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ghost13
01-13-2009, 03:58 AM
Well, I figured since this is an adult forum, nothing would be taboo... Well, almost nothing. lol Once upon a time, I used to 420 but I don't any longer. I will say that I prefer it to drinking. Anybody else care to chime in?

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Oldfart
01-13-2009, 05:37 AM
420?

I give up.

Lilith
01-13-2009, 05:58 AM
I do not although I have experimented in the past. I can't be that incapacitated and function with the demands of my life.

dicksbro
01-13-2009, 07:53 AM
420?

I give up.

I did a search on "420" and it's evidently drug related. No, never have or will do it.

IowaMan
01-13-2009, 10:04 AM
I have absolutely no idea but I'll assume that I haven't done it. :shrug:

Pita
01-13-2009, 10:31 AM
HaHa! I first heard that the term for drug use was 420 when someone on my diet board brought it to my attention. My name on there is Pita420 and there were people on there that actually thought I liked to get high and because I was dieting ate pita bread. :rolleyes: Pita by the way stands for pain in the ass, not that I don't like me some good pita bread from time to time. :D

In my former life, with my ex, we smoked a lot of dope. It was both an escape and a trap from my miserable life. I haven't touched drugs or cigarettes in almost 4 years. I so rarely drink that a beer or a glass of wine give me a buzz. I love my life now! :heartbeat

ghost13
01-13-2009, 11:04 AM
Alright, to clear this up a bit '420' refers to smoking marijuana. I have a non-traditional view on marijuana use but I won't really go into it here. Hope that helps a bit to clear up the confusion.

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Lilith
01-13-2009, 07:37 PM
Why bring it up if you don't plan to expand on your ideas?

Jude30
01-13-2009, 09:19 PM
Never smoked and don't see a reason to start now, but I am for legalization.

Anyone who has ever worked a drive through at a fast food restaurant will tell you that a person high on pot is 100 times easier and more pleasant to deal with than some drunk asshole.

Lilith
01-13-2009, 10:11 PM
What do you mean drive-thru??? What high person in their right mind feels the need to go anywhere????? :p I always say the best thing about pot over alcohol is no stoned drivers. Smokin does not usually inspire the need to do much of anything much less leave the house.

Jude30
01-13-2009, 10:54 PM
I worked fast food in a college town, there were at least three apartment complexes within a block of the Hardee's I worked at. Stoned people will walk to get three burgers for a dollar.

Lord Snow
01-13-2009, 11:10 PM
Walk not Drive. Me personally, I've never smoked, don't have a reason to smoke, probably never will smoke. Most I've ever done for drugs is MY scripts and get drunk. However, I'm another for legalization just because I think it's stupid to lock someone up for a year because they smoked. Especially when all would take is a slight adaptation to the tobacco laws to give another income to the government so they can quit dipping into my pocket.

ghost13
01-14-2009, 04:01 AM
Why bring it up if you don't plan to expand on your ideas? My original intentions for the thread was just a simple question of do/did you smoke marijuana. I didn't want to get into all different aspects of whether it was right or wrong, in order to avoid a much heated topic. Decriminalization/legalization is a touchy subject along with Politics and Religion. I try my best to steer clear of those topics because people tend to always think their opinion is the correct one, and adamantly refuse to accept any other views. Not saying that about any of youse, just in general. If everyone can agree to maintain some level of civility, I'll post my thoughts on the matter of cannabis. =)

Now, as for marijuana making someone feel like not doing anything, this isn't totally true. There's three widely known species of cannabis; Cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica, and Cannabis ruderalis. There may be more but for our purposes, we'll focus on these three. Cannabis ruderalis is an almost unknown species here in the West, because it's a wild variety native to Russia and the surrounding areas. Most cannabis nowadays is usually a hybrid of Sativa/Indica.

There's quite a few differences that differentiate the two, but we'll focus on the the type of 'high' they give. Indicas are usually what give you that 'couchlocked' or 'stoned' feeling. When you smoke this type, you usually won't do anything but keep the couch warm, and talk about deep philospohical thoughts... lol As far as Sativas go, this is the type that gives you an energetic high that makes you want to do everything.

So, class... to sum it up... Indicas = 'body' high, and Sativas = 'head' high. =) This isn't absolutely written in stone, but it gives you a nice, general idea.

Lillith, if you feel this topic is a bit verboten for your forums, please feel free to remove it because I wouldn't like to attract any unwanted/unnecessary attention to the forums.

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Lilith
01-14-2009, 05:52 AM
We've had many drug discussions in the past. It is not taboo. The people here are capable of discussing things without being nasty. Well mostly :p

jseal
01-14-2009, 02:10 PM
ghost13,

Yes'm. Back in the dim mists of time I smoked my share of weed.

ghost13
01-14-2009, 02:20 PM
We've had many drug discussions in the past. It is not taboo. The people here are capable of discussing things without being nasty. Well mostly :p

lol That's good to know, Lilith... Most forums usually bash people quite a bit, but I must admit I haven't seen any bashing going on here. I mentioned earlier that I used to smoke quite a bit, but don't any longer. The reasoning for this is because there's too much at stake for me to lose now (my two boys) if I were ever convicted of a drug charge. I will admit that I'm not a fan of the police, and I refuse to be a patsy for them. If the Government were to decriminalize cannabis today, I'd definitely light up a spliff...

There's other reasons for it not being decriminalized other than it being classified as a 'drug'. Cannabis has only been illegal on a federal level since 1937. There's a ton of useful purposes for this plant, but I won't list them here. Well, I guess that's enough of my ranting... :)

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jbh3
01-14-2009, 03:03 PM
420 !!!...ha...thats funny...I had no idea what that meant a few months ago.But my son has since enlightened me about the "Holiday"....LOL

I don't smoke,been sober 5 years now.....to each his own...party on Garth!!!

FallenAngel5
01-14-2009, 04:24 PM
Party on, Wayne! :)

I've smoked a bit at college, liked it, would probably do it again given the opportunity. But I wouldn't say that it's something I have a strong urge (well once in a while) or need to do.

ghost13
01-14-2009, 06:52 PM
I don't really get urges to smoke. Thankfully it's not like heroin when you get all sick from withdrawals (don't know the heroin stuff firsthand, just from movies...). Also, I feel to make a point that although I have smoked cannabis, I've never done any other illicit drug. I never got the urge to try X or coke, or smack... I do get the urge for a cold beer every now and again, though... ;)

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Lord Snow
01-14-2009, 11:27 PM
Cold beer is legal though.

scotzoidman
01-15-2009, 12:48 AM
Been a long time supporter of de-criminalization, & spent many pleasant years out of the last 3 or 4 decades enjoying that "comfortably numb" state. My arguments in weed's favor is that it's impossible to O.D. (me & many others have tried to find the lethal dose...apparently it's somewhere way beyond the "nod-off" dose), non-addicting (no one I've known who really wanted to quit couldn't do it), & stoned people don't cause nearly as much trouble as drunk people do (ask any cop). My present occupation requires a clear head & clean urine, & my current medical conditions require too many prescription drugs, so I have no problem turning it down these days; but that's my point, we should all be free to choose, & the only really bad side effect of pot is going to jail. So there. :whack:

Oldfart
01-15-2009, 06:18 AM
The day they can tax it and breath test for inebriation, it'll be legal.

Lord Snow
01-15-2009, 09:52 AM
They can tax it. Don't know how they'd tell high someone is. Maybe number of bags of cheetos in the car?

themi01
01-15-2009, 02:32 PM
Not anymore for more reasons than they make us pee in a cup at random at work

scotzoidman
01-15-2009, 03:55 PM
The day they can tax it and breath test for inebriation, it'll be legal.
They can tax it anytime they want; the testing for one's current state of mind is the sticking point...well, that & the older generation that was raised believing Mary Jane was as bad or worse than H. Indeed, my 2nd biggest complaint about the current state of affairs is that the only accepted test for weed just tells the tester one has been IN CONTACT with it sometime in the last 60 days or so. That's right, you don't have to bogart a whole doobie, you could just have breathed the air in the room where Cheech & Chong were a few minutes ago.

OK, :rant: over.



...until next time...

jseal
01-15-2009, 06:29 PM
Ah those Cheech & Chong movies! Just what the world needs today – another big hit. :)

shadowsfate
01-15-2009, 07:04 PM
Ah those Cheech & Chong movies! Just what the world needs today – another big hit. :)

Don't ask me where I saw it, but I read somewhere that they are thinking of doing another Cheech & Chong movie, but this time animated

Lord Snow
01-15-2009, 07:33 PM
I love the first Cheech and Chong movie Up in Smoke. Wasn't that fond of Still Smokin.

pinkFlames
01-16-2009, 03:11 AM
The day they can tax it and breath test for inebriation, it'll be legal.

We already have random roadside drug testing.

ghost13
01-16-2009, 04:13 AM
Quite a few of youse guys make some valid points so I'll address each one of youse individually...

Lord Snow - Precisely why I don't smoke anymore, mate...

Scotz - Yeppers... I quit smoking because of my children and the chances of them being placed in foster care if ever I was arrested. Passing a U/A is another valid reason because it can affect your livelihood, i.e., job/career. Spending time in jail with Bubba isn't my idea of fun, either. lol I can understand many people not smoking because of their jobs and random testing. It just shows you've matured to the point where you have your priorities in the correct order.

Oldfart - They don't really need to test you because they can use the old 'sobriety' test, and we all know how rigged that is, eh? You can catch a DUI for being stoned while driving. Also, I'm not sure if you realize that some states have a 'marijuana tax stamp' law in effect. Therein lies the catch 22... I'm fairly sure it was an old law not intended to be used the way it is now... IIRC, when you're busted for distribution/cultivation in those states, they tax you according to a certain weight (I think it's like $22/per ounce or something), in addition to the fines and what have you. It's really some piece of work...

pinkFlames - Yeppers, along with random traffic stops for 'broken taillights' and other ridiculous traffic offenses. 'Speed' traps aren't fun, either. lol

To all who've mentioned Cheech and Chong... I love those guys. Those guys are hilarious. And just like Jessica Simpson, Tommy Chong only played a dumb guy. He's actually a fairly intelligent guy. =) The verdict's still out on Jessica though... ;)

It's nice to see that there's a few supporters of decriminalization/legalization here. Here's a little about me... Back in '01, I was arrested for possession of marijuana because some kid got caught underage drinking so he ratted on me to try to get his charge thrown out. Well, he told them that I had 'pounds' of herb and hundreds of 'X' tabs... Mind you, I was just a poor college kid fresh out the Army... lol Well, when they came through with their search warrant and dog, after a long hour of searching, they only found 1.8 grams of herb on me (I had just bought a bag with a friend which we split). When it was time for court, they tried to give me a distribution sentence for possession. The Judge (who was a 'Nam Vet) actually laughed at them and said, 'How can you give this guy a distribution sentence when you've arrested him for possession?' I've never been the type to shirk my responsibility, so I pleaded guilty to possession, after all, I was in possession of some herb. If it hadn't been for that Judge taking care of a fellow veteran, I could've ended up as another statistic. Too much injustice takes place in our legal system. Seems to me they need to be catching the real criminals. Oh well, I guess that's enough from me... lol /end_rant

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Irish
01-16-2009, 12:16 PM
Yesterday,the 15th,was 14yrs7mo,since I quit Alcohol or any other drugs!I
used to do alot of drinking & smoking & growing "pot".I operated & owned
two different motorcycle shops & have lived the biker lifestyle since my
teenage yrs (64 now).Quitting was my own dicision!Anyone else can do as
they wish.I was basing everything that I did on booze & drugs!I drank,smoked
,& popped pills constantly.I got "speed" free,from my motorcycle "friends".
It's amazing how many less friends,that you have,when they know that
there are no drugs at your house.I think that I'm easily addicted(at least
mentally)so I just don't do anything(except sex)anymore.A sexual addiction
is alright! Irish :nod:
P.S.I never did any "hard" drugs,except coke,one time, when it was free,just
to try it,to satisfy my curiousity!
As I told my wife-They don't make "Bikers" anymore,just motorcycle enthusiasts(Weekend Warriors)The type that put on a leather jacket &
think that they're a "Biker".

Rhiannon
01-16-2009, 02:22 PM
funny you should ask..
NEver have and i will be 50 this march

Fangtasia
01-16-2009, 05:26 PM
I smoked LOTS when i was younger for many years. Havent touched it for ages now though. The fact i would now have to pay for it *L* turns me off big time. And i think i killed quite enough brain cells back then to be tempted to try it now.

We drove when high too, had to get the muchies somewhere *L*

lakritze
01-20-2009, 04:18 PM
It's HIGH time to legalize 420...24/7. Of all the medicine cabinet of the 60's culture,the only thing I ever used was 420. Oh yes,and it's chocolate cousin hashish.