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Oldfart
10-09-2012, 06:17 AM
I went for a flight in an Antonov Type 2 last Sunday.
sodaklostsoul
10-09-2012, 01:59 PM
Very cool!!
kleclere
10-09-2012, 04:51 PM
That would be way cool.
Lilith
10-09-2012, 06:54 PM
I <3 how you <3 your planes.
Oldfart
10-09-2012, 07:06 PM
Nearly as much as I love you, Lil.
For God's sake don't force me to decide between you!!! LOL
Lord Snow
10-09-2012, 07:19 PM
Oldfart, that's when you use your love of planes to get her to join the mile high club.
Oldfart
10-09-2012, 07:25 PM
Some from my camera.
Oldfart
10-09-2012, 07:27 PM
And it was like this.
kleclere
10-09-2012, 07:59 PM
Great shots and a possible mile high option too. lol
dicksbro
10-10-2012, 03:34 AM
Great pictures, OF. Beautiful plane. Thanks.
gekkogecko
10-10-2012, 03:06 PM
Freakin' cool, OF.
Oldfart
10-10-2012, 07:33 PM
The weird thing is that this is not an old plane, it was built in the late 80s or early 90s. It's a flying truck that just does it's job, nothing more. Even the US Army used one as a parachute drop plane.
Lilith
10-10-2012, 07:39 PM
Nearly as much as I love you, Lil.
For God's sake don't force me to decide between you!!! LOL
:loveshowe
PantyFanatic
10-12-2012, 12:50 PM
Another great heavier-than-air experience for you. :thumb: No question it was designed for jump/drop plane use with that door location and elevated stabilizer. Interesting radial engine. What is it?
How do you get to do all those cool things? :sad:
Oldfart
10-12-2012, 07:45 PM
The engine is, according to Wiki,
Powerplant: 1 × Shvetsov ASh-62IR 9-cylinder supercharged radial engine, 750 kW (1,000 hp).
She was designed, like the DC3, to do everything well, from cropdusting to passenger work. There is even a tale told of a written off Anushka having it's wings removed and being used as a towmotor around one of the huge farming communes.
She's no WW1 relic. Again from Wiki,
It has a pneumatic brake system (similar to those used on heavy road vehicles) to stop on short runways.
It has an air line fitted to the compressor, so the pressure in the tires and shock absorbers can be adjusted without the need for special equipment.
The batteries are large and easy to remove, so the aircraft does not need a ground power unit to supply power.
There is no need for an external fuel pump to refuel the aircraft, as it has an onboard pump that allows the tanks to be filled from simple fuel drums.
It has a minimum of complex systems. The crucial wing leading edge slats that give the aircraft its slow flight ability are fully automatic, being held closed by the airflow over the wings. Once the airspeed drops below 64 km/h (40 mph), the slats will extend because they are on elastic rubber springs.
Take-off run: 170 m, landing run: 215 m (these numbers will of course vary depending on take-off/landing weight, outside air temperature, surface roughness, and headwind).
Antonov An-2 (An2-TP)A note from the pilot's handbook reads: "If the engine quits in instrument conditions or at night, the pilot should pull the control column full aft and keep the wings level. The leading-edge slats will snap out at about 64 km/h (40 mph), and when the airplane slows to a forward speed of about 40 km/h (25 mph), the airplane will sink at about a parachute descent rate until the aircraft hits the ground."
The An-2 indeed has no stall speed quoted in the operating handbook. Pilots of the An-2 say one can fly the aircraft in full control at 30 mph (as a contrast, a modern Cessna four-seater light aircraft has a stall speed of around 50 mph). This slow stall speed makes it possible for the aircraft to fly backwards (if the aircraft is pointed into a headwind of, say, 35 mph (56 km/h), it will travel backwards at 5 mph (8.0 km/h) whilst under full control). (This is also possible with almost any other true Short Take Off and Landing (STOL) aircraft, but the Antonov has the distinction of being able to do the trick in the mildest headwind.)
I enjoyed the experience.
I am always on the lookout for flights in radials I haven't flown in.
dicksbro
10-13-2012, 04:17 AM
Very interesting, OF. Sounds like a really exceptional aircraft. I'm amazed at the very short take off and landing runs. Wow! That'd let you take off and land just about anywhere. I assume it can be fit with snowski's for winter use in more primitive areas?
Oldfart
10-13-2012, 04:29 AM
I assume it can be fit with snowski's for winter use in more primitive areas?
Skis, floats and even a modified wing turning it into a sea-skimmer.
lizzardbits
10-18-2012, 04:32 PM
Awesome! I love to fly, especially the thrill of the take off! Very very cool OF!!!
Teddy Bear
10-23-2012, 01:15 PM
What..... you didn't get out and walk on the wings ?
Isn't that the type of plane they use for that?
You do get to do some exciting things, OF!
Very cool!!
:thumb:
Oldfart
10-23-2012, 07:15 PM
What..... you didn't get out and walk on the wings ?
Isn't that the type of plane they use for that?
Did you mean this one?
Oldfart
10-23-2012, 07:16 PM
Or this one?
Teddy Bear
10-25-2012, 11:23 AM
Or this one?
I was thinking more like the second one.
Oldfart
10-25-2012, 04:20 PM
Nah, this thing is a flying utility truck.
Oldfart
11-11-2012, 05:17 AM
I couldn't make this show (in New Zealand) but some pics coming out of it are amazing.
gekkogecko
11-11-2012, 12:03 PM
A Bristol Fighter; and the truly atrocious crate, wow. Is that a Fee on the right int he frist photo, or a DH 2?
Oldfart
11-11-2012, 06:05 PM
I suspect it's a Fee, with 3 wing struts, the DH2 had 2 (I think).
dicksbro
11-11-2012, 08:23 PM
I know, the next time you come to the States, you could bring several of those planes with you ... with the pilots of course. :D
Oldfart
11-11-2012, 10:20 PM
I'll check my baggage allowance again DB.
Oldfart
11-16-2013, 12:34 AM
I went to a show at Temora, in southern New South Wales. It was a fairly small show by US standards, but everything that flew had a big connection to Oz Aviation. No PF, that does not include flying monkeys.
The pics me took so long to post because I had to do some tidying up of dust and grass on the lens.
Oldfart
11-16-2013, 12:36 AM
More.
Oldfart
11-16-2013, 12:39 AM
More more.
Oldfart
11-16-2013, 12:41 AM
Last more.
Great pictures OF, just love the plane with teeth lol
Teddy Bear
11-16-2013, 01:35 AM
Wow, those are some cool looking planes. I love the flying in formation pics. Very cool.
Oldfart
11-16-2013, 06:33 AM
BIBI, she a Mark 8 Spitfire.
Teddy Bear, it's great fun.
jseal
11-16-2013, 07:35 AM
Excellent weather for the display. :thumb:
Oldfart
11-16-2013, 07:57 AM
I cheated and brightened some up a tad.
gekkogecko
11-16-2013, 12:33 PM
Wow, the one that really got me was the Meteor-that's the Mk NF IX variant?
jseal
11-16-2013, 05:38 PM
I cheated and brightened some up a tad.
Digital editing rules!
Oldfart
11-16-2013, 08:55 PM
Wow, the one that really got me was the Meteor-that's the Mk NF IX variant?
The Temora Trust tell us that it's an F.8, GG.
www.aviationmuseum.com.au if you're interested.
Oldfart
02-07-2014, 09:01 PM
For jseal, BIBI and GG (and onyone else interested), a mate just sent me this link.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/message/1385149639/Photos+from+The+Vintage+Aviator+Ltd%27s+Remembrance+Day+airshow
The Kiwis are brilliant at WW1 restorations and rebuilds.
Thanks Oldfart, :thumb:
Great pics and even better to imagine going up in one of those.....must be the thrill of a life time. Old planes intrigue me, as do some pilots lol..... :D
PantyFanatic
02-07-2014, 11:07 PM
I like the starter car. :D
scotzoidman
02-08-2014, 12:49 AM
Useful warning sticker there... in case of emergency, kiss your ass goodbye.
dicksbro
02-08-2014, 03:32 AM
OF, you're right. Those WWI restores are absolutely beautiful! Wow! I'd love to have been there to see them. :thumbs:
Oldfart
02-08-2014, 04:17 AM
Me too.
These are mainly new-builds, replicas which contain a couple of original nuts and bolts or such. Peter Jackson of the Lord of the Rings fame is one of the driving forces behind this surge.
A lack of fixed wing fighters in the NZ Defence Force is another reason given by unkind Aussies.
Oldfart
08-13-2014, 03:32 AM
Loud noises in the sky here. I was too slow to get better positioned. Maybe tomorrow.
gekkogecko
08-13-2014, 08:33 AM
Someone's gotta keep the Rafales & F-15s in the air.
Lord Snow
08-13-2014, 06:39 PM
A little obsessed with the "upskirt" photos aren't you OF?
Oldfart
08-13-2014, 07:44 PM
They're Grippens, with Aussie Hornets and Yank (or Singapore) F15s. I only get upskirts because they won't show off their topsides, LS.
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