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lakritze
05-01-2006, 02:08 PM
Are you dreaming of Gas prices falling to $1.50 a gallon? Can it be a reality again? Consider this. The buyers control the market,not the sellers. For the rest of the year,DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest oil companies: Exxon and Mobil which are now one giant company.If they are not selling gas,they will have to reduce their prices,the other companies will have to follow suite,right? But to have an impact,we need to reach millions of EXXON-MOBIL gas buyers. How do we do that? By use of the internet and word of mouth. I tell 10 friends,you tell 10 friends, they tell 10 friends and so on and so on and so on. Will it work? If this makes sense to you,pass this information along.Stop buying your gasoline from EXXON-MOBIL,cut up your Mobil credit card and see if we the people can't get gas prices down to around $1.30 a gallon.In the good old days,this was called a GAS WAR.
Sharni
05-01-2006, 06:47 PM
We are currently sitting at
AU$1:33/litre for Unleaded
AU$1:40/litre for Diesel
AU$0.61 for Gas
Not sure what E10 or Premium Unleaded are going for
Tis a damn rip off anyway!!
lizzardbits
05-01-2006, 09:08 PM
I thought that i recognized that...I had gotten a few chian-mail emails on it and I researched and although it sounds like a good idea, it is just an urban hoax.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp
"Claim: Participating in a boycott of selected oil companies will lower gasoline prices.
Status: False. "
~and~
"Origins: This year's litany of complaints about gasoline prices is a re-run of the same program from years past: Gasoline prices in the USA are too high; gasoline is a unique commodity whose price isn't subject to the usual market forces of supply and demand; OPEC and greedy American oil companies secretly manipulate the market to keep prices artificially high; and a simple boycott of a couple of brands of gasoline will rectify all
this.
Oil companies can manipulate their prices somewhat by controlling how much gasoline they produce and where they sell it, but they can't alter the basics of supply and demand: prices go down when people buy less of a good, prices go up when people buy more of a good, and prices go way up when demand outstrips available supply. The "gas out" schemes that propose to alter the demand side of the equation by shunning one or two specific brands of gasoline for a while won't work, however, because they're based on the misconception that an oil company's only outlet for gasoline is its own branded service stations. That isn't the case: gasoline is a fungible commodity, so if one oil company's product isn't being bought up in one particular market or outlet, it will simply sell its output to (or through) other outlets:
Economics Prof. Pat Welch of St. Louis University says any boycott of "bad guy" gasoline in favor of "good guy" brands would have some unintended (and unhappy) results.
. . . Welch says the law of supply and demand is set in stone. "To meet the sudden demand," he says, "the good guys would have to buy gasoline wholesale from the bad guys, who are suddenly stuck with unwanted gasoline."
So motorists would end up . . . paying more for it, because they'd be buying it at fewer stations.
And yes, oil companies do buy and sell from one another. Mike Right of AAA Missouri says, "If a company has a station that can be served more economically by a competitor's refinery, they'll do it."
Right adds, "In some cases, gasoline retailers have no refinery at all. Some convenience-store chains sell a lot of gasoline — and buy it all from somebody else's refinery."
A boycott of a couple of brands of gasoline won't result in lower overall prices. Prices at all the non-boycotted outlets would rise due to the temporarily limited supply and increased demand, making the original prices look cheap by comparison. The shunned outlets could then make a killing by offering gasoline at its "normal" (i.e., pre-boycott) price or by selling off their output to the non-boycotted companies, who will need the extra supply to meet demand. The only person who really gets hurt in this proposed scheme is the service station operator, who has almost no control over the price of gasoline.
The only practical way of reducing gasoline prices is through the straightforward means of buying less gasoline, not through a simple and painless scheme of just shifting where we buy it. The inconvenience of driving less is a hardship too many people apparently aren't willing to endure, however. "
jseal
05-02-2006, 05:01 AM
lizzardbits,
Oh well, it looked good on paper. :rolleyes:
WildIrish
05-02-2006, 06:55 AM
We have two gas stations in town. Yes, a whopping two. lmfao One's a Mobil and the other a Citgo.
We used to joke about what would happen if one decided to drop it's price a penny lower than the other and the maylay that would follow. Until we found out they were owned by the same peckerhead. :(
No gas wars in our town except the ones that take place after the VFW's Ham & Bean Supper. :p
PantyFanatic
05-02-2006, 08:00 AM
Note:
We are currently sitting at
AU$1:33/litre for Unleaded = USD$3.82/Gal.
AU$1:40/litre for Diesel = USD$4.01/Gal.
AU$0.61 for Gas
Not sure what E10 or Premium Unleaded are going for
Tis a damn rip off anyway!!
(1 Gal. = 3.7854 lt, AUD$1 = USD$.76 )
scotzoidman
05-02-2006, 09:38 AM
In any event, it would be my luck to get a job driving for a living just as the price of gas goes thru the fuckin' roof...
moose
05-02-2006, 09:54 AM
They tried some thing simular in Melbourne it did absolutly nothing as it did not get common support and fizzed out, we have all the large super market chains offering 4c a litre of the cost of petrol if you spend $30 or more at their shop, so prople go to these stores and spend their money to get the docket for the discount, so lets look at the process in detail :- most cars have around a 60 litre tank assuming they are driving around on fumes, they buy their food get the docket then go fill the car that cost $83.40(@$1.39ltr) + $30.00 for the food = $113.40 and for that they get $2.40 back on the petrol that has a inflated price to cover the cost of the 4c program, so how dumb are we, have we forgot you dont get something for nothing.
by the way Sharni LPG is 42c here
wyndhy
05-02-2006, 01:19 PM
not to mention that gas/oil usage is a worldwide need and the skyrocketing consumption of the up and coming world powers fuels (hehe) much of that demand. shall we tell china and india to take it easy on the supply so that we can fill our suburban uhsault vehicles for less? the gas companies are not non-profit orgs, they have every right to make as much of a profit as they can. these recent allegations of price gouging are ridiculous. stop the subsidies first.
Sharni
05-02-2006, 01:20 PM
by the way Sharni LPG is 42c here
We Qlders are definately getting ripped off.....we pay in our rego so we can get cheaper fuel...pfffttttt....so much for that then...dear fuel and dear rego!
Winston77
05-02-2006, 01:30 PM
Hey i just paid 2 cents less per gallon then I did the other day :)
Scarecrow
05-02-2006, 06:52 PM
E85 was selling for $2.26 a gallon just the other day. You get lower fuel mileage with E85, but if the price difference is more than $.40 a gallon you are paying less per mile. Of coures you have to have a FFV(flex-fuel vehicle). :)
bare4you
05-02-2006, 09:55 PM
Can anyone else living today remember when a gas war meant 15 cents a gallon???????
PantyFanatic
05-02-2006, 10:32 PM
Can anyone else living today remember when a gas war meant 15 cents a gallon???????
And you got a glass or a dish. :D rofl
PantyFanatic
05-02-2006, 10:35 PM
.... and Eagle Stamp, from the man that PUMPED your gas, washed your windshield and checked your oil and water. :rolleyes:
sodaklostsoul
05-02-2006, 10:36 PM
I can remember somthing about green stamps.
PantyFanatic
05-02-2006, 10:57 PM
That was them ;)
PantyFanatic
05-02-2006, 11:20 PM
I just googled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_stamp) “Eagle Stamps” and “Green Stamps”.
They talked a lot about S&H being “green stamps”. :confused: In our area there were a FEW merchants that gave S&H stamps, but I remember them as being yellow. We had Eagle Stamps the were green in color and given out by many different merchants and especially gas stations. There was one major down-town department store (May Company [where the department store scene in Christmas Story was filmed] that was the local cash-in center where you could get cash for them at their cashier back or use them on the floor as money.
Scarecrow
05-03-2006, 04:15 PM
We had the S&H Green Stamps and a dish or glass with each fill-up and somebody besides you pumped the gas and wash the windows. Ohh full service filling stations...
bare4you
05-03-2006, 06:23 PM
I too remember the S&H Green stamps. Where I grew up they were more popular than the Eagle stamps. I hated licking all those freakin stamps every month but loved taking the books down to the local redemption store every month and being able to "buy" some worthless piece of crap we really didn't need but just had to have it. Life was so much simpler then.
As for the full service stations - did you know that it is law in Oregon that you can NOT pump your own gas? I guess it's a way to make sure there are jobs out there for everyone. Funny thing is - they don't tell you about it until after you start pumping your own gas and then the attendant comes out and yells at you. Forget the fact that the clown took his/her sweet time getting off their butt to begin with!
maddy
05-03-2006, 07:02 PM
Full service is the only way in New Jersey as well. Though I've never had to wait - the pumpers stand right near the pumps.
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