Instruments

[Lilith]

Does anyone know anything about flutes? I need one and am thinking I'd rather buy than lease but have no earthly idea what to look for. I know some peeps here play a variety of instruments, I was hoping for some shopping advice.

[Neige]

I want a flute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But they are expensive.

I'm looking for a second hand one right now. I'd taken a few months of lessons about 2 years ago and would love to learn more.

When I was learning, I was playing a Gemeinhardt. Unfortunately, that flute belongs to my very stubborn grandmother (who can't bear the thought of her granddaughter taking her flute away to Montreal - nevermind that she hasn't played it in a decade...). Because that's what I learned on, that's what I'm looking for now, but I've heard that Armstrong flutes are good too. I am watching on eBay currently, there are quite a few, but I think that the prices there are high right now, since many people are looking for a flute for school.

Do you play, Lil?

[Lilith]

No. I was a classically trained pianist in my youth and would kill to have a piano in the house and take lessons again. But it is one of my kiddos who is in band who is going to play the flute. I'm a little worried about him getting razzed. You don't see a hell of a lot of boy flute players in the middle school ranks.

I too have been scouring eBay and am seeing that I can buy one there for the cost of about 1/2 a year of rentals. I sent Mr. Lil to the music store this morning and am staying home to look up everything he sees there online :D

[Booger]

When I first read you were looking for a flute Lilith I wonder if you were going to band camp.

[osuche]

PM flutelady -- she should be able to help you. And if you need her email addy, let me know and I will provide it. :)


Good luck, Lil. :x:

[PantyFanatic]

I think N.........N..N....Neeeige's :faint: comment, "but I think that the prices there are high right now, since many people are looking for a flute for school.", is the crux and you may want to just grab the one that is less than the rental for now and do your scouting until the time frame shifts. You'll still have less cash-out-of-pocket now and can through it in the closet if interest wanes.

I do know a 'flautist' :brows: ...... and can ask about entry level instrument recommendations.



(aren't you proud of our restraint from going for the skin flute puns? :D )

[Lilith]

OldFart has not posted yet :p


I bought one on eBay. :D I paid under $80 for a used good named student flute that is reported to have all its pieces working and no dents.

[Oldfart]

OldFart has not posted yet :p

I am shocked that you could say something like that. I would never ever post gratuitous references to a pork piccolo, a mouth organ or a grand bagpipe without the direst duress.

A goodlooking flautist will be a chick magnet if he works on it. Remind him you have no desire to become a granny, at least not for a long time.

[Lilith]

It is the little one who threatens to stow away in you and the Mrs. suitcase so he can go to Australia ;) that will be making my ears bleed until he gets the hang of it :D

[scotzoidman]

Lil, sorry I couldn't get back in time, but it might surprise you to find that I didn't stop with the purchase of a bass...I actually am the owner of 2 flutes...& at one time I could play a couple of tunes on them (my friend & I would tear it up on "Greensleeves" guitar/flute duet every xmas).

Looks like Neige already answered as well as I could have, Gemeinhardt is (or was) the Cadillac of flutes, at least that was what I was told at one time...Armstrong was more like a Chevy, not top of the line, but good enough for the average student. I'm not sure, but I think that's what my 2 flute brands are...they're buried in a closet somewhere. I bought both used from a bandmate, the first one (Armstrong) had a broken piece that kept the last 2 stops from flapping open too far, but didn't affect my playing that much...but it was enough that when the same guy was ready to sell me his low-end Gemeinhardt, I made the Armstrong into a lamp :)

Sounds like you made a good deal on Ebay, what was the "good named student flute" you got? Dent aren't usually a big deal on flutes, unless in an area where two pieces have to fit together...the biggest problem you may have when the flute gets there is that the pads may be old & dried out, not something an average layman (or beginner) can detect, but if the pads are bad they'll leak air & the every note will sound like an asthmatic steam engine (or something like that...suddenly the right metaphor escapes me)...the pads & springs can be replaced making it good as new, but the last time I checked, it was about $50 for the repair, & that was years ago....

[Lilith]

Gemeinhardt sp2 ;) no dents, the pads are fine supposedly, has some scratches

[scotzoidman]

Good deal then...scratches just add charactor ;)

Good luck to the young music student...I too hope he doesn't get razzed, in my day playing the flute or clarinet was strictly for sissies...kept me in the trumpet section...

(get the feeling that I just tried every instrument out there till I found the right one? yeh, something like that...)

[Lilith]

I'm afraid it still may be. :s

[Teddy Bear]

scotz: "it was about $50 for the repair, & that was years ago...."
Lil: For future reference just in case you need a repair check with the school music dept. first.

OF: "A goodlooking flautist will be a chick magnet if he works on it."
History repeats: The flute's primary purpose was to be used as a courting instrument for young men's use only. Traditionally, women never would touch a flute.
(Native American Flutes, stories and history)
http://www.spottedeagle.com/flutes.htm

There are more men flutists then I thought.

Jazz Flute Players
http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians-list/instrumentalists/flute/jazz.html

Famous Flutists
http://www.flutecorner.com/famousflutists.htm

And these pictures show all ages.
(Flute pictures & videos on Webshots)
http://www.webshots.com/search?query=flute

Looks like your young one is in good company Lil.

[Lilith]

Thanks Teddy!

[PantyFanatic]

It's nice to see one quickly move along to the 'DONE' list and know you are ahead of the herd even with a late start. :thumb:

[Lilith]

Too good to be true it seems. The asshole is pissing me off. His auction clearly stated he accepts PayPal and now despite it having already been sent, he says he does not accept it.

[Oldfart]

Is he holding out for more?

[PantyFanatic]

http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/index.html?_trksid=m37

[Lilith]

No. He is saying he does not accept PayPal and wants a check. I do not have time to mail a check to his location, wait for it to clear, and then wait for the item to arrive, hoping it's acceptable and as described. Is why I chose a seller who accepted PayPal.

[PantyFanatic]

Tell him AND eBay that. ;)


I think there is some kind of a 'warning/bitch board' on there too. Don't know any of the details of how to use it, but time is not available to go through 'procedure', you may want to open with both barrels.



(if you DO have to go the long way, a money order could cut out the clearing time) :shrug:

[Booger]

I would agree with PF and go with a money order it only is a little more and no need to wait for a check to clear.

I would be worried about giving out a personal check. To many scams that can be run with them.

[Lilith]

The problem is I need the flute in the mail Tuesday in order to have it on time. Which is why I paid for it 2 days ago.

[maddy]

Okay, i'm a bit of an ebay novice. Wouldn't the seller need to have paypal setup on the listing in order for you to have transferred payment already? If that's true how can the seller now deny accepting paypal? Sounds like a bad ebayer to me.

[sodaklostsoul]

Thanks for the thread Lilith, my girl wants to take flute in band next year.

Good Luck with the Ebay jerk!

[Lilith]

I emailed him and pointed out that his auction clearly says he accepts PayPal and I have not heard from him since. I've contacted eBay as to how to proceed.

[sodaklostsoul]

Hopefully he'll send you the flute!

[scotzoidman]

I emailed him and pointed out that his auction clearly says he accepts PayPal and I have not heard from him since. I've contacted eBay as to how to proceed.
And Ebay is responding with the lightening speed of molassass in February...

[Lilith]

Well I heard from eBay today. They wanted the email w/ headers that had him refusing to accept PayPal. I think I best go buy a new flute.

[WildIrish]

It sucks that you'll have to go get one after going through so much aggravation trying to ebay it, but at this point it's for the best. Now you don't have to worry about what kind of condition it will arrive in (if ever) and what that could entail.

Have you looked into music stores that may offer used instruments?

And if you're ever interested in taking up an instrument for yourself...I've got a flute right here you can use any time you like. ;)

[Lilith]

ha ha..Now eBay is fucking with me cause the seller did not email me from his eBay registered address.

[Lilith]

And I just realized that they are using the wrong seller ID. Dumbasses. I am completely surrounded by dumbasses.

[sodaklostsoul]

And I just realized that they are using the wrong seller ID. Dumbasses. I am completely surrounded by dumbasses.
:nod:

:D

[PantyFanatic]

There is no monopoly on stupidity

[wyndhy]

yup^^ i had a woman ask me if i was wearing a pink shirt because we're gonna have a girl.

[scotzoidman]

As a ebay seller myself, I can understand why some don't want to accept PayPal, it's convenient to buyers but a costly option for sellers, but the SOB says he accepts PP in the listing & won't take it, he's clearly in violation of ebay's policies...

...and soon to be "not a registered user", we hope...

[Lilith]

He's still registered and they have closed my case without telling me wtf to do or anything at all.

I guess I'm renting a flute tomorrow. He needs it Monday. Thanks for trying to help me.

[maddy]

I'm curious if you at least got your money back through PayPal?

[Lilith]

He never claimed the payment.

[scotzoidman]

He's still registered and they have closed my case without telling me wtf to do or anything at all.

I guess I'm renting a flute tomorrow. He needs it Monday. Thanks for trying to help me.
Let me get this straight...they let him show PayPal in his listing, yet not accept PayPal payments?

And they just slapped my hand & told me I can't say a book is "like new" (when there isn't a wrinkle on it), because that may be misleading...

I'm with you...Dumbass, completely totally surrounded by Dumbass...

[Lilith]

As the flute turns...

Now I get a CC of an email between he and eBay where he is saying he can not "collect" his PayPal payment and acting like I did not pay. I guess the dumbass doesn't know eBay owns PayPal and when you pay through the site it all has a trail. I forwarded the paid receipt from PayPal. Good thing I didn't stop the payment :D

[LixyChick]

Cheese and crackers...whatever happened with this?

[Lilith]

He acted like he was going to resolve the matter last week and I have not heard a word since.

[sodaklostsoul]

Lets go beat him up. :D

[wyndhy]

blanket party?

:D

[scotzoidman]

Maybe the Ebay way of beating him up, wait until the last possible moment to hit him with bad feedback so he can't retaliate...

[Lilith]

What is pissing me off is that he has the audacity to act like he is the one not being paid.

[Oldfart]

Stand on the audit trail.

[Lilith]

I now have possession of the fucking flute. It's in great shape. Instead of having to pay $83 for a flute, I had to pay $183. Because I had to rent one for two months while I waited for the SOB to do the right thing. BUTTTTT, in the end :D, it's a great flute.

[Aqua]

I now have possession of the fucking flute.
The flute fucks?

:wtp:

[Neige]

And this one time, at band camp, ...

[Oldfart]

"it's a great flute."


Lil,

I've been meaning to talk to you about that.

[sodaklostsoul]

I'm sure your child will get your money's worth out of it.

[WildIrish]

In honor of the conclusion of this long journey, please allow me to offer a blessing... "May your son's flute collect less dust than my son's drum set". :p

[Booger]

In honor of the conclusion of this long journey, please allow me to offer a blessing... "May your son's flute collect less dust than my son's drum set". :p


Wouldn't the fact that your son's drum set is collecting dust be a blessing to most.

[jseal]

The flute fucks?
Mozart wrote an opera about a magic flute. Perhaps this is a 21st century version?

[Aqua]

Mozart wrote an opera about a magic flute. Perhaps this is a 21st century version?
Oh, ayuh! I believe you may be correct. :D

[jseal]

Cum One! Cum All!
Pixies Palce presents ...
... for your Titillation and Carnal Delight!
:nana: :nana: :nana:
Die Fickenflöte!
:nana: :nana: :nana:
An Adult Opera In 3 Unnatural Acts!

[Oldfart]

Madama Buttons-flies?

[jseal]

Oldfart,

Any suggestions for casting the role of “Queen of the Night” in Die Fickenflöte?

[AZRedHot]

Cum One! Cum All!
Pixies Palce presents ...
... for your Titillation and Carnal Delight!
:nana: :nana: :nana:
Die Fickenflöte!
:nana: :nana: :nana:
An Adult Opera In 3 Unnatural Acts!


You are awesome, Jseal. Just sayin'.

And Lil, when I was a wee lass in the orchestra, playing my violin, I had a crush on Tim, the only male flautist in the orchestra. Of course it was 7th grade, so my feminine protowiles were nothing to speak of (still aren't; I still don't flirt well with strangers), so he never knew, but I didn't think he was a sissy.

[Lilith]

He's feeling successful with the flute and that is most of the battle with him. As for the ladies well, I'm ok for him not to become a Pied Piper.

[scotzoidman]

He's feeling successful with the flute and that is most of the battle with him.Good on him. I can relate...when I finally started to master a little bit of the various musical instruments I tried to learn, it was a life-changing event for me, mostly in my self-image. As for what this will do for him & the ladies, he'll be learning lip control that should come in handy some day...but if he'd taken up the trumpet instead, he'd have a nice little lip callous that might even be handier ;)

[PantyFanatic]

And the licorice stick and sax develop excellent tongue control :tongue:

[Lilith]

Ha ha ha . Jokes on me. His teacher just asked if he could try the French Horn. She needs one so bad she is giving him private lessons for free.

[PantyFanatic]

French horn? Is that the one you slide your fingers in the bottom and your lips against the hole? :confused:
















He'll LOVE it! :D

[Booger]

Did you ask her if she was going to give him a french horn to for free.

[Lilith]

She gave him a school one to use until he decides if he loves it enough to switch.

[wyndhy]

our PTA recently got a music store to donate some of their old instuments to the school. perhaps one near you could donate a set that had a french horn in it.:D

[Lilith]

The one he is using looks like it was run over by a semi :p

[Booger]

At least if it dosen't sound good when he plays it he has something to blame.

[Neige]

The one he is using looks like it was run over by a semi :p

:roflmao:

[scotzoidman]

Wow, now that's an odd switch...music teachers almost never ask anybody to move from the woodwinds to the brass section, or vice versa...normally it's sax, flutes, or clarinets move up to oboe or english horn (an ill wind that nobody blows good lol), trumpets & 'bones move to the F-horn, tuba, or Sousaphone...this should be interesting...

[Lilith]

It was... alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll weekend long.

[WildIrish]

What're the odds of it going back with more tire tracks on it? :p