Got me to thinking

[Lilith]

Divot's query got me thinking about facials. I am curious why men would want to give one? What is the appeal?

[Oldfart]

Beats me, I prefer the stimulation of contact continuing throughout orgasm.

[WildIrish]

^^^ What he said. :hot:

I could, however, see the attraction of them were the recipient really excited about it. To see someone turned on by having made you climax is really amazing, and if she's rubbing your penis around her mouth...stirring the cumshot and moaning a little...ok, I need to stop now. :faint:

[Glyndwr]

Could be a Dominance thing. Generally to give a facial the male would be above the recipient of the facial.

But I've heard it's really good for the skin, stops wrinkles and aging, also prevents peeling, and dries up warts... so if anyone needs perfect skin.... ;)

[dick]

I think it's just because us guys are under the impression that you gals think it's hot. No different from squirting on your boobs or on your tummy, etc. Suggest you ask the other ladies in here what they think about it. I have never personally tried it but, like OF & Irish, the idea doesn't do anything for me.

[Eastern]

does nothing for me.

[gekkogecko]

Oh, Lilith is thinking again. Now we're all in trouble.

[scotzoidman]

I think I've said before, facials are mostly a porn thing, personally I'm not into seeing it sprayed all over, in her eyes, up her nose, in her hair, etc...that's just a mess that someone needs a towel to clean up with. Now, OTOH, if I get to cum in her mouth, & she has chosen not to swallow it all (or any at all), & there's that little chin omelette dribbling down... :faint:

[Aqua]

I would only be into it if my partner was into it. I don't think I've ever given a facial to a woman.

[osuche]

My patner prefers my tummy or mouth. ;)

[IowaMan]

Never given one intentionally. There have been a couple of times when a partner would want me to cum in her mouth (and since that apparently isn't in my make-up to accomplish from oral sex) and a couple of spurts have gotten away from me as I stroked myself to orgasm. And yes, I was a good boy and "cleaned it up" for her. :slurp:

If I'm not going to cum inside of my partner, I prefer on her tummy or the small of her back. Actually, I prefer to be a bit inside and then sort of finish right there at the entrance. Makes for a yummy cooling down time. That's another story for another time though. :p

[Irezumi Kiss]

I have read that facials have this psycological factor kink of the male "marking his territory" and that both partners get off on it for different reasons....he, for the act of spewing his jizz all over her (or his) face and she, for the tactile sense of feeling his cum on her (or his) skin, her face as target area making it that much more intimate.

I can sort of understand that. But I much, much prefer my orgasms inside a woman's pussy or mouth. The few times I tried pulling out to spew my load on her body, the shock of feeling my hands on my sticky cock rather than the warmth of her interior, just decreased my sensitivity like, zaaaaaam! And my climaxes weren't so great at all. That's why when I watch a porn and the guys always pull out to jerk off over the woman's face...and then moan or wail like someone just shot them in the ass with an elephant gun during their nutt, I wanna call bullshit on them.

If I were to shoot on her face, it'd have to be from me pulling my pud from start to finish. If a woman takes me inside of her, I don't wanna leave.

But visually, sometimes it's exciting to see cum on a body or face, and the more pretty the body or face, the nastier the kink effect becomes. I like seeing the trajectory angles of the streams of cum, seeing how far it shot out and landed and the clumps and curdy, gooey viscosity of it.

[Jude30]

The few times I've done it it was a turn on knowing that she's actually enjoying (or at least doing a damned good job acting like she's enjoying) my semen, and not repulsed by it. I mean I enjoy her bodily fluids I love having a messy face from going down on her so it's nice when she at least acts like she's enjoying mine.

[1nutworld]

I guess I've never actually put any thought into why I feel the desire to do so.

I've given a couple, mostly unintentionally, but as has been commented on, they are a "standard" in porn, so I'm sure that plays a part into why. Part also is the "marking of territory" too. Part could be the dominance factor, but also, there ARE a few women that like them.

I met one, one time, at band.........no wait that was a movie.

I have to admit that I really get turned on by the sight of cum dripping down a woman's chin, and onto her upper chest. But then I also like cuming on her tummy, or backside, depending on the position we are in.

[Jax]

Well.... For me, there is something about the idea that she is willing to/wants to do it. Simply that. Same as on the tits, or back or mouth etc..

I can't explain why I like to come on her tits, but I do know that I like too. And those times when she jerks me off right there..well...it's just mentally stimulating too. At least that is as near as I can explain it.

[1nutworld]

Well.... For me, there is something about the idea that she is willing to/wants to do it. Simply that. Same as on the tits, or back or mouth etc..

I can't explain why I like to come on her tits, but I do know that I like too. And those times when she jerks me off right there..well...it's just mentally stimulating too. At least that is as near as I can explain it.

I agree and forgot to mention the whole "she is willing to/wants to" do it part. Excellent point Jax. That is a part of it as well, and probably the most important part, since I'm not a porn star and are being paid to do that.

[rabbit]

I would never give a facial unless she wanted it and she's never asked. Usually she wants it in her pussy or on her tummy.

[Mark Vieth]

Well I have never done it to a girl. Usually they have given me a blowjob and followed through on their own by swallowing.

[VeryLonelyMan]

I'm with Jax as well on this one. I have met women who have liked it, not liked it, and told me to do it before I even thought of asking. Now I am not saying I don't like women who don't do it. Because I love all women, but I like the fact that I am doing such a "deviant" sexual act by our standards. I mean we may be in this enlightened age but sex, unless its the missionary position, is bad according to so many people. Just my .02$

[LixyChick]

No different from squirting on your boobs or on your tummy, etc.
I disagree on that point dick. I think there is a huge difference. (<---I said huge and dick in the same paragraph...lol!)

I agree with those who said it's a dominance thing. I'll go one step further and say it could be a demeaning/insulting act if you insist on it and she has shown dislike for it but doesn't want to upset you during the climax but you know she won't turn you away.

It's almost like spitting in someones face to me. That is the highest form of insult in my book!

I like him to cum in my mouth. I'll leave my mouth wide open so he can watch it go in even. But I won't let him purposely come all over my face. I like him to cum anywhere else on my body for that matter...so it's not a clean up issue. If I find he can't control trajectory as he cums in my mouth I'll clamp my mouth over him till he's calmed a bit and open again for the finale.

Hey! Marking territory is barbaric/animalistic! I've come a long way since being batted over the head and dragged into a cave!!!! LMFAO!

[Cjack]

I like it because she let me do it. It shows her submission to me.

[Oldfart]

As Scotz said, it's a porn thing.

The whole "pull out and spurt" thing was to prove the sex was for real, not faking it.

Expectations are born of porn, thus the "need for seed".

[divot109]

Well, since MY query got Lilith thinking I figured I ought to reply! For me personally, I can/will cum anywhere she directs me to! I ALWAYS announce my impending nut-gasm...sometimes she will keep it in her mouth (my personal fav)...sometimes on her face (another BIG turn-on, but not quite as stimulating)...sometimes on her chest &/or stomach...In short, I let HER do the aiming!!! I NEVER force anything upon anyone!!!

[Wicked Wanda]

Hmmmmm

*Once again, Wanda Kitty steps up and onto her soap (or is it a litter?) box.

OK, if is a porn thing, and I don't watch porn, why do I like them?

Yes, I've seen some porn, but I don't think I have seen a facial in a porn movie. I know that the man ejaculating where the camera can see it is important. "See? It's real". But I suspect facials are much, much older. They are just a variation of "titty fucking", which has been around forever. A more extreme "pearl necklace."
I did read that Bukkake (which I LOVE) came from Japanese porn, as they have to "hide" the man's cock in some way, but are allowed to show semen.
But coming on your partner is not just from movies. Yes, "marking" a woman with your semen (the man cums on your face, boobs, or bottom, you let it dry and wear it) is a D/s thing, (I happen to have practiced that as well) and I'm sure there is all kinds of interesting psych and sociology behind it. And when at university, we wore his pin, his jacket? That kind of "marking property" is different how? "Because it's yucky SEMEN!"?
So? I happen to like semen. Maybe it is popular because I know people who find semen disgusting. "It comes from the same place urine does, it's nasty, I'll never put that in my mouth!" - I have heard other women say all this. Cum in your mouth? What about swallowing? Not likely.
So what is done to show acceptance, even enjoyment of the taste and feel of a man's semen? We celebrate it, feed on it, (suck it down and swallow it) wear it and enjoy it. I rub it into my boobs. A facial. On boobs, ass or whatnot.

Bukkake, intense facials are among the most intense, rich, sensual, sexual experiences I have ever had. But I have always done it voluntarily. No one should ever be forced. That is sexual slavery. About the same as "ethnic cleansing"

You can go too far with reading comparisons between humans and animals. When Leigh brushes my hair, (something else I love) she is expressing affection, not practicing animalistic grooming rituals.
Is perfume our way of putting our scent on another to mark them? Look up the history of lipstick. It is about women drawing attention to our mouths. Why? We are attracting others by comparing our mouths to the redness of our "other lips" is the basic psycho- social reason. That the term "lipstick lesbian" is used in describing a sex positive feminist such as myself is very telling.
Besides, the argument that it just objectifies women ignores that a lot of us do it because we LIKE IT. And more importantly, it ignores the woman on woman form of the practice, called "glazing", (Self explanatory, I hope)and that gay men do it to one another as well.

If you find it repulsive, disgusting, or what ever, that's your choice.

If I don't? MY CHOICE. Women like Wendy Shalit and Ariel Levy do NOT speak for me.

But please don't drag out the "demeaning to women" point. I know lesbians who will not allow themselves to be penetrated vaginally in any fashion. Period. No toys, no tampons, not even fingers. Speculums? No. They have never ever had a "well woman" check up, a pap smear. "It's symbolic of man's historical demeaning and rape of women."

What IS demeaning to women?
During my last New Orleans Carnival, standing on a blacony, flashing my body, having fun, collecting beads as I have done a thousand times before, and hearing more vitriol than ever before. "Show it bitch" is becoming the standard yell, replacing the simple "show your tits" What else?
A woman is forced into porn or prostitution, things like forced marriage, "honor killings" sexual mutilation, archaic property laws, and the real, not symbolic subjugation and enslavement of women in our world.

*WW re-sheaths her claws*

It is my choice, I do it because I like it.

WW

[Wicked Wanda]

DAMN!





















I killed another thread.


*sigh*


When will I learn?

WW

:banghead:

[VeryLonelyMan]

WW,
I must admit I liked your last post. You rock. Just wanted to say that.

[Irezumi Kiss]

Wicked Wanda >>

You may have killed the thread, but my now-hardened cock means you gave LIFE to me!

:kisser:

Why can't they clone you and spread you across the continent instead of fucking around wit' those silly sheep?

Oh yeh...I used to get "glazed" myself from time to time....and I LOOOOOOVED it!

:heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat

[WildIrish]

instead of fucking around wit' those silly sheep?


HEY!!!!! You watch what you're saying! :mad:



:p

[Wicked Wanda]

*sigh*

I was much too much of a bitch in that post.

Mea culpa to all my friends here.

I get defensive about my sex life. I get criticized by almost everyone about my sexual preferences, by lesbians for being bi and not "committing" to the approved lesbian lifestyle, I get mean and nasty things said to me from lots of people about being a sub... cruel things said because I do not have sex with bi men, and mostly just for having a varied and open sex life, i.e. being a happy slut.

But all of that is not an excuse for being a bitch. While I do not change my feeling, thoughts and point of view on this, I should have been nicer.

Sorry.

WW

[Oldfart]

WW

There is a difference between "having your say" (as you did) and "having your spray" just to vent a bit of spleen.

I've not yet heard you go too far, even for my tender innocent ears.

The day you (or any of us) no longer say your (our) mind, the Forum is immeasurably poorer.

[mikaylasmummy]

I prsonally do not like it I would prefer my man to squirt his load on my titd

[ReaperWoman]

I don't think I can put it better than OF just did. Well-worded.

[Aqua]

WW, no need for apologies.

Were you being in a bitch in that post? Not in my eyes. You don't kill threads... you get people to think.

Please don't stop being you.

[scotzoidman]

What he^^^ said...

[Irezumi Kiss]

*sigh*

I was much too much of a bitch in that post.

Mea culpa to all my friends here.

I get defensive about my sex life. I get criticized by almost everyone about my sexual preferences, by lesbians for being bi and not "committing" to the approved lesbian lifestyle, I get mean and nasty things said to me from lots of people about being a sub... cruel things said because I do not have sex with bi men, and mostly just for having a varied and open sex life, i.e. being a happy slut.

But all of that is not an excuse for being a bitch. While I do not change my feeling, thoughts and point of view on this, I should have been nicer.

Sorry.

WW
Wanda >> I don't care if others may think you're a bitch, I'll ALWAYS have your back(side)!

Not too many people write short stories about their actual swinging night that has me raise the flag and wax the pole TWICE in one sitting. You just DON'T forget those special occassions, ey!

You bring a lot of joy to others as well as yourself. Some people will never allow themselves to be as free and open as you and will go to their graves being miserable for it, as well as make others' lives miserable as well.

You ARE dee bees knees, baby! :loveyou:

[scotzoidman]

DAMN!


I killed another thread.


*sigh*


When will I learn?

WW

:banghead:
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

(I think I spelt that rite)

I don't think you've killed a thread yet...as a nurse, I'm sure you've had a patient die right after you visited them, doesn't mean you killed them...

Often you come in a little late to some threads (as do I), after everybody has had their say...I often find that anything I have to say has already been said, using fewer & better words than I would have...you always have a refeshing viewpoint, whether I agree completely or not, I feel enlightened & sometimes challenged by your words...

Sometimes there's nothing left to add, & you can't keep blaming yourself if the thread dies a natural death...