Your Thoughts

[Lilith]

Is there justice to be found in a case like this? (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/26/yates.trial.ap/index.html)

[wyndhy]

not a whole helluvalot, but there is some.

it could be alotta some or a little some...they didn't say how long she'll be at the funny farm.

[jseal]

Lilith,

I guess it would depend upon what one would consider “Just” in this context.

[jbh3]

No,there is no justice here.
There is black and white.
And then there's gray.
This is gray

BTW....the "funny farm" is neither funny nor a farm.

[Satyriasis]

Justice?

In America?

:shrug:

[jseal]

Satyriasis,

Yes.

[Satyriasis]

Satyriasis,

Yes.

May I ask where the justice is for the indigenous people of North America?

Or the justice for the slaves taken from their homeland and brough to America?

I look forward to your reply.

:huh:

[gekkogecko]

Tanj.

[scotzoidman]

My wife has assured me that post-partum symptoms can be a real nightmare...that Mrs Yates went over the edge & acted on her psychosis is a nightmare she'll have to live with for the rest of her life...there is a broad misconception that being institutionalized is somehow "getting away with murder," but that is a lie...

I guess the short answer is there was no justice before when she was convicted, & there is no justice for anyone now, no can there ever be...

[Scarecrow]

May I ask where the justice is for the indigenous people of North America?

I look forward to your reply.

:huh:

There are NO indigenous people of North America, they immigrated from Siberia. And as for what happened to them, just look up what they did to each other before anyone else came along. They were not the innocent poeple that some like to make them out to be.

[Lilith]

:jacques: :banghead:

[jseal]

Satyriasis,

^^^ Alas sir, you will have to wait for some considerable time. ^^^

Should you wish to explore this subject, you know how to find me. :)

[Satyriasis]

There are NO indigenous people of North America, they immigrated from Siberia. And as for what happened to them, just look up what they did to each other before anyone else came along. They were not the innocent poeple that some like to make them out to be.

Where in my original post did I say they were innocent? Kindly point that out to me.

And they were indigenous people.

Regardless, after what happened to them and after what happened to the Africans, America is one of the last country's to talk about justice.

[osuche]

Yates did something horrible, and I'd be surprized to see her out of the funny farm quickly. I suspect the media coverage alone is a cautionary tale for both doctors and other moms who've dreamed about drowning their young.

Did she act crazy? Yes, certainly.

[maddy]

I still think Mr Yates has some responsibility in all this. Just my two cents.

[Glyndwr]

Anyway, back to the original question.

Cases like this will never be able to have 'justice seen to be done' there is always a counter argument to whichever verdict is posted. All that can be done is to try to make sure that the woman involved is not able to carry out such an act again. That is for the medical world to sort out not the legal one.

[jseal]

Lilith,

I think justice was served, if very expensively, in this case. The facts of the case were examined twice, and the error in law that the first trial judge made was corrected by the appeals court. It seems to me that it would have been a miscarriage of justice to imprison for life a woman who was legally insane when she committed the crime.

[lonelyarmywife]

Regardless of whether Tom Cruise wants to admit it or not, post partum depression is a very, very real and serious mental disease. The woman had 5 children in seven years, and apparantly very little help taking care of them. A woman's body can't heal properly under those conditions, so yes, I think if nothing else she went crazy from the stress of it all. It's just sad to me that no one paid enough attention to see the signs...I'm sure this wasn't her only "bizarre" action.



LAW

[Pita]

Lilith,

I think justice was served, if very expensively, in this case. The facts of the case were examined twice, and the error in law that the first trial judge made was corrected by the appeals court. It seems to me that it would have been a miscarriage of justice to imprison for life a woman who was legally insane when she committed the crime.


I think justice was served in this case as well. However, I certainly don't want to hear in say 3 to 5 years that Andrea was released from the mental facility, declared sane, and gets pregnant again. The thought of her ever having children is hideous to me. :boohoo:

[lonelyarmywife]

So in this case, would you be a proponent of government ordered sterilization?

*Discliamer: Not trying to be a smartass, but genuinely curious as to people's thoughts on it.

[Lilith]

I had that same question. Having had close friends who had a mentally handicapped child who became an adult and repeatedly had children who had to be taken away due to her inability to care for them, I have always walked the line on sterilization. Such a hard choice.

[Scarecrow]

From what I have seen I do not think she will ever be let free. They(?) said that when she started to recover from the depression she is in that she realized what she had done to her childern and it sent her back into a deeper depression. I heard this on one of the 24hr news channels while surfing the web, so I did not get any sources.

[jseal]

... would you be a proponent of government ordered sterilization?
lonelyarmywife,

Tough question! While I am a firm believer that there is an exception to every rule, and that Andrea Yates is as good a candidate as I can think of for forced sterilization, eugenics is a dangerous, slippery slope.

Forced sterilization is about as absolute as the death penalty. I’d think long and hard before authorizing the State to do that to its citizens.