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Neige
01-26-2008, 11:32 AM
Hi Lurkers!!!!!

Y'know, I was being all math-y this morning... And did you folks know that out of our 23 429 members, only 4919 have ever posted even once!!! That's only about 21% of members!!!

So to the nearly 4 out of 5 people who join but never say a word... Hi!!! And please don't be shy, say hi back! :D

PantyFanatic
01-26-2008, 12:22 PM
:wave:



Oh :o I thought you said "lickers".

Scarecrow
01-26-2008, 03:04 PM
Just a few more facts on posting;

1,490 people have posted between 10 - 99 posts

604 people have posted 100+ post

I will add my hello to all those non posting members

PantyFanatic
01-26-2008, 03:42 PM
Interesting (http://www.pixies-place.com:81/forums/showthread.php?t=12532), isn't it? :nod:

jseal
01-26-2008, 03:52 PM
Yes. It is. :nod:

wyndhy
01-26-2008, 04:41 PM
come one, come all :D

Booger
01-26-2008, 05:11 PM
Interesting (http://www.pixies-place.com:81/forums/showthread.php?t=12532), isn't it? :nod:




I knew there was a reason I thought Neige was channeling PF.

Oldfart
01-26-2008, 06:38 PM
Nah, she was just doing a number on him.

PantyFanatic
01-26-2008, 06:46 PM
:rofl:

Lilith
01-26-2008, 07:26 PM
How many users do you think have visited in the last 24 hours?

Neige
01-26-2008, 07:44 PM
That sounds like data you should have access to, Lil.

Lilith
01-26-2008, 07:53 PM
I'm curious what people would guess

Salacious
01-26-2008, 08:03 PM
Probably a whole bunch... mostly lurkers. *nods*

Neige
01-26-2008, 08:04 PM
I would guess around 200.

Lilith
01-26-2008, 08:07 PM
you are good. Currently we are averaging about 200 with no advertising.

dicksbro
02-03-2008, 06:50 AM
I certainly wish more "lurkers" would jump in and post so we can get to know them (by their nicknames, so their real identities are masked) and I do wish some of the formerly frequent posters would come back and visit us more often. They are missed.

I wish if anyone knew why some have faded away ... that they'd tell us (or at least the mods) in case there is anything we could do to keep them active in the family.

There, I've rattled on long enough.

lizzardbits
02-03-2008, 09:50 AM
I know that my posts are super infrequent in the last 6 months or so..my bad. I got super involved with a natural parenting site and now it has slowed down now that all of the posters have had their newest bundles of joy and are busy caring for them. I have also rediscovered the joy of blogging now that Baby Mayhem is here.

Mayhem and I still visit Pixies either every other day or every day just to see if all of our friends are ok. We are also starting on our 184376591832458764351487650183 forms and paperwork that we need to do so that we can move to America now that Baby Mayhem is born. So we are still around, we are ok, and hopefully soon we'll be back to posting again.

Lilith
02-03-2008, 10:33 AM
I think for many, life gets busy and time for pleasure especially self-pleasure wanes. People typically leave because of what's going on with them, not because of something here. There are a few previously active members who still pop by. Some are invisible so they can see us and make sure we are still here when/in case they need us. Some drop me a PM, some don't.

For me, I think that Pixies is like a relationship in and of itself. It's like a relationship with a group of people and some people are into long term relationships and some are just in it for the short haul.

More conversation, more posting comes from just that. People who do come here regularly posting on a wide variety of topics, starting their own new threads will inspire new or lurking members to feel comfortable chatting. We get complacent and stop contributing.

ReaperWoman
02-03-2008, 08:23 PM
I'm still a relatively new member and one that's been pretty inactive the last 6 months or so, but I love this site. I just don't always get the opportunity to come visit more often.

Glad I've made it into the 604 people that have posted more than 100 times though! ;)

PantyFanatic
02-03-2008, 09:07 PM
And it looks like your next post will be the next magnitude of 100. :cheerlead

sodaklostsoul
03-03-2008, 11:11 AM
Hi Lurkers!!!!!

wxyz_1234
03-10-2008, 06:32 PM
Stop taunting us. I hardly ever post here because some people are so damn nasty. If they can't win a fight or if you don't vote their way or if youre Christian they beat on you until you quit. Ive been here long enough to see it happen to Irish and cowgirltease and others. That's no way for adults to behave. When you start acting like adults maybe you'll get more adults posting at your site.

Start a thread and get trashed? fuggedaboutit.

Lilith
03-10-2008, 06:42 PM
You know how to not access us right?

Raphael2007
03-10-2008, 06:44 PM
hmm i can't say anyone has actively been nasty to me here

Lilith
03-10-2008, 06:45 PM
are you disappointed? :p

Raphael2007
03-10-2008, 07:05 PM
are you disappointed? :p
lol.... noooo :)

my main problem is that when i am here virtually no one else is for any length of time, but thats just life i guess :)

Lilith
03-10-2008, 07:10 PM
With the UK and the US having a 5 hour time difference it is very common that UK peeps are logging on while the US peeps are commuting home and having dinner etc.

Raphael2007
03-10-2008, 07:19 PM
With the UK and the US having a 5 hour time difference it is very common that UK peeps are logging on while the US peeps are commuting home and having dinner etc.

yes, i am used to it now and tend to do other things between posts.. if you hadn't noticed!

fzzy
03-10-2008, 07:29 PM
It's always interesting to me to see how differently people view what's happening around them.

For me, I know that I've frequently made comments on the boards about being highly conservative in my viewpoint and am also very involved in my religious beliefs ... I've seen others here who are as well and if memory serves me correctly, one or more of the current moderators has talked about having Christian affiliations and is/are regular attenders at their church. I've never felt that my thoughts, opinions or stories have been treated negatively and I hope that I have never treated anyone else badly based on their beliefs -- though sometimes I confess I have made the odd negative remark to someone who seems like they are not playing nice! :D

I'm sad to think that someone would get such a negative perspective from what has always been a wonderfully positive place for me.

IowaMan
03-10-2008, 07:43 PM
Stop taunting us. I hardly ever post here because some people are so damn nasty. If they can't win a fight or if you don't vote their way or if youre Christian they beat on you until you quit. Ive been here long enough to see it happen to Irish and cowgirltease and others. That's no way for adults to behave. When you start acting like adults maybe you'll get more adults posting at your site.

Start a thread and get trashed? fuggedaboutit.
Am I the only one who got this sent to them as a PM as well?

I'm hoping wxyz_1234 doesn't feel that I've treated them in such a manner.

PantyFanatic
03-10-2008, 07:45 PM
Stop taunting us. I hardly ever post here because some people are so damn nasty. If they can't win a fight .......

I assume other Pixies also received PM copies of your post which left me bewildered until I spotted your thread. I'm still unclear to what your issue is, but if having a thought or opinion that isn't the same as yours is what you consider "taunting", "nasty" "a fight" or "getting trashed, I guess you are right. :shrug:

As for having respect for a different prospective, my buddy Irish knows he has it from me even though we have our sights mounted different guns. That's why he has the balls to states his piece in a post with his name on it and doesn't cower in the bushes with a today-registration ID and throw garbage at people. Until that changes I will "fuggedaboutit". :wave:

Lilith
03-10-2008, 07:49 PM
Am I the only one who got this sent to them as a PM as well?

I'm hoping wxyz_1234 doesn't feel that I've treated them in such a manner.

No, they sent it around.

Pita
03-10-2008, 07:55 PM
Am I the only one who got this sent to them as a PM as well?

I'm hoping wxyz_1234 doesn't feel that I've treated them in such a manner.

Yeah, I got the PM as well. Seriously, I don't get someone who never participates thinking they understand how we treat each other around here. I've been on many forums and there is no place that has the amount of respect that Pixies have for each other. If you think this place is mean and nasty then you better keep out of public forums all together. I'm a Christian and you should see the mud that gets thrown around on my ubber-conservative Christian board. On Pixies, I state my mind without problems. Perhaps that because respect gets you respect back. :huh:

Plus, I get to flirt outrageously without harassment....unless I'm into that sort of thing. ;)

AZRedHot
03-10-2008, 08:07 PM
I got it, too. I didn't know we could spam our fellow Pixies. I'm not sure I wanted to know that. And I have to say, I was so disappointed. It's always a treat to have a PM from someone here whom I know, or who wants to compliment my pictures. This was just a troll.

Back under yer bridge, me lad.

Rhiannon
03-10-2008, 08:16 PM
Good i was wondering why i got the post too.. jeez pixie people have been nothing but kind to me so that is why i was shocked by it.

Sharni
03-10-2008, 08:32 PM
Stop taunting us. I hardly ever post here because some people are so damn nasty. If they can't win a fight or if you don't vote their way or if youre Christian they beat on you until you quit. Ive been here long enough to see it happen to Irish and cowgirltease and others. That's no way for adults to behave. When you start acting like adults maybe you'll get more adults posting at your site.

Start a thread and get trashed? fuggedaboutit.
Geez, ya make me search out this post so i could figure out what the devil ya talking about.

If you cannot see that this is one of the best sites around, most here are treated as family, then this is definately not the place for you!

What you perceive as nastiness is probably two friends dissing each other in fun, only because you dont actually post and get to know members, you think they are serious. Sure we have some tiffs, but certainly no worse than you can get in the real world. Most build a bridge and get over it in time, and if they cant do it themselves, they get booted over it.

Nasty, fuck, you dont know what nasty is mate! I've been an active member since the light turned on mate and I havent seen any true nasty for yonks, and dammit if i aint in the mood for some.

rabbit
03-10-2008, 08:58 PM
Yeah, I got the PM as well. Seriously, I don't get someone who never participates thinking they understand how we treat each other around here. I've been on many forums and there is no place that has the amount of respect that Pixies have for each other. If you think this place is mean and nasty then you better keep out of public forums all together. I'm a Christian and you should see the mud that gets thrown around on my ubber-conservative Christian board. On Pixies, I state my mind without problems. Perhaps that because respect gets you respect back. :huh:

Plus, I get to flirt outrageously without harassment....unless I'm into that sort of thing. ;)



What she said!!!!

Scarecrow
03-10-2008, 09:57 PM
I think we have a spammer or plain old trouble maker.

1nutworld
03-10-2008, 10:13 PM
Am I the only one who got this sent to them as a PM as well?

I'm hoping wxyz_1234 doesn't feel that I've treated them in such a manner.

I got one (a PM) as well, and wondered what caused it. Anyone got a clue?

sodaklostsoul
03-10-2008, 10:19 PM
I didn't get PM.......................does that mean I haven't pissed someone off enough.?
:D

(I could work on that) *snicker*

PantyFanatic
03-10-2008, 10:55 PM
I got one (a PM) as well, and wondered what caused it. Anyone got a clue?
Ethnocentrism
(a contagious condition of the Pharisees)

dicksbro
03-11-2008, 02:58 AM
Got the same PM and not sure what prompted the person to send it. Either they're just being negative (?) or there's something in particular that's really bothering them. If that's the case, it's too bad they didn't spell it out so it could be discussed.

Oldfart
03-11-2008, 03:47 AM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I missed out on the PM.

I have argued, sometimes harsher than others, with a few here, but I still count these

people as my friends and hope to see as many as possible at PAGAN08.

There is often heat here of several flavours, but it seems to be the strangers who

get nasty.

LixyChick
03-11-2008, 04:38 AM
Stop taunting us. I hardly ever post here because some people are so damn nasty. If they can't win a fight or if you don't vote their way or if youre Christian they beat on you until you quit. Ive been here long enough to see it happen to Irish and cowgirltease and others. That's no way for adults to behave. When you start acting like adults maybe you'll get more adults posting at your site.

Start a thread and get trashed? fuggedaboutit.
Hmmmmm????

This exact post was in my PM box this morning. I thought it was directed at me. I went straight to my PM box before I saw any of the threads this morning. I responded with confused questions.

Lilith
03-11-2008, 05:01 AM
Yep! Lots of attention seeking. I see it in 10 year olds all day. I am sorry that this person felt the need to misuse our PM system.

Casperr
03-11-2008, 07:11 AM
As for having respect for a different prospective, my buddy Irish knows he has it from me even though we have our sights mounted different guns. That's why he has the balls to states his piece in a post with his name on it and doesn't cower in the bushes with a today-registration ID and throw garbage at people. Until that changes I will "fuggedaboutit". :wave:

I agrees with PF's post!

And yes, I also got the PM which made me feel all warm and fuzzy - ZOMG someone sent me a PM! - and then I read it and was just all confused, and slightly unsatisfied.

But it's ok, cos I saw this thread (http://www.pixies-place.com:81/forums/showthread.php?t=32633) and it's got HEAPS of posts by Neige in it. So I got to see her avatar like heaps and heaps, and now I'm satisfied. :D
Thanks Neige! Hottie!

Oh and Hi Lurkers!
:spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin:
^^^ Naked cartwheels!

moose
03-11-2008, 08:37 AM
i would like to add my 2 cents worth if i may, i have been lurking here for quite some time and the reason i lurk is because i feel that even when i join in a conversation i am left out of it and my posts go unanswered.
now to be fair this could just be me not adding anything useful to the conversation or maybe just my perception but wrong or right this is how i feel.
I would also like add that if we all shared the same opinions and beliefs then we would just be talking to ourself, thank god we are all different i couldnt stand talking to another me

wyndhy
03-11-2008, 09:39 AM
i got one. made me chuckle. especially after reading an article titled jerks of the web on msn that hubby sent me today. anonymous whining. scary stuff.

we're not taunting. it's no joke or mock invitation. no bait and switch just to get someone to contribute so we can knock them down. we genuinely want people to post and say hi and let us get to know them as they get to know us. if you are afraid of someone disagreeing with you, i have no advice - life is full of adversity. if you are afraid of someone being nasty - again, i have no advice, the world is full of jerks. if i went through life worrying about whether or not people agreed with me or whether they may get nasty if they didn't like my opinion, i might decide to disguise myself and send whiney warnings to people too. but i do wish you could have felt secure enough to come out and give us an honest shot at getting to know you and understanding your reluctance to post instead of deciding to PM people with generalized complaints. you're words "stop taunting us" indicate that you've been appointed by others to speak on their behalf, but some how i doubt it. you also failed to notice that for every one person who chose to bail at the first sign of adversity or heated disagreement, there are at least 20 who didn't. i cannot hold myself responsible for the thin skin of other people. i will not hold back an opinion because i am worried someone will disagree or get their feelings hurt. i will not apologize for my opinions. i also try to never make it personal. this applies on-line and off.

like moose said, good thing we're all different, otherwise life would be boring indeed.

perhaps you should take your own advice, wxyz and begin acting like an adult. take responsibility for your own opinions and actions and don't be afraid to share them.

scotzoidman
03-11-2008, 12:11 PM
Also got the mystery PM. I suppose I should feel flattered in some way. I would agree, that this is still the nicest people forum I've seen anywhere. Sure, we don't hesitate to take someone to task if we have a strong difference of opinion, & we've had a few tantrums when someone thinks they're not getting their way, but even a cursory browse thru any other forum on the net proves to me that Pixies is king when it comes to adult, open-minded, no-flame-allowed, discussion of whatever is on your mind.

...usually it's sex, right?

Casperr
03-11-2008, 03:12 PM
Pixies is king when it comes to adult, open-minded, no-flame-allowed, discussion of whatever is on your mind.

...usually it's sex, right?
You know me so well!

And I know how you feel, moose - I've beeen a "Thread Killer" too many times to count! I always post something in a thread and then just watch the thread slip off the radar again.... the Casper Kiss Of Death I call it.

On the internet, best not to take things personally. :)

Oldfart
03-11-2008, 04:22 PM
Was this a demand that we just fall into step with wxyz1234 and his friends?

This is a community, and the same dynamics exist here as in the outside world. Clubs, towns or states take on a texture that you either go along with, work quietly to guide into a more acceptable (to you) flavour, or you emigrate to a different forum.

I am unsure who is holding a gun at your heads to make you stay somewhere you aren't comfortable.

Mods, did wxyz1234 happen to share an IP with any known dissidents?

smithy020
03-11-2008, 04:29 PM
I got that PM too, just deleted it.....

dm383
03-11-2008, 05:33 PM
You know me so well!

And I know how you feel, moose - I've beeen a "Thread Killer" too many times to count! I always post something in a thread and then just watch the thread slip off the radar again.... the Casper Kiss Of Death I call it.

On the internet, best not to take things personally. :)

I think anyone who's posted a lot here (i.e. more than say a dozen times!!) has "killed" a thread - I know I have! But if you look at threads that have "died", I think you'll find in a goodly proportion of them the last post was by one of our more prolific posters. To me, that just goes with the territory, and we shouldn't take it personally.

Re the PM - I rpelied to it too, so it'll be interesting to see if a reply to my reply is forthcoming.

(I think I just confused myself!!!)

DM

Lilith
03-11-2008, 06:26 PM
Love you guys and love the lurkers too.

jseal
03-11-2008, 06:35 PM
wxyz_1234,

While I may be more sympathetic to your criticism than some, I am unsure that your post was the best way to effect change. As Oldfart pointed out, Pixies is a community. As I read through the posts following yours, I see the community members closing ranks in the face of a threat, and your post is a threat.

You have told Pixies Place posters that we are doing it wrong. I must disagree with you. I can not and have not visited enough other sites “like” Pixies to be able to claim some sort of global knowledge, but I have visited more sedate sites, and more rowdy sites – one in particular. Some of the posts at that site were nastier that those you will see used by members at members here. That is why I no longer go there.

I also question your decision to send the PMs. They seem to have been clones of your post. What was the idea behind that?

The reason that the people who post here continue to post here is that they get what they want here. If you have been a member long enough to remember the heyday of cowgirltease, you too must get some sustenance here, even if posts in some of the threads are be more intense than you prefer. Just a suggestion, but if/when you see some thread getting too harsh, leave it alone. Do not open it.

Pixies should be a place you want to visit, not an ordeal.

Aqua
03-11-2008, 07:47 PM
I think anyone who's posted a lot here (i.e. more than say a dozen times!!) has "killed" a thread - I know I have!
DM
I concur... it's happened to me as well. More than once. :nod:

Mae
03-11-2008, 08:11 PM
Hello. Been a few months since I've been here. Should I be considered a pseudo-lurker or a pseudo-member? :doorpeek:

IowaMan
03-11-2008, 08:35 PM
Hello. Been a few months since I've been here. Should I be considered a pseudo-lurker or a pseudo-member? :doorpeek:
Nope, you don't seem pseudo to me. :p

:wave:

How's things been Mae? Glad to see ya around! :nod:

Neige
03-11-2008, 08:50 PM
Hello. Been a few months since I've been here. Should I be considered a pseudo-lurker or a pseudo-member? :doorpeek:

Definitely a member. Plain and simple, no pseudo.

When I got the PM, I assumed it was directed at me since I had started this thread. When I came here and saw that tons of others had gotten it too, I was shocked... But I can't help but agree with jseal when he says...

If you have been a member long enough to remember the heyday of cowgirltease, you too must get some sustenance here, even if posts in some of the threads are be more intense than you prefer. Just a suggestion, but if/when you see some thread getting too harsh, leave it alone. Do not open it.

Oh, and :x: CasperTG!!!!!!! :D

Mae
03-11-2008, 09:26 PM
Thank you IowaMan and Neige. I'll be floating around a bit and getting reacquainted. Nice to be back. :)

Neige
03-11-2008, 09:28 PM
Nice to have you back too. ;)

GreenChef
03-11-2008, 10:13 PM
Hmm got it too
and I'm relatively new
(might have lurked for a while first myself)
but that was before I got to know people here and how friendly they all are
I have no clue what this person is talking about
but like most everyone is saying...
if you ain't happy leave...
or at least SPEAK
Communication is what separates us from the lower
(sometimes better mannered) species

PantyFanatic
03-11-2008, 10:28 PM
...... i feel that even when i join in a conversation i am left out of it and my posts go unanswered.
now to be fair this could just be me not adding anything useful to the conversation or maybe just my perception but wrong or right this is how i feel........
I think we've all been there. At first it's intimidating and you wonder what you're doing wrong. After a while I realized that sometimes I've come into a thread later and many of the thoughts (possible comments) I'd post has already been made. Other times I just take in all the post and am glad each interesting one was made that gives me some thought 'munchies'.

I don't expect every post to be either profound or titillating and often just enjoy the kibitzing and joking around. None of these non-responding factors detour my wanting to read my fellow Pixie's words, regardless what they are.

Bottom line,............... Just enjoy and post whenever you have a thought that you want to share with your friends. :)

sodaklostsoul
03-11-2008, 10:33 PM
I think we've all been there. At first it's intimidating and you wonder what you're doing wrong. After a while I realized that sometimes I've come into a thread later and many of the thoughts (possible comments) I'd post has already been made. Other times I just take in all the post and am glad each interesting one was made that gives me some thought 'munchies'.

I don't expect every post to be either profound or titillating and often just enjoy the kibitzing and joking around. None of these non-responding factors detour my wanting to read my fellow Pixie's words, regardless what they are.

Bottom line,............... Just enjoy and post whenever you have a thought that you want to share with your friends. :)
:nuts: Is that mean enough? :roflmao: :roflmao:

Mae
03-11-2008, 10:34 PM
Did I miss something? :huh:

sodaklostsoul
03-11-2008, 10:35 PM
Nope Mae, just my bad sense of being funny.

Mae
03-11-2008, 10:41 PM
Soda...no, you ARE funny. Good sense of humor. I've been gone a few months from the board. Guess I need to read a bit more. :)

Winston77
03-12-2008, 12:12 AM
All I can say is after getting that PM and reading this thread is
Children must play :)

Casperr
03-12-2008, 02:33 AM
Oh, and :x: CasperTG!!!!!!! :D


Oooooh!

THUD!



BTW Neige........ I kinda like your av!

moose
03-12-2008, 07:07 AM
And I know how you feel, moose - I've beeen a "Thread Killer" too many times to count! I always post something in a thread and then just watch the thread slip off the radar again.... the Casper Kiss Of Death I call it.:)


Thanks CasperTG funny way of looking at it

moose
03-12-2008, 07:09 AM
I think we've all been there. At first it's intimidating and you wonder what you're doing wrong. After a while I realized that sometimes I've come into a thread later and many of the thoughts (possible comments) I'd post has already been made. Other times I just take in all the post and am glad each interesting one was made that gives me some thought 'munchies'.

I don't expect every post to be either profound or titillating and often just enjoy the kibitzing and joking around. None of these non-responding factors detour my wanting to read my fellow Pixie's words, regardless what they are.

Bottom line,............... Just enjoy and post whenever you have a thought that you want to share with your friends. :)

PantyFanatic thank you for these words it helps a lot

Oldfart
03-12-2008, 07:55 AM
PF is right.

The moment you stop and think that you'd better not say something just in case someone won't like it, you've lost.

We have enough here with opposing views who are still happy to share thoughts without venom to fill a forum.

Be yourself and you'll either fit in or decide yourself to go somewhere you're happier. Either way you win.

scotzoidman
03-12-2008, 12:37 PM
Re the PM - I rpelied to it too, so it'll be interesting to see if a reply to my reply is forthcoming.

DM
Keep us (me) advised as to whether you get a response. The more I thought about it, the more I wanted to respond to it, to set the MF straight on how many ways he got it wrong...but I suspect this was a classic "hit & run" case, & we won't be hearing from this one again at anytime...

scotzoidman
03-12-2008, 12:49 PM
Hello. Been a few months since I've been here. Should I be considered a pseudo-lurker or a pseudo-member? :doorpeek:
Prodigal sons & daughters are always welcomed back into the fold. Having taken a lengthy sabbatical once myself due to circumcisions, oops, circumstances, beyond my control, I can testify the welcome back ceremony is a wonderful thing to experience :loveshowe

Winston77
03-12-2008, 02:57 PM
Nice to have you back too. ;)
I'd like to have your backside :)
Opps hijacked

CunningLinguist
03-23-2008, 10:41 PM
Hi, It was me. I'm the mean son of a bitch that got a personal message about how much of a jerk I am.

Or I thought it was personal. Anyways, I thought I did something special that someone had necroed from three years ago and wanted to post a LOL.

And well I would post that cute image of the frog saying "get out", but that is too much :effort:.

No seriously, this is a friendly forum. We don't have a whole subsection of emotes and image macros that all say "get out".

Can I post goatse here?

citrus
03-24-2008, 08:38 AM
:corn:
I lurked for about a half hour, Then I joined and have been constantly inconsistent since then. --as a poster



ps. yes, I received that mass mailing PM also. I think it was out of line coming from a one time poster. I responded with my own ?What? type of question

seminalfluid
03-24-2008, 08:55 PM
Just obtained the 100 post mark tonight!

Yeah to me; the pseudo-lurker!

:wave:

Oldfart
03-25-2008, 03:24 AM
Over the hurdle seminalfluid.

Watch how quickly the next thousand clock up.