Who you kidding?!?!?!?

[PantyFanatic]

That's right. :rant: Another bitch thread by the old bastard.

Guess who screwed up and had to go to the food store the first week of the month, and on a holiday weekend no less. :hair: Actually it wasn't as bad as expected. I think everybody was in the park with Yogi Bear and their pic-a-nic baskets this afternoon. Perhaps they all did their shopping BEFORE the holiday. I may have to re-think my holiday food shopping schedule. :rolleyes:


Now to the point! :mad:
33 oz./935 gr WTF is that?!?! A few years back all the coffee companies started putting 39 oz. of coffee in the same old #10 tin can that had held an even 3 lbs. or 48 oz. up to that time, for the same price. I'm still not sure how they just about had the can full with 18% less product but they managed. I don't think they fooled most people for too long and yes I was insulted that they thought we were so dumb and they were sticking it to us and we didn't notice.

Today I couldn't find a 39 oz. can. :banghead: It seems they have all changed size to a lesser amount again. It did appear that while they maintained the appearance of can shape, they actually did make a smaller can. (I didn't buy any yet to compare, I'll have to grumble about it for a while before doing that) The thing that got me was it is now 33 oz. or 935 gr. What the hell kind of a measurement is that? It's not an even anything or a multiple of any smaller unit, even in our cocked-up, dumbshit US system. We refuse to acknowledge a better system that the rest of the entire planet uses and keep our heads in the sand (or up our ass) and then we take the joke-system we have and twist it even further to make it harder to use. Stranger yet is the fact that different coffee companies have chosen different amounts to reduce "the big can" by. Next to my brand was one with 36 oz. / 2 lbs. 4 oz. / 1.02 Kg. and one that almost got it right with 35.5 oz. / 1.006 Kg., almost an even unit of something. (I'll have to try that brand :rolleyes2 )

This is like our gasoline prices of $2.74 and 9/10 cent per gal. What the hell is that suppose to be or who is it suppose to be fooling? I use to believe it was only motivated by their greed and they were just trying to finagle a few more pennies out of us. Their efforts to maintain an archaic system and convolute it more have gone beyond that and only make it more complicated for even them and fools no one. I've now come to the conclusion they are just plain STUPID.





Have a nice Labor Day :)

[PantyFanatic]

Yes, ............ I feel better now. :D

[Lilith]

I've now come to the conclusion they are just plain STUPID.








Stupid like a fox. Food costs have sky rocketed and we are all still buying. I love how they have brought back the more generic looking generic boxes. So that we will be tricked by our memories into thinking that somehow that design equals a less expensive product. Same price sometimes even more than a brand name. If you are not a wise careful consumer you will fall for all the tricks. It takes me hours to grocery shop now because I spend so much time figuring out what exactly I am willing to spend my very very hard earned $$$ on.

[PantyFanatic]

My TV dinners and lunch meat come in the same package. :shrug:

[jseal]

Unit pricing can be useful in this regard.

[Scarecrow]

If they sell you gas at $2.99.9 they can tell you it is less than $3.00 a gallon, so 10 gals only cost $29.99. See how big a savings you get LOL :huh:

[scotzoidman]

Ever tried to compare prices on a "half gallon" of ice cream? Appears to be no such thing anymore, sad enough in of itself, but every brand has a different amount of product in the deceptively sized package...1.75 qt, 1.5 qt, even 1.68 qt (WTF?). Thank whatever Kroger has price/unit breakdowns on their shelf tags, but I end up walking up & down the aisle reading fine print & hoping I still remember the $ per ounce when I get to the other end, & then hiking back when I can't...and it's like a $5 cab ride from one end to other! Maybe I end up saving a few pennies, but I think I burn off more shoe rubber than I save :banghead:

And I gave up trying to compare prices on paper goods like TP & paper towels years ago. Different brands use different units, & I'm not getting down on my hands & knees to read the fucking tags oh-so-conveniently located 3/4" from the floor...

And I only wish I felt better now...

[Teddy Bear]

I was manager of a small store years ago. During my training I was told to price things
$1.99 not $2.00 because it looks like a bargain. The shopper thinks its a great deal. They'll be more likely to buy something at $1.99 then they will at $2.00. They've done studies that prove this. Which is why most things are $1.98 or $1.99. Big savings!!!! And this doesn't even take into account the smaller sizes they think we don't notice. It takes a college education to go shopping lately, with calculator in hand! And I saw a package of socks last week with 3..... thats right three.... socks in it. The reasoning being because you always lose one or one wears out before the others......... huh? By the time that happens the 3rd extra sock won't match. And its not like the 3rd sock was free, you definetly paid for it. So who is actually buying these?

[Oldfart]

Even converting to pure metric won't save you. Comparing something at 425 grammes versus 475 grammes is a nightmare. As jseal said, unit pricing.

What pisses me off is that fuel companies have imposed a cycle on the fuel price, so that fuel is dearer when you are most likely to buy (Friday, Saturday and Sunday) and less on days you're less likely to buy. It's a rip-off that the fuel companies have pussy-whipped the government watchdogs into accepting.

[PantyFanatic]

...It's a rip-off that the fuel companies have pussy-whipped the government watchdogs into accepting.
They're not one in the same in your country? :confused:

[Oldfart]

Is that a conspiracy I hear fluttering in the aisles?

[PantyFanatic]

No conspiracy. Nothing new. Just the realities of the underpinning of the established system. :shrug:

[Oldfart]

It's the Golden Rule.

[PantyFanatic]

"He who has the gold makes the rules" :thumb:

[Oldfart]

Yep.

[jseal]

When working with the complexity of reality, some people prefer theory to experience, some consider experience more valuable than theory, and some find that a combination of the two is most useful.

[Booger]

What pisses me off is that fuel companies have imposed a cycle on the fuel price, so that fuel is dearer when you are most likely to buy (Friday, Saturday and Sunday) and less on days you're less likely to buy. It's a rip-off that the fuel companies have pussy-whipped the government watchdogs into accepting.



No conspiracy here at all it's simple supply and demand economic as the demand goes up so does the price and then when it goes down the price drops again.

[PantyFanatic]

^^^ :bs:

[themi01]

PF living at the shore I can see it I have to agree with Booger

[Oldfart]

No conspiracy here at all it's simple supply and demand economic as the demand goes up so does the price and then when it goes down the price drops again.

When we see the same thing happening with frozen peas and dogfood, that's supply and demand. What we are seeing here is crass manipulation of the price to maximise the gouge.

[PantyFanatic]

I have to agree with OF.

[themi01]

OF the prices go up as the vacationers (we call em Bennies ) leave dirty diapers on grocery shelves

[Oldfart]

OF the prices go up as the vacationers (we call em Bennies ) leave dirty diapers on grocery shelves

If the storeholder hasn't factored things like that into his initial pricing, he's incompetent.

[jseal]

What is the difference between an appropriate and an inappropriate profit, and who is entitled to determine the difference?

[Oldfart]

The same people who can discern between just and excessive corporate pay. These things happen when true competition is quashed.

[jseal]

The same people who can discern between just and excessive corporate pay ...
Aha! Public Opinion then? Now there’s a objective standard if ever there was one! :rofl:

[PantyFanatic]

The Have's and the Have Not's! We never learn. The people can eat cake until they are coming through the halls.

[Oldfart]

Is that the creak of the tumbrils I hear?

Inequity will always plant the seeds of reaction.

[sodaklostsoul]

PF.......grow your own coffee beans.

[jseal]

“... The people can eat cake ...”, “... the creak of the tumbrils ...”

Aha! With the allusions to Marie Antoinette and the carts used to carry condemned prisoners to their place of execution, the scene is set and the analogy made between the current economic situation and the French Revolution, with the implicit “do as we say, or you will be murdered.”

Permit me a moment to don the appropriate costume ...

Oui Messieurs, parce que plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

[Oldfart]

Was not America founded on the anger generated by the British inequity of (among other things) taxation without representation?

The dependance on social inertia is a shaky position, just ask the Romanovs. Sorry, you can't, can you?

[jseal]

Neither rage nor threats of violence, even when repeatedly carried out, have ever changed the human condition. The communists have been buried. The Romanovs have been sainted.

The way forward is through reason.

To recap, Who you kidding?!?!?!?

[Oldfart]

When those who are creating the issue are beyond reason, as the adherence to the obscene pay/bonus regime shows, reason is a trap for the reasonable.

Perhaps the anarchists have a point after all.

[jseal]

I agree that there are those who see reason as a trap. For those who do not, and for any who might want to understand what happened (rather than merely looking for scapegoats) over these twelve months or so, the BBC is presenting a thoughtful assessment of the global recession (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/business/2007/creditcrunch/default.stm).

In particular, this piece on the downfall of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8239033.stm), which almost destroyed the American mortgage market, is a good introduction to one of the financial instruments, securitization, and how these “securities” became “toxic assets.”

[Oldfart]

As I remember it, the charming custom of Overstatement, an indirect function of greed, was one of the root causes.