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axe31
05-20-2002, 06:16 PM
and do you ladys still want them
to hold a door open
to help you out of the car
help you on with your coat
and all the other gentlemenly acts
Lilith
05-20-2002, 06:23 PM
I am teaching my sons to be gentlemen..... they hold doors for ladies at the mall and the ladies all seem so surprised. I have explained to them that it will pay off for them to learn to be chivalrous. They think it is cool! Of course they also think farts are cool! ROTFLMAO
On the other hand I am infamous for holding doors open for men too.... they usually just look at me :p
I expect courtesy to be a two way street but I dooooo so love a man who goes out of his way to treat me like a lady!
BamaKyttn
05-20-2002, 06:34 PM
I enjoy being treated like a lady but it's a flip side to the fact that I like it on occasion... like when I'm actually dressed up for a change not in my jeans and a t.... I like it with a smile, don't act like it's killin you! but usually, I'm with Lilith it's a 2-way street I hold doors too. I have also been known to take my b/fs and g/fs flowers..... roses usually
Irish
05-20-2002, 06:42 PM
Lilith---I was at Wal*Mart;one day;and I held the door(automatically)for an elderly woman.She was suprised and said;
"Thank You!No one ever does that anymore."I told her that I was
brought up that way!Maybe;it's a generational difference.People
don't teach their kids,manners,or discipline anymore. Irish
P.S.I have held the door for people and they don't offer thanks or
any acknowledgement.I just;yell;"Your Welcome"after them.NO
thanks;but;it embarrasses them terribly!
Dominatra
05-20-2002, 06:59 PM
i think chivalry is totally underrated -- with all the feminism nowadays, some men just gave up ....but it's so nice!!! makes me feel so feminine :) well, i know some guys get confused because they don't want to go "overboard" but there's nothing wrong with opening the door and helping with her coat....little things like that ...
i think it's such a turn-on too. makes me want them to sweep me off my feet and carry me right off to the bedroom!
Grumble
05-21-2002, 01:25 AM
Well I confess, I am a gentleman, hold doors open, help with coats, stand up when a lady comes to the table.
Still as Irish said, its generational.
PlayfulTigress
05-21-2002, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by axe31
and do you ladys still want them
to hold a door open
to help you out of the car
help you on with your coat
and all the other gentlemenly acts
It is nice when my Boyfriend unlocks my side of His car first or holds a door open for me at dinner or the movies, but I certainly don't expect it from Him.
I am a very independent woman. I was raised that way. It is what I know. As a child, I was a tomboy. Boys were friends. Girls I had crushes on. I enjoyed sports, riding mountain bikes, playing with Hotwheels... As I grew, I "finally" developed crushes on boys as well. By the end of Jr. High (summer before Frosh year of HS), I began to "date" some. Throughout all of High School, I always made sure I had money before I accepted a date. (I didn't want to "risk" the chance of a guy saying I "owed him something" for taking me out...)
~Linds
nikanik
05-21-2002, 04:02 AM
I personally love being treated like a lady! Teaching my sons to do it too. People are so shocked when my four year old says yes maam or no sir or call them mr so and so or ms so and so. i think its the only way to do it.
dicksbro
05-21-2002, 04:25 AM
I've done all those things for as long as I can remember. Even had a lady seeing me open the car door for my wife one day ask if I gave lessons. Maybe it is a generational thing but this is how my folks taught my brother and I to behave.
PantyFanatic
05-21-2002, 05:07 AM
… I love everything feminine about the ladies:p :p, and extending some civility is enjoyable for me.:) But as Irish said, it must be generational. I’ve gone threw the femininest decades when I was made to feel as if I insulted somebody with courtesy.:o :( A few manners shouldn’t be notable. Only the absence of them should.:rolleyes:
Oldfart
05-21-2002, 07:59 AM
Tigress, WB. Long time no see.
I do the door thing and all that, not as a male/female thing,
but as a simple act of respect for others.
If you do things just because it's a woman, that is sexist.
I do all those things but like oldfart said its more of a respect thing if there is some one going through the same door as me I will hold it for them weather it be a man woman or somthing else its nice to have them thak me but its better to see the look of surprise on there face
Dominatra
05-21-2002, 09:33 AM
i sometimes absentmindedly open the door to say a restaurant as I'm chatting away on a date and it doesn't bother me in the least, because as others have said, it's a respect thing, but it's funny to see some guys freak out like "oh my god, she got to the door before me....i'm screwed" LOL like i'd actually say, "that's it, you're out!" LOL
sweetc0rn
05-21-2002, 10:08 AM
I remember i used to date a dutch guy sometimes back. He was really should a gentlemen that I only have memories of our good times together but well... good things have to go... I still misses him though :)
Irish
05-21-2002, 10:33 AM
In a way;sexual discrimination,suits are screwing things up!I know that they are needed with some people.My wife works at
Liberty Mutual.A couple of years;ago;they had mandatory classes
on sex discrimination advances.She said that;in a way;it has ruined things now.She said that some prudish people;have sued
over such menial things;that alot of men;that she works with;are
afraid;to even tell someone;that they look nice that day!Believe me;my wife&daughters are very independant! Irish
gr8m8
05-21-2002, 11:52 AM
i used to bitch and moan when my mom insisted that i 'be a gentelman' ... now i'm forever grateful to her as it has more than impressed a number of ladies. i think all women should be treated like queens, with respect and dignity. that's chivarly, too. it gives me a level of sophistication as well ... knowing what fork to use when, holding a door, carrying a drink, offering her the umbrella, standing when she arrives/departs the table ... all these things make me her important, as they should.
Also, it makes me feel a whole lot better about myself and the world around me. Living in the city, i do things (doors, etc.) in spite of people, since many are rude and just don't care, not just on dates nor solely to impress. kill 'em with kindness.
raivenn357
05-21-2002, 01:11 PM
lotta good post here =) I try to be a gentleman and be romantic. Theres one woman that took me by storm from the start.. even though we are just good friends, I try to make her feel good all the time because thats what makes me happy =)
My question is this: Can women ever get enough comments about how they look and how the act? and how they make men feel, not just sexually but emotionally as well? I dont wanna over do it with nice stuff, even though thats what im thinking the whole time ya know? /sigh wish you women came with instruction manuals lol Would prolly be written in a language not none to man =p
raivenn357
05-21-2002, 01:22 PM
Thought of something else...Some guy opened the door for me today because he saw that my foot was broke and in a cast. Ive seen women do the same and it's a very nice thing to see when people have respect for one another. I hold doors for people even though I know they wouldnt do it for me..but it makes me feel good and thats what ultimatly counts imo. And dont ever do it to be noticed...do it because you want to because it gives you that warm fuzzy for doing something nice..thats what makes a gentleman (or gentlewoman =p)
As far as treating women like queens, I totally agree. With an exception of course...if I see that it does nothing for her and she still shits on me then she dont deserve to be treated nicely. I still follow lifes little rule of treat others and you would like to be treated. If they treat me ok, then Ill do anything in my power to treat them like royalty. But atm, theres only one queen that I go out of my way to make them happy.
PlayfulTigress
05-21-2002, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Oldfart
Tigress, WB. Long time no see.
Thank you. :)
Irish
05-21-2002, 01:24 PM
raivenn357---If they have them;hopefully; they will be in Braille!(sp?) Irish
Steph
05-21-2002, 07:16 PM
My current bf is a complete gentleman . . . sometimes he's a bit too old-fashioned for me—calling the women who work for him "my gals", for example <shudder>—but I can't complain about the breakfast in bed, either! :)
sadora
05-21-2002, 07:57 PM
I am a very independent woman. I work with men, always have. I think it depends on the circumstance and surroundings whether you should hold doors, open doors and how you should shake hands.
When I am going out, or in a formal setting, it is a treat to be pampered, and treated like that..... when you are in a work environment, it becomes a put down. Whoever gets to the door first at work should hold the door open. Women shouldn't be treated differently. Men should also give a woman a firm handshake in a work environment. None of the formal ladies handshake sh**.
To be honest... when on a date, or in the right setting, I wish more men were galant, and more often. Twisted tends to forget to be a gentleman, though his heart is in the right place.
Wicked Wanda
05-21-2002, 09:43 PM
I love to be treated as a lady!
But sometimes I am still shocked when a stranger, or even my date, opens a door, or helps me with my coat. One recent date was so gallant as to actually stand up when I excused myself from the dinner table, and stood up again when I came back.
That had a BIG impression on me.
I think that a woman who desires it should be treated as a lady, by a gentleman.
The lawsuits that were mentioned above are so disturbing to me. I have been to some of these "training sessions" and some of them are just scary.
I don't date people from work, (they DO NOT need to know about my life away from work) but after a few of these lectures, I think it might soon be forbidden to socialize in any way with anyone from work!! ever!! anywhere!!
Men who treat me with normal respect, have good manners, AND are clean, will be apreciated *wink* more than some guy who smells like stale cigarette, has dirty nails, talks with food in his mouth, rarely bathes carefully "below the belt", and "drops me off out front"!
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