Caution: Baby talk!

[Loulabelle]

Well with so many new and expectant Mums and Dads on the site, I thought it might be an idea to start up a 'baby talk' thread, so that we can keep it all in one place and away from all the people who aren't as interested in it as us - which is why I've put it in 'Advice' and not 'General Chat'.

Feel free to share the joys, triumphs, fears and doubts that parenthood brings, as well as any tips you have, or questions. I doubt that between us, there's no experience of childbirth/ childrearing we haven't had, as well as being able to recommend products/ techniques that have helped during pregnancy, breastfeeding, weaning, bottle feeding, sleepless nights etc.

To start off, I have to share that "Little Moo" rolled over from back to front for the first time ever while we were on holiday last week! He's growing up so fast!

[Lilith]

I remember how exciting it was when my guys rolled over. Fun times ahead!

[Teddy Bear]

They do grow up WAY too fast!!! Take lots of pictures! Remember every precious thing. My youngest is 20 but I still have vivid memories of breast feeding her, her tiny hand on my breast and she looked up at me and smiled. It was so sweet. :)

As they grow the best advice I ever got and I pass on is to talk 'with' them not 'at' them. Listen to what they have to say, they will both amaze and amuse you with the things they come out with.

[1nutworld]

When my son Ryan was about 4 he ran into the bathroom cause he had to, you know, and I had just gotten out of the shower, and he saw me and commented how " daddy was all naked-up".

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not exactly "baby talk" but........

[cherrypie7788]

I am so nervous and worried over so many things....is my kid going to be "normal", healthy, happy...most of all, I'm worried over bringing a little ME into the world :rolleyes:

My boyfriend and I looked at condos today. I have the option of either moving back to TN or staying here. Honestly, I'd be better off going back to TN because I have a house there...but I'm away from him :sad: I have to try to take things one day at a time, because I'm already feeling so overwhelmed and I'm only two months along.

[Loulabelle]

((((Cherrypie))))))

My best advice to you is this: pregnancy gets easier around the 2nd trimester - you'll be less tired and less neurotic, plus other people actually only start treating you like you're actually pregnant once they can see it (annoyingly, because you feel like you want to be treated with kid gloves at this stage and later you'll feel back to your old self again).

I got all my worrying about the birth over with early on, so by the time I was close to giving birth I was pretty accepting of all the possibilities and the thought of going into hospital etc. I know friends who didn't let themselves think about it until a fortnight before, and then panicked. I wouldn't recommend that approach as getting your head right makes the whole experience so much better.

As for 'will my baby be normal'? Every mother worries about that but the stats say that 97% of babies in the UK are born completely normal (I imagine the figures are very similar for the US too) so don't get too terrified by the 'doing x when you're pregnant will cause your baby to be y' but be sensible - give up smoking if you do, limit alcohol to a small amount on special occasions, don't do recreational drugs and eat healthily. You can't do more than that at this stage.

The fact that you're worrying about these things, is the first sign that you're going to be an excellent Mother, but try to keep things in perspective.

[txgrneyes]

I am so nervous and worried over so many things....is my kid going to be "normal", healthy, happy...most of all, I'm worried over bringing a little ME into the world :rolleyes:

My boyfriend and I looked at condos today. I have the option of either moving back to TN or staying here. Honestly, I'd be better off going back to TN because I have a house there...but I'm away from him :sad: I have to try to take things one day at a time, because I'm already feeling so overwhelmed and I'm only two months along.


Is it not an option for him to move with you? I know that is a hard decision but if you do move my advised is think about what is best for you and your baby. oh congrats by the way. And to be honest with you it is not that difficult to be away from someone that you love when your pregnant. This is from experience. I walked out on my ex husband (due to his cheating) when I was 3 weeks pregnant and with an 18 month old in tow also. I was so upset but worrying if I had the flu and taking care of a toddler kept my mind at peace. Then when I really found out I was pregnant well I was so caught up in that so it made it easier because I wasn't always wondering where he was or what he was doing. I know my situation is diffrent than yours but I would at least talk with him about it. Moving that is.

Again...my best advise is to do what is best for you and the baby.

And also even though things are fine now...get custody papers as soon as you can. Just in case something happens later on. Working at the PD I see alot of boyfriend/girlfriend situation and that end up spliting after they have the kid. It then gets ugly and hateful instead of what is best for the kid.

But most of all enjoy it. Make memories. And treat yourself like a queen for the next nine months.

Natalie

[cherrypie7788]

Thanks lou and tx....

I am trying to decide what kind of birth to have at this point...natural, water, etc. Water birth seems very plausible to me..But I'm not stressing over it I guess :sad: lol

At this point, it is not an option for my boyfriend to move because of his job. He works on a boat here and has a great salary...so if I go to TN I will be alone until August when his contract runs out and he can get a job in TN. That's all that stops us from both packing up and moving.

I am in such a bitchy mood tonight. I'm ready to rip heads off and toss 'em aside :yikes: I hate feeling this way too, especially since I really have no reason to feel like this. :huh:

[Loulabelle]

Just remember Cherrypie, that you may not get all that much choice on what kind of birth you have in the end. I wanted to be in the water but was induced and warned that I couldn't have a water birth because my waters might need to be broken, I might need an IV etc. However in the end, I didn't need any of those things, but my labour was so damned quick they wouldn't have had time to fill the pool up and in the end I needed an episiotomy so I'd have been hauled out of the water at that point anyway!

While I was pregnant, I had 5 other pregnant friends: only two of us gave birth naturally, one was an elective casear and the other 3 were emergency sections. With the exception of the friend who elected to have a section, the rest of us all were really hoping to give birth naturally without epidurals etc.

My advice, is to get your head around the fact that you're going to have to be flexible and that things might not go your way. That way, if it all goes awry from your birth plan you won't be left feeling totally out of control and traumatised by your experience and remember that just because some aspects of your birth plan don't go the way you want, doesn't mean they all have to. Skin to skin contact, for example is usually achievable, no matter what the circumstances and is really helpful in bonding and establishing breastfeeding.

[cherrypie7788]

Thanks Loulabelle. I'm trying to come to terms with not being in control. Sadly I'm one of those girls that must have control over everything in her life...but I realize this is one thing that I probably wont have control over. Oh well. Tub of water, hospital bed, front seat of SUV it's all the same I guess :p LOL

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I think I found the perfect apartment for us today. It's 3 bedroom, 1.5 bath, 1400 square feet. We are used to having our space..and we have tons of stuff. I went and took a tour of the place today. It's very nice, it has good security which I like. If I'm going to be living in New Orleans by myself most of the time I think it's a necessary "luxury" to live in a gated community with 24 hour security. Maybe I'm being paranoid but better safe than sorry I say.

It's sad but if we are approved (and I'm positive we will be) for this apartment my boyfriend wont even see it until next weekend and wont be able to sign the lease until then. Not that it matters. But I feel like I am doing this all alone.

[sodaklostsoul]

Just got this in my email today.......thought I would share. :)

Before I was a Mom
I never tripped over toys or forgot words to a lullaby.
I didn't worry whether or not my plants were poisonous.
I never thought about immunizations.

Before I was a Mom - I had never been puked on.
Pooped on.
Chewed on.
Peed on.
I had complete control of my mind and my thoughts.
I slept all night.

Before I was a Mom
I never held down a screaming child so doctors could do tests.
Or give shots.
I never looked into teary eyes and cried.
I never got gloriously happy over a simple grin.
I never sat up late hours at night watching a baby sleep.

Before I was a Mom
I never held a sleeping baby just because I didn't want to
put them down.
I never felt my heart break into a million pieces when I
couldn't stop the hurt.
I never knew that something so small could affect my life so much.
I never knew that I could love someone so much.
I never knew I would love being a Mom.

Before I was a Mom -
I didn't know the feeling of having my heart outside my body.
I didn't know how special it could feel to feed a hungry baby.
I didn't know that bond between a mother and her child.
I didn't know that something so small could make me feel so
important and happy.

Before I was a Mom -
I had never gotten up in the middle of the night every
10 minutes to make sure all was okay.
I had never known the warmth, the joy, the love, the heartache,
the wonderment or the satisfaction of being a Mom.
I didn't know I was capable of feeling so much, before I was a Mom.

[lizzardbits]

Oh Soda, that made me cry!

*sniff sniff* darn these pregnancy hormones!

[Lilith]

I found all of you babysitters (http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0704/gallery.sumo.crying.babies/frameset.exclude.html)

[sodaklostsoul]

That sleeping one would be me.

Thanks Lilith.

[Booger]

I found all of you babysitters (http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0704/gallery.sumo.crying.babies/frameset.exclude.html)


But if they sat on the baby wouldn't they squish them?

[mikaylasmummy]

Soda that was really sweet.... I am all teary now

Oh my I never saw this thread before..
I am a mum of a 3 month old, and my it still feels like that we brought Mikayla home yesturday next thing we will know she will be a yr old.. oh fun times ahead.. I so wish I could show you all a pic of here. I am going overborad with photos I think I am taking like 50 a day I am not obsessed though :)

I just love seeing my baby. Her 1st oficila smile was about a month ago, and she has already started teething, putting her tiny little finger on her bottle when she is being fed watching t.v, geting very clingy...
I could go on but enough for now, before I cry some more thinking about how small she is...

[Loulabelle]

That's because it's new mikaylasmummy! :D

I've been introducing my little one to world of solid foods for the last couple of weeks (yes I know he's not yet six months but there was no way he was going to wait that long - he was getting increasinly grizzly and dissatisfied with the 'all milk' diet).

I was really scared about starting it, since his father is a massively fussy eater and I was worried it might somehow run in the family, however so far he's done so well and there's been nothing that he's really hated.

Surprising successes have included last night's supper: spinach mixed with banana (something my health visitor recommended) which was bright green in colour but tasted entirely like banana and not at all like spinach! As long as I can get some iron rich food in him somehow, I'm more than happy to keep disguising the taste of it with fruit for as long as necessary!

[IowaMan]

Surprising successes have included last night's supper: spinach mixed with banana (something my health visitor recommended) which was bright green in colour but tasted entirely like banana and not at all like spinach!
Had the discussion with my mom a few times about what I was like as a baby and she told me that the mixed nanas and spinach was my absolute favorite. :thumb:

[cherrypie7788]

I will have to remember mixed banana and spinach. Someone else told me that I could crush up cereal (like chex) really finely and add it to his/her milk later on when they started getting fussy and that would help.

[Lilith]

Ummm cherry, I think they mean baby food rice cereal can be added to a milk bottle later.

[cherrypie7788]

I dont know, he said chex. lol

I thought it was a little weird but I think he meant when they were much older than that, like 2 or so. He said he tried it with his son and it worked. But, like I said, that's just what I was told.

[rabbit]

Ummm cherry, I think they mean baby food rice cereal can be added to a milk bottle later.



Yes, Lil's got it right. at some point it may be necessary as the baby won't be satisfied with just milk/formula. It also helps them to sleep through the night.

[wyndhy]

i did that with mine...the baby cereal, not the cereal cereal ... and when they were little little, not 2 years old little. my kids were off the ba by two, i was a ba-ba nazi. NO BA FOR YOU! :p anyway, just a pinch is all it takes to get that extra hour or two of sleep.


today at the grocers
the boy: santa is like super man!
me: yup! he's a good guy! plus he wears red!
the boy: noooooo...he's 'tend.
:roflmao:

[Loulabelle]

Rabbit, of course it's OK for Dads to post too! We are equal opportunists around here!!!

It's just that in general women tend to be more interested and most men would rather not hear about the harsh realities of childbirth etc!

[mikaylasmummy]

WYNDHY: sorry hun I do not get it, please don't laugh at me... lol

[mikaylasmummy]

Mikayla has been sleeping most of the day last night she went to sleep at about 8pm woke up at 4am for a change and feed went straight back to sleep, then woke at 11 same thing and went to sleep woke up at 6pm same thing and now she is asleep again...

Oh my is this normal for a 3 month old to sleep so much? I feel like I am missing out on spending her baby days with her

[cherrypie7788]

MM, I think babies do sleep a lot. Just wait till she turns 2-3. You'll be wishing she slept more :rofl:

I go to the doctor on Friday for my checkup and my man is coming in town that day too. Woohoo!! He's going to sign the lease and then I guess it'll be mostly up to me to pack us up and have us moved :(

[wyndhy]

if i remember correctly, a 3 month old should sleep about 15 hours a day, give or take. that's not to say some days won't be more. my kids would eat like horses for a week, then sleep tons for a week and the next thing i knew, their clothes were too small. growth spurt. tell your pediatrician if you're concerned.

[cherrypie7788]

Someone please tell me these mood swings get better. I totally need a hug right now, but I need a chill pill first. lol

It started earlier with my cousin's girlfriend talking about how when SHE gets pregnant she's going to do this and she's going to do that and I should be doing this and blah blah fucking blah. I told her that when she got pregnant THEN she could come and give me advice and until then, I wouldn't be getting my advice from HER :argue: so she left and my cousin got mad.
Then I apologized and he got over, and we decided to play some PS2 and he kept beating me at our racing game... Which made me mad again :shrug:

I realized what a twat I was being about the whole situation, and what I had to be thankful for, and my mood considerably changed for the better. But then I started thinking about my boyfriend and how often I DON'T get to see him, and how I'm going to have to basically swing the move without him and I broke down and started crying.

All the while my cousin is trying his best to console me without making it worse and getting more frustrated by the second :banghead: so I left and drove around for a little while.....which was probably not the smartest move but it made me feel better...

:wobbly:

Sorry for that, I'm sure it was hard to follow..

[mikaylasmummy]

Someone please tell me these mood swings get better. I totally need a hug right now, but I need a chill pill first. lol

It started earlier with my cousin's girlfriend talking about how when SHE gets pregnant she's going to do this and she's going to do that and I should be doing this and blah blah fucking blah. I told her that when she got pregnant THEN she could come and give me advice and until then, I wouldn't be getting my advice from HER :argue:

The thing that I can never understand is that people who do not have kids themselves do not understand what it's like yeah they may babysit for there friends but it's not the same as having them yourselves.
When my friends and even family do this to me I just politly agree, saying yes thankyou, good idea, but never do it, at the end of the day only you know what is right for you baby and no-one else. be strong things will get better.
Yoy have no reason to feel bad about how you spoke to your friend I have spoken to my mum like that and she kinda back off now she alot better with Mikayla and how I raise her..
Good Luck, if you even need to chat pm me

[rabbit]

Rabbit, of course it's OK for Dads to post too! We are equal opportunists around here!!!



:x:

[Steph]

The thing that I can never understand is that people who do not have kids themselves do not understand what it's like

A co-worker had tears running down her face when I said I'd really like to have no TV in my house when/if I had kids. :)

She made me stop talking when I mentioned cloth diapers. She was finding it hard to breathe through her howls of laughter. :shrug:

[Loulabelle]

mikaylasmummy - you are so right. good for you for not letting other people get to you. I get sick of people asking 'Have I tried X' when it's so blinkin' obvious it was the very first thing I tried!

Steph - Just so you know, I use cloth diapers (and have since his cord came off the first week) and hardly have the TV on now as it distracts Little Moo from feeding and making good eye contact with me during social time. It also distracts ME from playing with him or getting on with other important jobs such as making baby food etc. so don't listen to colleagues who haven't managed it.

If you want to do it that way, then you bloody do it. Other people undermining you before you even start is far more detrimental to your success than the supposed hassle of sticking some diapers in the washing machine every other day!

Once upon a time there was no TV and diapers had to be soaked, boiled, mangled and hung out to dry, then pinned on to the baby (so to speak). All that's gone now and if people can't handle another load of laundry a day and some velcro, then they've got bigger problems than that ahead.

Why is it people seem to want new mothers to fail? I say, if you can't handle cloth nappies/breast feeding/whatever but you've at least tried it, then that's absolutely fine, but if you can you should do so and not be put off by other people.

There's loads of help out there for mothers who struggle, but for mothers who are successful, all you get told is that 'It won't last forever' or that 'Oooh, he's going to be a horrible teenager' and never 'Well done you. Not many women manage it, but you have'. I work bloody hard for my little one, and I've accepted now that I'm not going to get any recognition for it, other than the fact that he'll be a healthy child from the breastfeeding and there'll be a TON fewer nappies in my local landfill this year thanks to us.

[mikaylasmummy]

She made me stop talking when I mentioned cloth diapers. She was finding it hard to breathe through her howls of laughter. :shrug:


Not sure why....

[sodaklostsoul]

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[lizzardbits]

Right now, all I have to say is that I am sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Morning sickness?! Bah! Try ALL day sickness. Poor Mayhem can't even eat around me, otherwise I feel like I am going to blow chunks.

[IowaMan]

((((((((((((((((Lizz))))))))))))))))))))) :x:

[rabbit]

Right now, all I have to say is that I am sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Morning sickness?! Bah! Try ALL day sickness. Poor Mayhem can't even eat around me, otherwise I feel like I am going to blow chunks.

Lizz, so sorry you feel yucky. I know it sucks.

Mrs Rabbit tried some herbal remedies and they did help. check out your local vitamin store and see what they recommend...but FIRST make sure it is OK to take them with baby and all!!!!!

[cherrypie7788]

The only thing that helps my morning sickess is crackers and, weird as it is, popsicles.

As for the tiredness thing.....the only remedy for that is a nap.

[Loulabelle]

sodaklostsoul - that made me cry. Currently our papers our filled with no news of a little 3 year old girl who's been snatched while on holiday with her parents in Portugal. I cry everytime I see a news report on it.

((((((((((((((Lizz)))))))))))))))) remember it will get better sweetie.

Cherrypie7788 - pospsicles worked for me too. That and summer fruits like strawberries, grapes and raspberries.

[sodaklostsoul]

How awful, poor little girl, I hope and pray she has a happy ending.

I have an email friend in the Navy who is stationed in Japan right now and his wife passes along all the emails, I always thought it was funny that I get the baby/mommy emails from him and the really good jokes too.

(((((((((((((Lizz)))))))))))))) I guess I was lucky, I only had a few mornings where I felt like I had the flu and never really had morning sickness.

[wyndhy]

braggin, cause the boy if so frikkin smart :p

it just started pouring rain here and my little guy asked if he could go out. i said, nah...we're not gonna run around in the rain today, so he replies, can we walk? and i laugh and say no buddy, i like your logic but not today and he says, okay, i'll only stand still then.

i can only hope he will choose to use his powers for good instead of evil. :D

[Lilith]

My kids tell a story about playing outside in the rain in a hurricane.

<~~~~bad mother


In my defense, we were floating boats out the back door:D

[cherrypie7788]

I hope we aren't floating boats our our back door come hurricane season here :rofl: I'll be high tailing out of this place! :p

[wyndhy]

update: i hope he makes it to an age where he can decide between good and evil ... i walked in the door after putting the trash at the curb to find him surfing the stairs in a laundry basket. :eek:

[sodaklostsoul]

update: i hope he makes it to an age where he can decide between good and evil ... i walked in the door after putting the trash at the curb to find him surfing the stairs in a laundry basket. :eek:
Tell him the big cookie sheets work better then the basket. :D

[cherrypie7788]

*waddles in*

I'm not even that big yet at all, and my feet and back are killing me. It's so awful. I bought new shoes last night thinking maybe that was my problem...but no, it wasn't.

I had a doctor's appt this morning and she informed me that it was normal and fairly common, which after discovering the shoes didnt help..I figured that was the answer.

Ladies, what did/do you do to help?

[Loulabelle]

I didn't get foot pain but I got back pain early on.....I thought that would come once I was big, but for me it was in my first and early second trimester. To be honest, there's not much you can do but be patient. The good thing about pregnancy is the majority of the niggles don't last for the full 9 months.

Everyone I spoke to when I was PG agreed that they felt better after about 16 weeks or so.

Try warm baths and staying off your feet as much as possible will help. ((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))





My little man had more shots today - he cried a little bit at the time, but was the only baby to leave the treatment room smiling! He's Mummy's special soldier! :D :D

[ShadowDancer]

update: i hope he makes it to an age where he can decide between good and evil ... i walked in the door after putting the trash at the curb to find him surfing the stairs in a laundry basket. :eek:


this sounds SO much like something my 3 1/2 yr old would do! At this moment, he's using the couch as a trampoline/diving board. Our poor furniture won't survive. :rolleyes2

[wyndhy]

kids are crazy, and i have no idea where they get their crazy ideas. i mean, i'd never show a two year old how to ... say ... dive off the bed onto a pile of pillows, or laugh when he crawls in the dryer and shuts the door. and i know my husband would never show an innocent six year girl old how to burn things with a magnifying glass. that would be stupid. :blink:

[WildIrish]

update: i hope he makes it to an age where he can decide between good and evil ... i walked in the door after putting the trash at the curb to find him surfing the stairs in a laundry basket. :eek:


My youngest did that too. He was wearing a helmet made out of k'nex at the time. When asked "did you really think that would protect your beautiful little brain?" he replied "it's not supposed to...it just looks cool". That's my boy! lmao

He learned from that conversation though. He was wearing a helmet when he went zooming down our driveway sitting in an old office chair. :rolleyes:

[cherrypie7788]

When my mom was a little girl they lived in a house where the roof slanted in the back (old fashioned house, two story in the front but not in the back so if you looked at the house from the back it looked like ^ ). She says they used to take a garbage can lid up there and slide off the roof on it when her parents weren't home. It's a wonder she's not dead :rofl:

The worst I ever did was ride my bicycle down an extremely steep hill into a barbed wire fence.....lol
Luckily, I hit the wooden post and not the barbed wire ;)

[Lilith]

My entire back yard is a hill. The kids used to get on this huge Fischer Price car and roll down it at breakneck speed towards the back patio and the sliding glass door. Scared the hell out of me.

[lizzardbits]

Today was the 12 week ultrasound scan and the little guy/gal is very energetic! S/He kept moving around and waving at us. Mayhem is such a proud Daddy! The due date is now set at the 23rd of December, however I don't expect that s/he will make his/her arrival until the 26th. My other kids were born on the 26th of the month that they were due.

I know that women aren't supposed to feel movement yet, but I believe that I have been feeling this active little one for a few weeks now :D

[lizzardbits]

:hump: :boink: :molest: :buttsex: :bjhappy: :slurp: :boobs: :69:

It is most definately the second trimester for me! I am so horny ALLLLLL the time! I want orgasm after orgasm, and with pregnancy, I become multi-orgasmic as well!

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[ShadowDancer]

*SIGH* it's most definitely the 3rd tri for me--only a little over a week left til my 38 wk c/s. I want to have sex SO bad..but, alas, it's one of my bed-rest restrictions.

[Loulabelle]

(((((((((((Lizz)))))))))))) I just hope Mayhem is more into preggers sex than Fussy was - unfortunately, pregnant women just don't do it for him.

((((((((((SD)))))))))))))) I can sympathise with your frustrations (see above!)

[Loulabelle]

Oh and....

my little one has his first cold and so do I. I didn't have a cold the whole time I was pregnant and breastfeeding, and three weeks after I give up, then we both get one. The human body is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

[Miss-Honey-Bee]

Sorry, I'm back tracking here.

sodaklostsoul - great post, made me cry. I miss my Mummy. I'm 21 tomorrow and still call her mummy, LOL.

Lou - I was thinking about Maddie today. It's shocking how little we're hearing of the search for her now. Her poor parents must be distraught, fair enough they shouldn't have left her, but they did, and saying they shouldn't have won't bring her back, nor does it suggest they don't deserve her back.

x

[ShadowDancer]

(((((((((((Lizz)))))))))))) I just hope Mayhem is more into preggers sex than Fussy was - unfortunately, pregnant women just don't do it for him.

((((((((((SD)))))))))))))) I can sympathise with your frustrations (see above!)

Mr SD definitely does NOT have a problem with preggers sex. We've actually "cheated" a couple of times the past couple of weeks since I was put on bed rest...LOL. He just had to grumble because it's the first time he's had to wear a rubber since he knocked me up!

[ShadowDancer]

Miss Bryleigh made her appearance on Weds June 27, 2007 at 10:20 pm. Born via c-section, she is a very healthy 8lbs 8oz and 20 3/4" long. The surgery went well for the most part...except the anesthesia began to wear off at the tail end of the procedure. I never actually felt any thing other than pressure, but I could feel the numbness wearing off. But the "pressure" quickly gave way to lots of PAIN! Unfortunately, since the spinal block was supposed to last 6+ hours, I couldn't have anything other than 1/2 a dose of demerol for pain--even though mine was wearing off after only an hour and a half. The demerol did NOTHING! By the time my hour in recovery was up, I could already move my legs much more than I should have been able to--and that came from one of the nurses. So, I guess, I have developed a tolerance to the pain meds/anesthesia.

[cherrypie7788]

Miss Bryleigh made her appearance on Weds June 27, 2007 at 10:20 pm. Born via c-section, she is a very healthy 8lbs 8oz and 20 3/4" long. The surgery went well for the most part...except the anesthesia began to wear off at the tail end of the procedure. I never actually felt any thing other than pressure, but I could feel the numbness wearing off. But the "pressure" quickly gave way to lots of PAIN! Unfortunately, since the spinal block was supposed to last 6+ hours, I couldn't have anything other than 1/2 a dose of demerol for pain--even though mine was wearing off after only an hour and a half. The demerol did NOTHING! By the time my hour in recovery was up, I could already move my legs much more than I should have been able to--and that came from one of the nurses. So, I guess, I have developed a tolerance to the pain meds/anesthesia.

Congrats!!!!



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The pain in my feet has gotten so much worse...I can hardly stand to even be on them for more than 30-40 minutes at a time. :(

The fact that for the past, oh, three weeks or so I have been traveling back and forth between TN and LA is not helping me much either. Hopefully I am back in LA to stay until birth.

[Loulabelle]

My little man turned 8 months today and he can crawl!!!!!!!!!!

Well ok, so it's more of a Commando wriggle at the moment, but he is mobile in a forwards direction and there is now no inch of our living room he can't get to (well within a height of about a foot and a half off the floor). Thank goodness we invested in a playpen when we did, as at least he now has somewhere safe to be while I'm fixing his lunch or answering the door etc.

[dm383]

My little man turned 8 months today and he can crawl!!!!!!!!!!

Well ok, so it's more of a Commando wriggle at the moment, but he is mobile in a forwards direction and there is now no inch of our living room he can't get to (well within a height of about a foot and a half off the floor). Thank goodness we invested in a playpen when we did, as at least he now has somewhere safe to be while I'm fixing his lunch or answering the door etc.

8 months, eh? And I bet it only feels like last week that you brought him home! :)

Aah, I remember it well - and my "little one" turns 14 this Hallowe'en.

DM

[Loulabelle]

I've lost track: When are all the Pixie babies due?

[wyndhy]

not til early november but both my other kids were 38 weekers so maybe late october, maybe even on my own birthday - which would be pretty cool. either way, they won't schedule the c-sec this far in advance so i don't know an exact date yet.

i already look like i swallowed a very large beach ball, strangers i meet think i'm due next week (even the delivery nurse i met at the pool yesterday), all sexual positions except oral and manual are becoming extremely uncomfortable, i can't eat a decent meal 'cause any amount of food in my belly makes me feel fuller than thanksgiving seconds. they say you show quicker with your third but this is ridiculous. i actually demanded a recount.

:p

[ShadowDancer]

I've lost track: When are all the Pixie babies due?


Mine made her appearance June 27th...but Lou already knows that, we've talked about her already...LOL! :loveshowe

[Oldfart]

Gortta keep that next generation coming.

[themi01]

Grandbaby due mid Sept

[Loulabelle]

Oh yay for you, themi01! My mum's partner is expecting twin grandbabies mid september too! I'm guessing they're having one of each.

[cherrypie7788]

Supposed to be late November, but I dont think he is going to wait that long.....

I feel like someone pumped my belly full of air.

[Loulabelle]

That's what I thought of my little one who was also due late November, but 4 days after my due date I managed to convince them I should be induced!

[rabbit]

Well, I'm gonna be an uncle again this December.

Lessee...that would make 9 nephews and no nieces. What's the odds of that???

[cherrypie7788]

I have been having migraine headaches for about three weeks and it seems like I may be coming down with one right now....my head is not pounding, it's a steady (intense) ache. I cant wait till November.

[lizzardbits]

This little one is due on the 23rd of December...however, I tend to let my kids cook a little longer and since my first was born on the 26th of December, I think that it is fate that this little one to be born on his/her sibling's birthday. Either that or this little one will be born on Mayhem and my first anniversary---the 29th of December....

This little one is very active! I have a feeling that he or she will be an active baby as well!

I am craving weird things all the time and poor Mayhem has a hard time keeping up with what I am craving... Last week it was tomatoes, fresh tomato salad, and green fried tomatoes. Now I am so hungry for turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce and pumpkin pie, but I haven't got the gumption to make a whole Thanksgiving meal, so we are going out to KFC tomorrow. Oh, and I normally loathe colas--Pepsi, Coca-cola, storebrand--I just can't get enough of it right now---geesh go figure. The three constants, though, have been Cadbury chocolate bars with caramel, cold cold milk, and lots and lots of SEX :D:D:D Mmmmmhummmm

[cherrypie7788]

My belly is huge! I'm so miserable. Everyone comments on how big it is too. I feel like I'm about to POP!

It's this close to the end and we still don't have a name or we don't agree on one anyway. At this point it looks like he may be named after his dad. I am slowly giving into that and I'll admit the idea is kind of growing on me.

[Loulabelle]

Oh I can sympathise Cherrypie.....it's miserable towards the end. I got more sleep once the baby was born than in those last few weeks when my heartburn was so bad and my hands and feet were so swollen that they hurt.

Good luck with all that's to come and don't worry about the name. We hadn't really agreed until I was in the delivery room and Fussy finally said to the midwife that we'd be calling him the name that I'd wanted from the beginning. I think seeing me go through the birthing process made him feel as though I'd earned the right to choose the name!

[ShadowDancer]

well, baby girl is 17 wks old and is getting SO big! she's already wearing 6-9 mos clothes! we had her ears pierced a few weeks ago...and apart from the initial tears when they were done, she pays them no mind now. now, if i can just keep big brother from trying to pick her up all the time!

[Loulabelle]

My little man is going through another phase of waking up in the night crying for milk! He always does this when he's about to get ill, or he's just getting over something but it's most inconvenient now I'm not nursing, especially since I'll be returning to work in a week's time!

Have spoken to our health visitor and she's suggested some steps to help prevent him from needing the milk in the middle of the night and also how to make it easier for us if he does.

Keep your fingers crossed for us that this works!

[Oldfart]

Ours were weaned with plain bottled water (boiled of course).

They were smart enough to figure that they weren't getting anything, so they may as well sleep through.

[Loulabelle]

Thanks for the input OF, but he's been sleeping through the night since he was 8 weeks old, so it's not that. I've tried settling him with water but it doesn't work.

He's genuinely hungry when he wakes, and it only happens when he's ill or just getting over something. He's not that keen on milk I don't think, as he usually takes the bare minimum he can get away with but I think when he's ill he doesn't eat as well and therefore reverts back to needing more milk.

I'm a big believer in letting a baby cry and settling himself back to sleep, but on these occasions he'd cry until breakfast time, as he really does need milk.

[Lilith]

Do you put rice cereal in his last bottle?

[Cheyanne]

Do you put rice cereal in his last bottle?

My thoughts too. Mine would do this as well, and what I did was mix a little rice cereal in the bottle and they were satisfied until morning.

[Oldfart]

If you can't find rice cereal, there may be wheat based stuff like FAREX to do the same thing. Use sparingly.

[Loulabelle]

I've heard you guys mention this before on here, but in the UK it's a MAJOR no-no.

Everything I've read says DO NOT be tempted to add anything into their milk. I'm not sure why, but my health visitor would go mad if I did that, and I don't really like the idea of doing that anyway. Plus I'm not sure it would do any good, as he eats plenty so it's not the solids he needs but the milk itself. Usually these phases only last about 5 or so days so it's not a big deal and it's only about the 3rd or 4th phase like this he's had in 11 months. It's just frustrating that I can't anticipate them and get more milk in him during the day before it happens, as we end up in a vicious cycle of him taking it between the hours of 7pm and 7am and not the other way around.

[Lilith]

Well I won't try to convince you but from everything you describe he seems hungry and needs slower to digest food that will leave him satisfied throughout the night. Would a glass of milk satisfy you all night. We get the same advice you have been given medically but this is a case where I believe my mom, grandma, her mother and the 394858925793857293 other moms who have made cereal bottles for their babies as they hit this stretching point know best. I don't know one child who was harmed or had digestive difficulties due to it.

Of course my #1 son who is a veggie head now used to have a standard size bottle with a small jar of say pea or peaches baby food, the bottle filled with rice cereal and then formula added to mix it all. The bottle was shaken and a huge X cut in the nipple. He would suck the bottle until it caved in. This was at 4 months old. He had no trouble moving to solids as he already new how to manage thicker textures. Aside from the vegetarian choice, he's height and weight proportionate.

[Cheyanne]

It is a mixed bag here with cereal bottles as well. Some doctors don't want babies having any solids until 12 months old. Something to do with allergies. All I know is that for generations my family has had them with the 'x' cut in the nipple.. lol - heck now they even make the nipples with the x already cut...

I was able to breast feed my daughter until she was 1 1/2 years old, but did introduce a small portion of cereal to her when she was 10 months old before bedtime.

Don't have much more to add Lou. Do what you are comfortable with - you know your little guy the best! (((LOU)))

[Lilith]

After I typed all that, I went to eat breakfast and started thinking the same thing Chey.

You know your baby. You know what he needs. You were made specifically to be his mother. You will do the just right thing for your baby.

[Loulabelle]

How different the advice in the UK!

We're told to start babies on solids at 6 months, and he should be (and is) eating proper food that requires some chewing by 8 or so months. I've never heard of keeping a baby on a milk only diet until 12 months. My little man would be gnawing the legs of the cat! He's eating halved clementine segments as I write this. He eats three solid meals a day, plus healthy snacks and lunch and dinner are usually two courses so I think it's unlikely he needs more solids in his diet, as he's not going to bed on just a glass of milk, but meat, veg, potato, fruit as well as a bottle of formula!

I do appreciate your concern and advice though people, but I also appreciate that you lovely ladies realise that I'm the momma, and that probably means I know what's best (hopefully!)

[Loulabelle]

Just to update this, over the weekend he didn't get us up in the night for milk (although he did wake early, but I put this down to the clocks changing) but after a day at nursery he once again woke in the night wanting milk! I'm not sure if it's something to do with nursery or whether that's just coincidence.

On both days of the weekend, he had a large jar of bought baby food designed for 10 months plus, which is VERY chunky indeed for bought stuff and on Monday he had some of my homemade stuff from the freezer which is also pretty chunky. I thought that would be enough, but now I'm wondering if I simply didn't give him a big enough portion of food last night. He never used to be able to manage a full portion but perhaps when he's at nursery he needs the extra calories.

[wyndhy]

i noticed a pattern of change in my kids' eating habits right before a growth spurt; they'd eat like little fiends for a week or two, then sleep more than normal, then i'd see that clothes were getting too small. i also saw the same sort of persnickety nighttime behavior before a big milestone, like sitting up or walking.

often pediatricians will tell you not to change nighttime feeding and cuddling habits, lest you make the habit permanent, but i say whatever makes your little guy and/or you feel better is A-OK. if that means more to eat before bedtime, cereal in a bottle, midnight cuddles, ignoring him completely, or bringing him in your bed for the rest of the night, then do it. i never had a problem breaking my kids of any temporary routine changes. and i never had a problem not following a doctor's order. i look at it as more like a bit of friendly advice. moms have been doing their own thing for millennia, anyway, and a little trial and error is to be expected.

happy parenting, lou and fussy

[Loulabelle]

He has just come down with a cold (again, 3rd time in 2 months!) probably due to just starting nursery, and he always wakes needing milk before a cold. The last two nights he's not woken needing food and has totally gone off solids, which is usual when he's ill.

[cherrypie7788]

I'm so close to the end now, we are counting down the days. I'm very nervous about the whole birth thing....but I cant wait to meet my son!

[ShadowDancer]

Miss Bryleigh is teething. She'll be 5 mos old in about a week. She's upwards of 18-19lbs and 27" long. She's in 6-9 mos clothes! She likes her veggies and cereal too. She's laughing now as well...hubby gets all tickled when she laughs. He'll start laughing so hard he'll have tears running down his face!

[sodaklostsoul]

This was quite the Pixies baby year.

Congrats to all the mommies and daddies and soon to be ones too.

[Loulabelle]

My gorgeous little man is 1 on Monday!

Hard to believe that this time last year I was as big as a house and just wishing the days away until 'B'-day.

Now, he's nearly walking unaided and ressembles a toddler more than a baby. I just can't believe how quickly it's gone and how much we've all grown up!

[Lilith]

I can't believe he's 1 already! What an amazing year!

[IowaMan]

Yay Little Pucker!!! :loveshowe:

[mayhem1978]

Wow has it really been a year.. Yikes

Congrats to you guys

[ShadowDancer]

My lil' miss has 2 teeth on the bottom and is working on her top ones. She'll turn 6mos old next Thursday!

[lizzardbits]

Shhh...but I think that I am in labor.... A Solstice baby would be nice :D

[Lilith]

You think???

[PantyFanatic]

.....A Solstice baby would be nice
So THAT'S why she moved to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge) England.


And she was thinking about it (http://www.pixies-place.com:81/forums/showthread.php?p=1511332#post1511332) a few minutes later too. :D

[Loulabelle]

Oooh! Any news? Any news?

My sister was a solstice baby, by the way!

Have a wonderful Christmas, Lizz and Mayhem - whether the baby puts in an appearance or not! x

[scotzoidman]

Shhh...but I think that I am in labor.... A Solstice baby would be nice :D
You think???
This sequence reminds me of #2 son's birth...I had had about 1.5 hrs sleep (worked night shift at the time) when mrs zoid hollered from the bathroom, "Scotz! I think my water just broke!"

I resisted the urge to tell her to wake me when she knew...

[Booger]

I talked to Mayhem earlier today and he said it was false labor so no baby yet.

[PantyFanatic]

Tell her storks bring babies. Not reindeer! :hair: Quit playing around.

[Oldfart]

In it's own good time, as well you know.

[mayhem1978]

Ok just thought id check in here.

It all turns out that it was false labour. The babys head dropping into position caused all the contractions. We are still here waiting for baby to arrive.

Merry Xmas to all

The mayhem family

[sodaklostsoul]

/me sits and waits for word on little mayhem.

[mayhem1978]

stubborn baby (remember part Lizzardbits, part mayhem) so we are still waiting

[sodaklostsoul]

Smart baby....................didn't want birthday gifts tied in with Christmas gifts. :D

[sodaklostsoul]

"Where's the baby?"



But I'm not getting you a scoop for the poopies!

[mayhem1978]

Sorry guys still no baby...

[IowaMan]

:(

Stubborn little bugger huh? Give Lizz a hug for me and let her know it's snowing back here.

[lizzardbits]

Stubborn little bugger is right! With all the contractions and impending labor signs that I have been having since...oh...'round a bout the 19th...I would have thought that I'd have a whole litter of Lil' Lizzes and Mayhems. False labor is an insidious thing, I tells ya!

so we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait....oh and we wait some more.

[Loulabelle]

(((((Lizz))))) I know I don't need to tell you to enjoy the peace while it lasts. It'll be gone soon enough and there'll be days in the future when you'll wish you were still preggers rather than up to your ears in nappies, breast pads and piles of washing!

Having said that, I'm so looking forward to hearing your news - perhaps it'll be our turn to come up and see you guys next time!

Lou
x

[PantyFanatic]

OR ................ :rolleyes: maybe we can ALL meet at Nashville. :brows:








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[ShadowDancer]

any news from lizz & mayhem? :baby:

[PantyFanatic]

not yet :shrug:

[mayhem1978]

sorry guys nothing yet. Had to go into the Hospital yesterday with a slightly raised blood pressure but after 6 hours in the waiting area for bloods and test results got sent home. Had another set of BP taken today and all is ok so we are still waiting for baby to show his/her face

[sodaklostsoul]

Stubborn lil tyke. :)

Its gonna wait until you go to work mayhem.

[wyndhy]

any word yet? hope all's ok lizz and mayhem (((hugs)))


our curtain climber is almost 2 months already. still lots of fun and still loved to bits. :D

[Loulabelle]

Couple of weeks overdue now, Lizz......are they talking about inducing you?

[mayhem1978]

:D
http://www.pixies-place.com:81/forums/showthread.php?p=1518149#post1518149

[Loulabelle]

Yay to you two again Mayhem!

In other news, my little man has the Chicken Pox. Ho hum.

[Lilith]

Do they not routinely vaccinate children for that in the UK?

[IowaMan]

Oh no, poor little fella! :(

Get well soon Little Pucker!

[Loulabelle]

Do they not routinely vaccinate children for that in the UK?

Nope, not Chicken Pox.

Every other imaginable "childhood" disease, yes.

[Loulabelle]

My poor little man is absolutely covered in itchy blisters now. It's so frustrating to see him suffering but I think the worst is probably over now - he's had no new spots today, so hopefully he'll be well again by next week. Thankfully, getting it early means it's usually quite short lived.

[wyndhy]

awww. poor little prince. hope he feels better soon!

[ShadowDancer]

I had the Chicken Pox when I was about 10 and VERY generously shared with all 3 of my siblings. Thankfully, my son's not had it--he was vaccinated for it and baby girl will be too...it's part of our routine shots here now.

[*mikaylas_mummy]

hey everyone,
I have finally found this thread again..
Things are going great on this end, I am now 23 weeks along and have found out the sex as you know all tests results have been clear of anything wrong.

[Loulabelle]

SD - they are talking about making the vaccination routine here too, but since there is quite a lot of controversy about the effectiveness and safety of various different routine vaccinations that are given in the UK, there is quite a lot of opposition to it. According to my Mum, there is evidence to support the fact that catching chicken pox as a child reduces the chances of contracting leukaemia, so if that's true, I'd rather he had chicken pox!

I am considering not giving him the 3 in 1 Measles, Mumps and Rubella vaccination too - instead I may pay privately for him to have the Measles jab and not bother with the other two. Apparently in most cases, they are only effective for the first few years, so in fact make it more likely that if a child is going to get it, they're more likely to get it in their teens (far more dangerous for boys in the case of mumps, as it can make them infertile, and for girls in the case of Rubella as it can cause Rubella syndrome in babies if caught when pregnant). I am still torn about this decision. I want to do what is actually best for my son, not what everyone else tells me is best for him, which means trying to decide what research and which doctors I believe.

[Lilith]

In the US college students must show a booster for Measles or a resistance in order to register for college. I know I had to get lab work at 30 years old to prove I did not need a shot.

[wyndhy]

our little one had four shots and the new oral rota vac the other day. it was not a fun afternoon for her, poor little girl, but i feel that for most vaccines, the benefits outweigh the risks.

[Loulabelle]

I agree with you - the majority of vaccines are beneficial, it's just measles and rubella that I'm not convinced about. There is also controversy that the 3 in 1 MMR may be linked to Autism. It's all a bit of a minefield.

[wyndhy]

i recently read that cases of autism have not decrease since the removal of the mercury preservative.

[Lilith]

I read that too. ^^

[1nutworld]

this may have been covered previously................

As most..(all??) of you know, I've got a 2.5 month old baby boy and he's cute as a button, and making all kinds of baby noises.

I talk to him like he's grown up. Maybe it's a fluke, but he smiles (bigger) when I make the same sounds that he makes.

I don't want to stunt his development, but is my making "baby noises" going to help or hinder his development?

Is it better if I do a combination?

(Just a sidebar, holy crap I feel so damn stupid for NOT remembering this from when is big brother was a baby, but.....I don't.)

Of course it was ONLY 9 years ago) :shrug:

[wyndhy]

you won't stunt his development at all. babies love that verbal pingpong. not only does it help develop language skills to hear the same noise twice in quick succession but it encourages them to make new noises. plus all the eye and physical contact you're giving him when you play this game have immeasurable benefits. you're connecting in so many ways.

it is a good idea to use "big people" language, though - asking a question and actually pausing for a response, touching parts of his body and naming them, singing, finger plays like itsy bitsy spider, going through the house or on a walk and pointing out objects while you name them, flicking on and off the lights while you say "on, off" ... all that kind of stuff ... none of it ever hurts.

i say mix it up. variety is the spice of life.

[1nutworld]

Thanks wyndhy!

How's your little one doing?


Daniel is SUCH a "daddy's boy" - editor's note, -please feel free to ignore that editorial statement :)

[Loulabelle]

I say go with your instincts. However you feel is natural to communicate with baby is usually the right way.

It's empowering for babies to have their noises repeated to them; they learn that they have a way of altering their environment through verbal communication, but obviously they need to hear adult words too.

You probably speak to your baby in adult words more than you realise, and using 'motherese' (the sing song, over inunciated 'baby voice') is absolutely fine too. In fact, it helps baby identify important words (usually nouns) like Mummy, Daddy, Baby, Teddy, Dog, Cat etc.

When my little one was really tiny I found it easier to sing to him than talk. After a while I ran out of things to say to him, but could sing him songs all day long. Now he's 13 months old, it's unsurprising then that as well as Mama, Dadda, Hello and Bye, the only other thing he says is 'Row, Row'. Usually repeatedly comlete with the rocking motion until I finally cave and sing it a couple of times round!

[wyndhy]

Thanks wyndhy!

How's your little one doing?


Daniel is SUCH a "daddy's boy" - editor's note, -please feel free to ignore that editorial statement :)
she's wonderful! thanks for asking. daddy's girl, i think ... she talks to him way more than she talks to me (harrumph! little traitor). she's giving us lots of those big smiles, keeping us on our toes and generally ruling the house. she can't take her eyes off her big brother and sister, grudgingly takes one bottle of milk but otherwise wants it straight from the source, sings up a storm and loves to have a chat with her raggedy ann doll. she likes the night life, but once she's asleep, she stays there til we get her up at 7 or 8 to eat, so i can't complain too much (although i do anyway:p). she's this close to rolling onto her belly and wants to sit up so bad, it's a riot. she's a riot. we're having lots of fun.

[mayhem1978]

Little mayhem is doing really well. Had his heal stick on Tuesday which lead to the first real tears that we had seen from him....poor little man.

BUT last night, well actually 4:30am, he smiled.... yes little mayhem smiled at us.. first mom and then me!!! YAY. It totally made the last couple of weeks with little sleep worth it.

[Loulabelle]

You know what they say, Mayhem -

'When does a baby smile?'

- 'Just in time'

Glad your little one doesn't cry too much. Ours didn't either and it makes it so muchc easier to bond. Having said that - keeping on top of their needs so they don't cry is exhausting!

[IowaMan]

That made my morning to read about Little Mayhem's smile. :nod:

How's Little Pucker doing with those chicken pox Lou? Hopefully the little fella is traveling at a good clip down the road to recovery. :wish:

[Loulabelle]

Aw thanks for asking Iowaman. Not only have the spots all healed over now, but he has hardly any marks left from them either. One of the other kids at nursery is still covered in marks all over his face and he caught them a week earlier than our little one.

Unfortunately, he seems to have come down with a cold already - it's just been one thing after another since September - a combination of cold weather and starting nursery I think!

Oh and he's travelling at a good clip everywhere these days. He is constantly on his feet now - hardly ever crawls at all. Looks like his babyhood is nearly over!! :(

[PantyFanatic]

Just keep remembering how anxious you were to see him walk. :rofl:

[wyndhy]

This is lengthy but I'd appreciate all of you reading through and giving me any thoughts you may have - especially our pixies that have experience with this sort of stuff.


Our little boy is in speech therapy and someone's decided he needed to be evaluated by a developmental and occupational therapist. The reasons are two-fold: one.) I am trying to get him in a free preschool class (we cannot afford one) cuz I think that being with his peers several days a week in a setting that is more structured than a play-date will do more for his speech issues than any therapy or one-on-one practice will, but they will not qualify kids based solely on speech deficiencies...yes, he must "be bad" at something else in order to get help, and two.) The OT screener thought he was hyper-active and also showed some difficulty handling scissors (but that's bullshit) and mid-line problems - which I've notice but I don't believe they are as severe as the therapist thinks. It is something we work on here at home so that it doesn’t manifest itself into dyslexia or reading problems later. So because of the things the OT noticed during his speech therapy session, they’ve decided to send occupational and developmental therapists out to the house for evaluations and I have agreed.

Now that you have the back story, here's my gripe, my in-your-face-you-lousy-therapists-and-your-standardized-bullshit, and my dilemma:

The OT was here at the house and had the boy do all sorts of stuff like cutting and gluing, puzzles and beads...the usual occupational stuff ... and when he glues his sun onto the paper, he sticks it on the bottom and the therapist says "On the ground, huh? That's interesting," none too kindly and looks at me in this eyebrows raised, I think he's got problems sort of way and my boy says, "Yup. It's setting."

I almost stuck out my tongue, but figured I'd be setting a bad example. :p

Then, after he's done gluing, he asks me if he can wash his hands cuz there's glue all over them. I tell him yes and at the same time the therapists asks him if he doesn't like his hands to be dirty (indicative - to them at least - of sensory problems). He looks to me and I excuse him to wash his hands and the therapist wants to know if I think he has a problem and explains to me why she thinks he does. So I asked her, "Do you like it when your hands are sticky, or do you prefer to wash them?"

she never did answer my question. my faith in these people is quickly sliding away. Why are they focusing so much on the unusual stuff ... tha "bad" stuff? What ever happened to the sum of the parts?

She takes her results from the day (she told me he scored at 53 months – he’s 41 months) and the assessment questionnaire I had filled out and leaves. She calls me a few days later with questions, telling me “the test has scored him as having severe sensory problems.”

First of all … “the test has scored?” Since when does a test do the scoring? Where’s the human factor?

And secondly … she was here, she met him. He hugged her and talked to her and sat mostly still for almost an hour and a half (she took her damn sweet time). He talked to her about how he likes to go swimming, and help me bake cookies, and how he takes showers, and likes to eat mac and cheese and carrots and steak, and likes to play at the playground and go zoom-real-fast down the slide.

But this idiot is using the stupid questions they ask on these stupid questionnaires, and the stupid standardized way they score it instead of an over-all view of him as a three-year old, middle-child boy who doesn't care for getting sticky and (gasp!) doesn't conform to the absolute perfect standardized kid.

I politely reminded her that I know my child best, and I would do anything in my power to help him in areas that I see as potentially problematic, but just because he doesn't want to swing on the swings 2 times out of the 10 I ask, or would prefer to play quietly on occasion as opposed to playing with motion-type toys all the time, and sometimes gets pissed when the sun in his face, and doesn't always like to be held upside-down or spun in circles, and avoids foods and smells he doesn't like, and takes his shoes and sock off almost the minute we walk in the door does not mean he has a problem. In fact, it means he's human. He has likes and dislikes, just like an adult. He manages to behave reasonably well when we’re out, and he is kind and smart and fun and functional. Yes, he has some quirks, but they are nothing that interfere with his life in any significant way. They have also lessened as he gets older. I also reminded her that just because they recommend treatment doesn't mean I must agree to it.

She politely reminds me that that is my prerogative.

All i wanted to do was get him speech therapy. He isn’t even that deficient but he can be a little hard to understand - especially if you don’t know him well, or he’s talking on the phone. And since he’s gong to be headed into kindergarten pretty much right when he turns 5, I wanted to try and clear up most of his speech issues early so that he doesn’t get the shaft by a teacher who has 24 other kids to worry about and will not have the time to say “What did you say?” and actually listen closely to him. He’ll just get “yessed" - he knows when he’s being yessed, and he hates it - or worse, he'll be ignored. But now I’ve got myself and him into “the system” and I’m worried they are going to try and change him and get him to fit some norm that someone, somewhere has defined as ideal. I’m worried they are going to pester me to get him therapy that I don’t want him to have nor do I think he needs. Even the speech therapist recently asked me about his hyper-activity. She’s never (prior to this eval he had) mentioned anything to me about his behavior being problematic while he’s with her or potentially problematic later on when he has to sit still and pay attention in class. I asked her if he was violent, she said no. I asked her if she thought he couldn’t follow directions. She said no. She added that in fact, she puts some very high demands on him and he usually does very well. I asked her why she thought he had a problem and she told me that after his OT screen at the school, the therapist saw him as “excited” and asked if he was always like that. Basically, she’s been corrupted.

It used to be that people just chalked hyper activity and little kid behavior up to “being a kid,” but now they want our kids to act like adults.

My dilemma is that I don’t know if I should just pull him from the system all together or keep the speech and possibly have an OT work with him a few times a month on the mid-line problem. I only wanted their help in the first place cuz I couldn’t seem to help him on my own - the dynamics were too charged between mother and son to get more than a few minutes of real work in a day. But now I feel that I’ve done him a disservice; that I have allowed these people to label my child, and try to change my child all for my worry of what may or may not happen the future. I love him just the way he is, quirks and all. Like i said, he’s functional – none of his little quirks have ever (or likely will ever) kept him from living out his life in any way that I would consider outside the normal range. I don't know if I should allow them to continue with his therapy just so I can get him qualified for a class, either. I think I'd rather him be a little different and lispy, maybe even have him begin kindergarten at six if we need to, than subject him to philosophy and technique I do not agree with, and the pressure to conform he's sure to get from his teacher if he ends up in therapy.

The developmental peeps have not been here yet - they are due in a few days. I don't know if i'm going to keep the appointment yet. I am curios what they'll have to say, but I know he picks up on all this and I don't think he needs more undermining of his self-confidence, or more people pointing out what's wrong.

Yes, he’s hyper. Yes, he can be weird. Yes, he has some unusual habits. But when did all this get labeled as retarded or underdeveloped or unhealthy or deficient?


shit.

[Lilith]

Yes keep him home til he's 6.

In my district students do not qualify for ESE services and headstart is ESE or Title 1, unless there is at least a 25% lag in a developmental field. It seems as if in many areas he does not meet that sort of criteria but that the OT may think she is "helping" by labeling him with the sensory issues. We know sensory integration is directly tied to a student's ability to master higher level concepts. At the Title 1 schools in my district all K student sare given 30 minutes of sensory integration activities daily. Of course it's fun and the kids love it.

In my district parents have right of refusal of services even after testing. However refusal is all or nothing. So here if you refuse OT the speech disappears too.

I'm not able to speak from a non-biased place on these issues. I was an early interventionist for 8 years. I am also the mother of a child with disabilities. Albeit many less disabilities than he had initially thanks in part to the services we took part in when he was very young.

Currently we are continually asking our children to do things they are not developmentally ready for. Schools know it, and teachers know it and everywhere we go we tell everyone that it's wrong. However we do not have the power to change it. Parents do. The last PTA meeting I went to there were 12 teachers and 4 parents. If parents don't put a stop to all this it will continue.

In my district students who get into preschool on ESE or Title 1 are usually labeled DD with no specifics. The once in school at 6 their label has to be reviewed to see if any further diagnosis is needed or have they simply caught up.

Not sure any of it helped but I understand where you are coming from.

[wyndhy]

thanks for the input lil.

Putting off school is something we are obviously considering because as you point out, he will be expected to keep up with the standards, no matter how stupid I and many others may think some of those standards are. We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it, but I can definitely say we will at least let him try. There is a no harm/no foul option here after one month.

It's at school-age (aka five) here that they must notify schools of any developmental deficiencies. At least that's what they tell me. We can get also get speech and no OT, or vice versa if we want it – again, this is what they tell me. He will get re-evaled every 6 months to one year, depending on recommendations. I totally agree that therapy helps - his speech therapy certainly hasn't hurt his speech so far, but what I've consented to is dragging us into muddy waters.

[wyndhy]

wanted to add that becasue of the points you raise, i'll be talking to the IU to double check on these standards. thanks again

[Lilith]

In the 8 years I worked with very young children I found that many many boys in particular were much better off for having given them another year of playful development.

At my school in K they are expected to have 60 sight words and write 4 sentences on topic about a given prompt by the end of K. Crazy.

[wyndhy]

I like how we challenge kids to do more and give them more credit than we ever used to, but what I do find crazy is the way they make child (and parent for that matter) feel less than acceptable when they can't meet all the criteria. When I worked with K kids in the kid writing program last year, there were plenty who had most of it down, but not all, and yet they were not judged on their own individual accomplishments. It was all or nothing.

This is the same gripe I have with the CCIU here, and much of the standardization of acceptable behavior that the creation of these programs has spawned. They find out that our boy exhibits some of the symptoms for SPD, (and show me one kid who doesn’t have a few, and I’ll show you the child with abnormal behavior) and he’s labeled as having severe sensory problems. Thankfully, I’m not ignorant of the symptoms or the treatments. If I had been, they’d have us in fits about our “deficient” child, and enrolling him in every program or therapy they suggested, constantly worried that he’d never measure up to his peers.

I’m not trying to downplay the need for therapy for kids who need it or the great strides in early education that head start and similar programs have accomplished. But they are doing him no good by lumping him in with kids who have such severe SPD that they cannot function in day to day life. I’m sure our boy would have even more issues if we always coddled to his unusual quirks and never challenged him to do things he was uncomfortable with, but he has always been very funtional. When I talk to therapists about it, I am the one who gets coddled. They think I am only protesting because I do not want to accept that my child has a disorder.

[wyndhy]

Perhaps we just need different therapists, lil?

There was a specific time when the OT and ST brought him back after his screening at the school The ST starts telling me about the mid-line problem. She’s fascinated, telling me how they made him do it again and again, "It was wild! He just stops.” While the OT was explaining to her why it happens and how it means he’ll have trouble reading. I'm guessing form the way they're telling me the story that he was made to do this task while he was talked about as if he wasn’t even there. And then they bring him to me and start all over again. I told the OT that i though lots of kids don’t pick a dominant hand til 4 or 5. She said that was true. I also told her that I thought the way they made him perform and talked about it while he did it, skewed the results. I think he kept doing it because they kept saying he was doing it. I added I’ve noticed he does it at home, but he doesn’t do it all the time, and rarely with certain objects like crayons and pencils and utensils. Still, I was told it’s not normal. So even though we've just established that many kids have not picked a dominant hand at his age and he doesn't do it all the time, and at this point it's an issue that needs therapy. Would you say it's standard procedure for them to do this, or have I just gotten a bad lot?

I have family who work for th IU in other counties and they've said as long as he's enjoying it, keep him in and just pull him at 4 before they need to document for school. I am going to call my cousin and sister today and ask them what they think about this new assessment, too. But again, I’m just not sure that this is good for him. No matter how much he likes it, or how much fun he has doing it (i also have a little guilt about using services that other kids need way more than he does) or how helpful they think they’re being. Hubby also says not to worry so much. That we can balance out the extremes with what we do here at home.

I prolly sound so petty, considering there are kids out there way worse off, and i prolly am worrying too much but there it is.

[Lilith]

In my area the protocol is individuals evaluations that are discussed at a meeting with the family once all the information is gathered. So peeps don't compare notes til the meeting. Makes for less bias.

((hugs)) He's your lovie so it is important. You worry cause you love him and want to make good choices for him til he can make his own.

[wyndhy]

update:
he performed really well for the developmental eval (as we knew he would) and the service coordinator has an approach that's closer to our own. turns out she's a neighbor, too, so we got to talk a little less formally than i have been able to do with the other therapists. we both agreed that the boy would not benefit from any of the classes (the ST was a little misinformed about the types of off-campus classes offered - there are speech and language classes but they're filled with kids who are much more delayed than our boy and are therefore less like preschool, more like therapy. and head start was never something we thought he needed). she also agreed she saw no SPD or hyper-activity in him, either. she told me (on the QT) that she's found that many of their contracted OT's tend to approach any quirks with some very strict interpretations and do exactly what i was moaning about. so the bottom line is that if the contracted OT's recommended therapy is too much, she'll send out the IU's OT, or relay what she saw to their OT, so they can come up with a more appropriate plan. or, more likely, not recommend therapy at all.

still waiting to se if he's still 25% delayed in speech - he finished up his test last week and we won't be hearing from the service coordinator for a few weeks yet. i wouldn't be surprised either way, though. i do like the half hour or so he gets with his ST every week - he really enjoys it and i think it builds up his confidence so much - he doesn't get nearly as frustrated as he used to when people couldn't understand him. then again, people couldn't understand him a lot more often. but i also wouldn't be too sorry to see it go.

on the off chance they recommend OT therapy i do not agree with, we'll either work together toward something we can all agree on. i can also decline OT therapy and still keep the speech if he qualifies

i did talk to one of my cousins who owns a company that works as a subcontractor for the IU where she lives and she agreed with me. my sister, who works directly for the IU, didn't. she still thinks i should fight to get him in this class and use the phone call from the OT telling me he has severe SPD as ammo. my sister's always been a bit uptight. :D

i worried for nothing.
as usual.

thanks again lil (((hugs)))

[Lilith]

You didn't worry for nothing. You worried for the best reason ever created.

[wyndhy]

:) true dat. i do love that little guy to bits.

[Aqua]

Yes, he’s hyper. Yes, he can be weird. Yes, he has some unusual habits.
Hey, that sounds like me when I was little. It sounds even more like me today.


But when did all this get labeled as retarded or underdeveloped or unhealthy or deficient?

No effing clue.

You didn't worry for nothing. You worried for the best reason ever created.
Abso-freakin'-lutely correct.

[wyndhy]

Hey, that sounds like me when I was little. It sounds even more like me today.


that's reassuring. i know he'll be ok when he grows up.

er ... wait. what am i saying? you are so not normal.












































:p:D
((hugs))

[ShadowDancer]

well, i figured it's update time...baby girl is 7 mos old! She's a whopping 21lbs and 27" long. She's jumped quickly through the sizes of baby clothes and is getting into size 18 mos already! :eek: She can already feed herself small pieces of cereal, veggie dices, etc and is well on her way to crawling. :loveshowe

[Lilith]

that's reassuring. i know he'll be ok when he grows up.

er ... wait. what am i saying? you are so not normal.

:p:D
((hugs))


normal is over-rated :D


SD~ sounds like she'll be ready for pedicures and shopping at the mall in no time :D

[rabbit]

well, i figured it's update time...baby girl is 7 mos old! She's a whopping 21lbs and 27" long. She's jumped quickly through the sizes of baby clothes and is getting into size 18 mos already! :eek: She can already feed herself small pieces of cereal, veggie dices, etc and is well on her way to crawling. :loveshowe

Beautiful. My baby girl is 12 years old now, and I cannot believe how time is flying by. LOL...I still remember those days of the high chair and bibs and getting her to try different foods.

[Loulabelle]

Wow SD! My little man is 14 months old and is only just into 12-18 months clothes! He's not very tall for his age, and he's so energetic, I don't think there's much left growing!

[ShadowDancer]

9 mos old now...crawling like a fiend! She's quick too! She's pulling up and cruising--well as much as she can since we have NO furniture at the moment! (our beds are all we have). She's 21lbs 12oz as of apr 4th & 29 1/2 " tall! Her doc says shes in the 90th percentiles for both height & weight. And we noticed yesterday that she's got tooth #7 coming in too. My big man (he's 4) is good with his sissy, but he's an outright monster to me and his daddy. NOTHING works either. He's been going to "play therapy" with a counselor, but I don't see where it's helping.

[Loulabelle]

Bless. Glad everything's going well for you with Bryleigh. I'm sure the therapy will help your little boy in time, but it does take time. At least he's good with his baby sister - that's one positive, isn't it?

Lou
x

[Lilith]

My baby is 12 today :D

[wyndhy]

happy bday from auntie wyndhy!:D

hang in there SD. stand your ground. he'll shape up, i just know it.

[Oldfart]

My baby is 12 today :D

Pass on Mrs OF's and my birthday greetings.

Shame we won't catch him at P08.