

That said... Things here aren't all that clear-cut.

I couldn't tell you how much I weigh or how tall I am in Metric (even if I were willing to divulge that top-secret information :D) --- I've always been measured in feet and inches and pounds. I cook in cups and teaspoons and tablespoons, at Fahrenheit temperatures --- but have no clue about pints and quarts (except when it comes to beer and berries, respectively). I measure the temperature outside in Celsius degrees; I drive distances measured in kilometres; I know my own weight in pounds but weigh my cat and dog in Metric... For tangible distances, I'm equally at home with inches or centimetres, but if it's less than a finger-width in size or more than a half-dozen paces, I have to measure in Metric. Confused yet? :confused: (I am!)

Now let's bring in the language issue. I lived in the South-West of England for a year when I was younger, and made the mistake once of asking a friend "Should I wear this vest with these pants?" --- those of you in North America know that I was talking about a sleeveless garment that buttons over a shirt, and an ankle-length two-legged garment. However, to my friend in Somerset, I had just asked if I ought to wear a particular undershirt with a particular pair of underwear... (NOT a mistake I made again in a hurry!! :o)

That's just the most glaring (and most embarrassing!!) example. There were a huge number of differences, mostly minor, but some more major. Another example that I STILL get teased about is a little difference that I somehow brought back with me when I came back to Canada: I say, as my English friends do, that "I'm meant to do this" meaning that I'm supposed to do it --- my friends here think that I'm speaking in the sense of ultimate destiny when I talk like that, whereas I really only mean to say that it's an assignment for school or work...

We Canucks have our own weird linguistic goings-on too, eh? Check this out: it's a Canadian glossary (http://hcs.harvard.edu/~hgscc/glossary.htm)... And I'd just like to take this opportunity to point out that we in Canada do NOT say "oot" or "hoos" (for "out" and "house") --- it's just that Americans say "awt" and "haws"! :D

Gee, I'm sorry, PF, I seem to have stolen that soap-box from you, and right after you'd paid for the rental too... :rolleyes: Maybe if I hike up my skirt a little while I stand up here pontificating, you'll forgive me? ;) :p

--- sweetstuff (who has obviously not posted at Pixies' in far too long and is now in the throes of absolute Pixtasy form suddenly making such a lengthy post... Ahhhh, that feels goooood! :o)

[dice45]

All,

there are 3 1/2 countries left in the world still using the inch system ... the half one is obvious, it is GB, (they are fervently trying every other day and succeeding better and better) then there is Birma, and Burundi still using it, but, (help me, folks) cannot remember which the 3rd country was ..... which was it, can you help me?

(sorry, could not resist :) )

Was quite amusing to me observing Americans sounding off about their own measuring standards, and, yes, to me too it appears as hmmh...a bit unbalanced (nice euphemism, Bernhard!). I've got no serious with problems with US feet and inches. But there are other things ... Why the heck did they let vinyl records start from the outer groove? Gear pitch is count of teeth per inch, about same is tap pitch. Completely weird to me :( . How do they intend to measure pitch then, a sliding caliper having no counter and hence being useless. And why do they measure wire thickness by the weight of a miles-long snippet of wire, which, put on a spool is too heavy for 2 men to lift? And the sliding caliper still being useless, having no built-in heavy weight gauge? Or was it that they measure the mileage of a given weight of wire, the sliding caliper then having no length counter???

US folks, relax, we Germans too have utterly stupid technical standards, if i think of it, every 2nd or 3rd DIN standard is Selbstzweck (probably best translated as: end in itself, a purpose being its own purpose, its own justification)

pantyfanatic,
this 10^9 notion is quite usual on technical forums as well as other strings describing mathematical functions like sqrt(x) or exp(x) . What amazes me are those folks drawing electronic circuits using ASCII characters only (only readable wih a constant width font :) )

[PantyFanatic]

This may have been the wrong subject to enforce your NO EARLY RETURN clause on.:D

…and respond on I will!;)

Grumbleguts-
...Canada is metric maybe they are not as backward as the country south of them reckons...The engine manual was a pretty funny book as it was translated from english to Italian and then back to English.
I can paddle a canoe (or could 20 years ago) to the borders, but can truthfully say that the feelings of all the Americans I have ever known is one of honest fondness and respect for our Canadian brothers (and especially the sisters :p). The only backward consideration for a Canadian I have is while looking up the skirt of the pontificator on my soapbox. Our SugerFreeCandy makes it sound as though they are having a time of kicking the crap off their boots as well. But they are at least trying! [piss me off No.1, -10 points] WE’RE NOT!

Your engine manual must have been like reading the Rosetta Stone or playing the old Telegraph game where each person repeats a sentence down the line until it has no resemblance to the original.

Aeros731-
A least your Redneck/English dialect is your own evolved folly. [PMO No.2, -10 points] WE ADOPTED THIS STUPID SYSTEM FROM SOMEBODY ELSE IN AN OFFICIAL ACT OF THE US CONGRESS, even after we knew of the far better system.


And so you all know that I am using OldFarts SOAPBOX and not a LEMMON CRATE…..
dice45-
...observing Americans sounding off about their own...
All the silky wet spots have a sweet taste to me. After I peek up all the skirts here at Pixies, I peek in a book or two and have found it a mistake to stamp the people with the same mark as their governments and the powers they live under. Seems to be the case all threw out history, from the Incas and Egyptians to the German history books. NOBODY, ANYWHERE, has the monopoly on a government full of corruption, abuse and ignorance. My thing is, as an American, I can do something about it, without fear, if only to start by hollering and pointing. Even if it’s something I contributed to. First one American points, and another looks, then another, and another…….. We Found slavery, the Teapot Dome, McCarthy, Watergate and many more including Vietnam this way. Sometimes rocking the canoe is not all bad and I can do it. Only really bad thing about the world is it’s full of people, and I’m one of them. Just working with that the best way I can and where I have the best chance to do something regardless of how small it is. [BEING AN AMERICAN, +100 pts]
no serious problems with US feet and inches
!WRONG! Add up 2 miles, 3 chains, 4 yards, 2 feet and 7-1/2 inches without a calculator that has algebraic functions, if you have the time to spare. Then ask a 3rd grader to add 2 kilometers, 3 meters, 4 centimeters, and 5 millimeters. SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES. [PMO No.3, –10 pts.]
Why the heck did they let vinyl records start from the outer groove
Just my thoughts- It was a carryover from the first phonograph media that was a cylinder and of course started from the outside edge. JUST STUPID MIND SET. [PMO No.4, -3 pts.]
....Gear pitch is count of teeth per inch, about same is tap pitch...
!RIGHT! We have to make template type gages or count by hand or with a scriber point within a known distance. VERY AWKARD AND SUBJECT TO ERROR [PMO No.5, -5pts]
measure wire thickness by the weight
!RIGHT! And don’t forget sheet metal gages, related to nothing else size wise. Supposedly based on the yield of the product based on a know quantity of raw material. Different material specific gravity create different gage systems for the same type products. BACK ASSWARD APPROCH AND THINKING. [PMO No.6, -10 pts]

*Interesting notes*
Shotgun Bore Gages- An equal portion, of a pound of lead, formed into a sphere, determines the diameter of the bore and the portion number is the gage size. So a 12 gage shotgun bore has no reference to the size of the bore what so ever, but totally to the size of the lead ball made from 1/12 of pound of lead.

Pipe Sizes- Pipe is concerned with the volume of matter it is capable of containing. The I.D. is the functional size of a pipe but in order to make fittings it was necessary to standardize the O.D.. After this was done, different wall thickness was required for different applications, particularly when steam was the primary source of power which happened to be at the same point in the industrial revolution that standards were trying to be developed. So they changed the wall to meet the increasing pressure demands. This changes the I.D. which is the reference size of the product, so you have pipe sizes that have no relationship to the size designation.
What amazes me are those folks drawing electronic circuits using ASCII characters
Still undergoing development and modification. And it’s happening. [PMO No.7, -1 pt]

My whole point here is not just to grumble about any method or system, but to change it when it has proven to be no longer functional. I am VERY cautious about revolution but very supportive of evolution. Sometimes evolution moves forward with a jerking lung and then stabilizes for a period of time. When you do not move with it you become extinct.

Now let me get back under this soapbox and look up at the rewards of this life struggle. Get back up here SugarFreeCandy:p :D :p

[dice45]

pantyfanantic,

concerning the Imperial dimension units, won't take me that long, my electronic fist wedge (model HP48GX) knows them all and can add mixed units, even performing dimension analysis in the background and complaining about incompatible units.
So that's no problem. Calculalting W/O an electronic fist wedge, c'mon, we are in the electronic stone age! :)

Concerning throwing Americans in the same pot with American gov'ment, well i don't think this would be right.
If this gov'ment would have been elected properly .... but this is not the case. Has not been the case for 100 years. Since about 1900 (according to some historians i have read, metends to follow that opinion) ultmitate power in the US is wielded by the business tycoons, by the Wall Street. And either elections have been influenced or the elected have been tamed to suit the Wall Street needs after election. for the record, add an IMO, ok?

!RIGHT! And don't forget sheet metal gages, related to nothing else size wise. Supposedly based on the yield of the product based on a know quantity of raw material. Different material specific gravity create different gage systems for the same type products. BACK ASSWARD APPROCH AND THINKING. [PMO No.6, -10 pts]

this probably comes from merchants defining units of technical goods they do not full understand as far as physical and technical properties, manufacturing, sizing and interfacing necessities are concerned.

[Grumble]

Hey PF keep the soapbox mate. I enjoy your very specific and rational thinking. I didnt know how lead shot was sized but it doesn't seem all that logical now I know.

The decimal/metric system is very easy to grasp and it is hard to change from what you were brought up on. I too have problems still with a persons height, I still think I am 5' 7" tall not about 170cm but I am OK with being 75 Kg. Isnt that strange.

I mainly think metric now but using different spanners (oh yeah americans call them wrenches lol) I am very versatile in that I can use metric, AF and BSW ones with some precision.

Copper pipe in Australia is measured OD not ID as in the US. The US idea is the most practical in this instance.

We have Australian Standards that have caused some confusion if you are not conversant with them,. 1/2" pipe is 15mm but if you converted it exactly the it would be 12.7mm so the 15mm is sometimes confused with 5/8" but now that is 18mm with 20mm for 3/4". OD of course.

If you work in the industry as I have it is no problem. I design and install medical gas reticulation systems for hospitals and other gaseous applications. I have had a long involvement with the AS2896 - Design and Installation of Medical Gas Systems for Human Use. I have actually had several of my submissions adopted into the standard, something of which I am quite proud.

[legend]

i'm just wondering what the total points score for PF was....

[PantyFanatic]

Originally posted by legend
i'm just wondering what the total points score for PF was....
Do you want that in Metric or Imperial or Hibernian Point Gage Values ?:rolleyes:

[Neige]

My first language is an Acadian dialect. This consists mostly of old French words and expressions. French people absolutely can't understand it, however! :p (Neither from Québec nor from France!) When I visited France, I would talk to my friends in Acadian, and the people from there assumed I was talking english since they just couldn't make out anything I was saying. :confused:
Acadian dialects vary though. I have cousins who live barely an hour from here, and we have difficulty understanding each other. The differences in pronounciation and even the way we put sentences together are surprisingly different.
Unfortunately, in this modern age, we are losing many of our old expressions and becoming more and more influenced by English.:(

[PantyFanatic]

Is “three-dozen-hundred” a word even in our screwed up English system?:confused:









(And after I make my next post, this won’t make any sense to any body. LMAO That’s why I though it belonged here;) )

[fzzy]

LOL ... a few I remember ....

Baby buggy/pram
orange juice /squash (where in America - squash is a veggie)
car hood/bonnet .... trunk/hood??

[campingboy]

In NA the car trunk is call the Boot in the UK

A camping trailer in NA is called a Caravan in the UK

In Na we have football and soccer, in most of the reat of the world they only have football which is soccer....

In Na they have a sofa, in the UK they have couches or cherterfields.

[Grumble]

OHHHH I am glad to see this thread reappear :)

I have contributed to it a lot previously and hope we all get into it again.

One thing I find very frequently is that our Americans cousins rarely use the word too. eg I am too full to eat another bite.
It always seems to be spelt "to" which has a different meaning.

Teddy Bear knows as we chat regualarly and I am always pulling her up on it so she often types toooooo LOL.

but I would like to show some dictionary listings on some common words that we differ on

arse
// ‡ Colloquial
--noun 1. rump; bottom; buttocks; posterior. 2. a despised person. 3. impudence: what arse!

--phrase (verb) (arsed; arsing)
4. a boot up the arse, swift punishment or retribution.
5. a (nice) bit (or piece) of arse, a person considered as a sexual object.
6. a pain in the arse, an annoying person, thing, event, etc.: this computer is a pain in the arse.
7. arse about, in reverse or illogical order: he did the exercise completely arse about.
8. arse about (or around), to act like a fool; waste time.
9. arse about face, changed in direction; back to front.
10. arse over tit (or apex), fallen heavily and awkwardly, usually in a forward direction.
11. arse up, to spoil; cause to fail.
12. cover one's arse, to protect oneself.
13. down on one's arse, out of luck; destitute.
14. get one's arse into gear, to become organised and ready for action.
15. get the arse, a. to be dismissed, especially from employment. b. to be rejected or rebuffed.
16. give someone the arse, a. to dismiss someone, especially from employment. b. to reject or rebuff someone.
17. kick arse, Originally US a. to assert authority by being violent and aggressive towards people. b. to defeat opponents soundly.
18. kick someone's arse, a. to beat someone convincingly. b. to reprimand someone severely.
19. kiss my arse, (an expression of derision).
20. up Cook's arse, NZ (an expression of disgust).
[Middle English, from Old English ears]

pissed
// ‡ Colloquial
--adjective 1. drunk. 2. Originally US disgruntled; fed up; thoroughly discontent.
--phrase 3. pissed as a newt (or parrot), extremely drunk. 4. pissed off, disgruntled; fed up; thoroughly discontent.

[BlueSwede]

"One thing I find very frequently is that our Americans cousins rarely use the word too. eg I am too full to eat another bite.
It always seems to be spelt "to" which has a different meaning."


That isn't so, Grumble. The use of the word "too" as you define it or use it here is indeed alive and well in the States. A few people may be mispelling it as "to" by mistake, but that's just because they've forgotten their spelling/grammar rules they learned in school (not that I'm singling out TeddyBear [smile]). I edited medical books here in the States for 24 years; believe me, the majority of us definitely use "too" just as you do.

[dm383]

It's too bad you two can't agree to share the tu-tu together!!!

Too , two wrongs don't make a right, but to be fair to the two of you, let's agree to differ!! :)

[celticangel]

Two negatives can make a positive, but two positives only make a negative in "GLASGOW"~~~~~~~~

aye,right!!!!!

[PantyFanatic]

This is all too much for the two halves of a brain to comprehend.





(Oh yes:rolleyes: ………………… this language is a real logical thing.)

[hellsbells]

Gosh PF, is that all you have to say, I was expecting to read war and peace again, my oh my you can rattle on. lol. Don't ever change hun, we all love you as you are.

With Horseman12 coming from the south, I invariabely have to ask him what he means, and yet he understands most of what I say.....strange huh? Apart from all the words already mentioned, eg ass, fanny etc, the one he uses which I love is Whody, which I gather means eh? whats that you say? please repeat I don't understand...hehe

Can I mention though, common to the Brits, Aussies and Americans is a little phrase that no other language equalls, some languages don't even have anything that translates, and that is "I LOVE YOU" How sad for the French and German among us, because to me je t'aime and ich libe dich (sp?) just doesn't measure up to us!!!

[PantyFanatic]

Can you tell they struck a note (without intermodulation frequency distortion;) ) with me? lol


:)

[osuche]

I just learned in the South that the plural of "y'all" (translation -- "you all" or "they") is....


<drum roll>


ALL Y'ALL!


(yikes)

[Lilith]

You mean all ya'll didn't know that? Awwww... well bless your heart!

[PantyFanatic]

"ALL Y'ALL"


OMG:o

LMAO

Don't post that on an international board OSUChe. The rest of the world already has a low enough opinion of the uncouth barbarians in the colonies.:rolleyes:

[Lilith]

I beg your pardon??????

[Scarecrow]

Lilith isn't that .... well bless your pea picken heart

[Grumble]

a word that has taken my fancy is used by Quisath

Dayum what does it mean? I dinna ken LOL