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Teddy Bear
02-25-2009, 11:08 PM
A friend sent me this news clip. I had not seen it. Did you?

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Sen. Shelby: I haven’t Seen Obama’s Birth Certificate.

Sen. Richard Shelby has revisited an earlier controversy by suggesting that Barack Obama is foreign-born and not eligible to be president. The Alabama Republican met with constituents in Cullman County on Saturday, mainly to discuss the economic stimulus bill, which he opposed. But a local resident asked Shelby if there is any truth to allegations that arose during the presidential campaign concerning Obama’s place of birth, the Cullman Times reported. “Well, his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate,” Shelby said. “You have to be born in America to be president.”

Shelby is correct in stating that Obama has not released his birth certificate. Instead, Obama’s campaign released his certification of live birth — not his actual birth certificate. The certification acknowledges birth but does not include such details as place of birth. State officials in Hawaii sought to stem the controversy during the campaign, claiming that they had checked health department records and determined that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii. Also, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama’s birth that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961, nine days after his birth. It included his parents' address in Honolulu.

Arch-conservative Alan Keyes is among those who allege that Obama has failed constitutional muster to become president. Keyes, a former U.S. ambassador who ran against Obama in 2004 as the Republican Senate candidate in Illinois, said in a recent interview that Obama was born in Kenya. Obama could put the urban legend to rest by simply releasing his actual birth certificate, but he has declined to do so. Since his place of birth in Hawaii is identified on his still undisclosed birth certificate, he is one of the few U.S. presidents whose location of birth is still not known to the public.

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Scarecrow
02-26-2009, 12:58 AM
No but I think it is bullsh**. His mother was a US citizen, we have many diplomates and military personal who have a foreign spouses and have children born outside the US and their children are citizens. So should Obama be any different. How many Pixies were born outside of the US and are Natural US citizens? Place of birth should have nothing to do with Citizenship in todays global comunity.

Lilith
02-26-2009, 05:40 AM
This stuff has been hashed all over the internet since before the election.

wyndhy
02-26-2009, 08:57 AM
knock knock


who's there?


kenya.


kenya who?


kenya give this crap a rest already?:p:D


mccain's citizeship was also contested (born in panama). just more riff from the raff of the opposing team. i believe a copy of obama's B.C. was made available on the internet way back in the fall.

PantyFanatic
02-26-2009, 10:26 AM
Who cares anyway? George Bush scraped the US constitution years ago.

jseal
02-26-2009, 12:54 PM
What nonsense!

lakritze
02-26-2009, 01:24 PM
SCREW...(1)Republicans,(2)NeoConservatives,(3) Arch Conservatives,(4) Southern Governors like this Dork and Bobbie Ginsot {or whatever},(5) Right-wing T.V.and Radio pundits who are trying to stir up controversy where there isn't any,(6) Blue Dog Democrats... The ones that don't actually belong in prison for ripping off this country or for their war crimes/profiteering,should go home,find a big easy chair to sit down in,fold their hands in their lap,and shut the f'ck up.

Oldfart
02-26-2009, 11:32 PM
The answer is simple.

If it's a bone of contention, settle it.

Irish
02-27-2009, 11:11 AM
The answer is simple.

If it's a bone of contention, settle it.
From the mouths of babes! Irish :argue:

Teddy Bear
02-27-2009, 03:34 PM
I missed alot during this past year due to health and this was one of them....

If its a law one has to be born in the USA to be President wouldn't there need to be an amendment to the constitution to change it? Not talking about the current Pres. just in general isn't that how it works?

jseal
02-27-2009, 04:34 PM
Teddy Bear,

Yes'm. You are correct - but you do not need to have been born within the U.S.


Article. II.

Section. 1.

...

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

scotzoidman
02-28-2009, 01:31 AM
And as SC pointed out, anyone born of a US citizen is a "natural born citizen", even the place of birth is on the Moon.

Time to move on.

PantyFanatic
02-28-2009, 01:52 AM
..... The ones that don't actually belong in prison for ripping off this country or for their war crimes/profiteering,should go home,find a big easy chair to sit down in,fold their hands in their lap,and shut the f'ck up.
BULLSHIT!:mad: The US Gang Of Four have some questions to answer to my country, then to the world court.



http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/PantyFanatic/Gang_of_Four_US.jpg

jseal
02-28-2009, 05:47 AM
I'm sure there are many who would agree with this opinion.

citrus
03-01-2009, 07:27 PM
Teddy Bear,
Yes'm. You are correct - but you do not need to have been born within the U.S.
Article. II.
Section. 1. ... "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."August 21, 1959 Hawaii became the 50th state.
Anyone born in Hawaii on or after that date is a "natural born citizen." of the U.S.A.
Anyone born before that date in Hawaii territory is not a "natural born cititzen" of the U.S.A.

jseal
03-01-2009, 07:38 PM
Fair enough. Let us take it from the angle that President Obama was born in Hawaii after it became a state.

This should do the trick (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html).

rabbit
03-01-2009, 09:44 PM
I wish we would keep politics off these boards. Little good ever comes from it.

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