Y - Virgins!!!

[LilAngie]

so hey why is it so important to guys to have a virgin if they can? I mean is it really some big deal to have a virgin? Wouldn't it be just as nice to be with a girl who wasn't a virgin and not entice virgins to have sex?? Just asking! let me know as soon as possible, here, or at see you later! ;)

[Matte]

this is prolly the last board youll find that prefers virgins to experience. ;)

[scotzoidman]

nor are ya likely to find a bunch of guys hunting for virgins around here

[Fangtasia]

It can be important for girls too ya know (guys being virgins).....not me personally i dont care either way

My best mate back when had a thing for virgin guys....wouldn't sleep with em unless they were either *LOL*

[Loulabelle]

I think some people get a kick out of being someone's first...it makes them feel special. Also, the fact that a virgin can't possibly compare a man's performance to anything else, means that some men may be more confident and suffer less performance anxiety than with a more experienced partner.

Then of course, there are just the lazy ones who thinking sleeping with a virgin is a good excuse not to use a condom.

[Matte]

never thought about it like that Loulabelle. thats some good shit right there.

*starts takin notes*






tho it is kinda nasty when ya think about it.

[LilAngie]

just wanted different answers, sorry to biother everyone. :rolleyes:

[Loulabelle]

You'll get more answers as time goes along...you only posted the thread this morning, and most of the Americans aren't even up yet!

[jbh3]

I think some people get a kick out of being someone's first...it makes them feel special. Also, the fact that a virgin can't possibly compare a man's performance to anything else, means that some men may be more confident and suffer less performance anxiety than with a more experienced partner.

Then of course, there are just the lazy ones who thinking sleeping with a virgin is a good excuse not to use a condom.

If you just lay there and let a man fuck you without a condom,you're just as lazy as he is.Funny how women want to be on an equal plane with men(AND THEY SHOULD BE) but get to play the soft,vulnerable bunny at their leisure.

Lil'Angie...if virgins weren't "enticed?" into sex the world would be full of "Grapes" and Cherries" masturbating and eventually dryin' up in the sun.

[Casperr]

Yeah, it's the American's fault. Always is :P

Alasse - you got the contact details for your friend? I might have a little job for her to do ;)

As for why virgins are supposedly desirable - never really thought about it but I think there are probably two angles to it.
On one hand, there's something 'pure' about a virgin - corrupting her is a kind of guilty pleasure. It's nasty, taboo - it's special.
And then there's the perceivd physical advantage. Virgins are tighter, and tighter supposedly equals good.
And also (ok, three angles to it), virgins tend to be younger, and youth means virility (up to a point, of course. I'm not talking kiddies here). I don't know if a 40 year old virgin woman is any more sought after. But an 18 or 21 year old virgin? Every second website's got 'em.
Another thing (ok, four angles), as Loulabelle said it's 'special' to be someone's first. Probably a competitive thing, I got her before anyone else did.

Sheesh, I never expected the Spanish Inquisition!

Buit in any case, as Matte suggested these forums tend to be frequented by a more sophisticated kind of person. People here tend to be smart enough to realise that a person's sexual history is just one part of their overall sexuality, and an even smaller part of their overall identity.

Experience goes a long way, but attitude goes much further.

Lil'Angie...if virgins weren't "enticed?" into sex the world would be full of "Grapes" and Cherries" masturbating and eventually dryin' up in the sun.
Ok, well that confused the almighty crap out of me.....

CasperTG.

[jbh3]

""Ok, well that confused the almighty crap out of me....."-CasperTG

A women is a virgin if she still has her cherry
A man is a virgin if he still has his grape <-Don't know if "grape" is a widely used term--apparently not :)

[Loulabelle]

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If you just lay there and let a man fuck you without a condom,you're just as lazy as he is.Funny how women want to be on an equal plane with men(AND THEY SHOULD BE) but get to play the soft,vulnerable bunny at their leisure.

Lil'Angie...if virgins weren't "enticed?" into sex the world would be full of "Grapes" and Cherries" masturbating and eventually dryin' up in the sun.

Well that'll be the reason that I've never laid there and let a man fuck me without a condom then. The question was why men are attracted to virgins, and this was one possible theory as to why some men are.

And for your information, just as the vast majority of men are not lazy about using condoms (but some are), the vast majority of women DO NOT play at being soft vulnerable bunnies.

We are, as a gender more emotional and more sensitive than men, and for many many years we've been treated with a lack of equality because of it. All we want now is to be respected for being females who act in a feminine way. I'm sorry I didn't realise that by demanding equality we had forgone our right to act like women. I'll surely remember that in future.

*locks herself back into her chastity belt and sits in the corner not speaking until spoken to*

[jbh3]

Well that'll be the reason that I've never laid there and let a man fuck me without a condom then. The question was why men are attracted to virgins, and this was one possible theory as to why some men are.

And for your information, just as the vast majority of men are not lazy about using condoms (but some are), the vast majority of women DO NOT play at being soft vulnerable bunnies.

We are, as a gender more emotional and more sensitive than men, and for many many years we've been treated with a lack of equality because of it. All we want now is to be respected for being females who act in a feminine way. I'm sorry I didn't realise that by demanding equality we had forgone our right to act like women. I'll surely remember that in future.

*locks herself back into her chastity belt and sits in the corner not speaking until spoken to*

Have a nice day :)

[WildIrish]

You can't help who you love. And I won't sleep with someone I don't. So it's not really rellevant. <---- that can't be spelled right but it looks less wrong than the other 957,235 ways I tried :D

[WildIrish]

/me speaks to Loulabelle :p

[Casperr]

*locks herself back into her chastity belt and sits in the corner not speaking until spoken to*
Any chance of some pics?????????? ;) C'mon, you know I love chastity belts!!


This thread wasn't really about condoms, gender responsibility, or even bunnies. Although bunnies are cool. I think a lot of women are, to their credit, extremely careful about safe sex - as well they should be. I think both Loulabelle and jbh3 would both actually agree that both partners have an equal responsibility to safe sex. I also don't think that Loulabelle's comments were excusing women of laying down and being vulnerable bunnies. To tell the truth I think jbh3 may have a point that may deserve further comment - in a thread of its own.

The question being considered is why is it considered - amongst some men - better or more desirably to take a virgin's cherry. What's so special about 'em?

CasperTG.

[LilAngie]

alright so if the boys out there are telling a girl that I might know that she's overdue to give up her cherry , that's normal and even considered alright.
and a virgin is highly desired because it might be neat to be the boy who removes whats pure in her and even give a couple tears running down her face ( something said before about it being a guilty pleasure ) and I've gathered an interest in being able to control her.
and a virgin i special cuase of her purity and tightness ( whatever you mean by that ) which makes me wonder what a girl is after she no longer has this cherry ( whatever that is ).
and as I've heard if we dress nice in our teen years and look real good and don't go out much, we are a tease to boys and it I guess tortures them as they say, and makes them refer to us in terms I don't like.
so I guess my mom is right it is a man's world. so I wonder should this girl resist men like some women do and treat them as badly as they're treated, or give in to men? since they don't seem to stop asking and whining and begging...etc. you tell me thanx Angie! :)

[LilAngie]

you can talk to me tonight on Gmail if you so choose, my computer has been weird so it's going into the shop and I plan to talk as much as i can to anyone who will listen and give me GOOD advice. thanx, Angie! :)

[jbh3]

alright so if the boys out there are telling a girl that I might know that she's overdue to give up her cherry , that's normal and even considered alright.
and a virgin is highly desired because it might be neat to be the boy who removes whats pure in her and even give a couple tears running down her face ( something said before about it being a guilty pleasure ) and I've gathered an interest in being able to control her.
and a virgin i special cuase of her purity and tightness ( whatever you mean by that ) which makes me wonder what a girl is after she no longer has this cherry ( whatever that is ).
and as I've heard if we dress nice in our teen years and look real good and don't go out much, we are a tease to boys and it I guess tortures them as they say, and makes them refer to us in terms I don't like.
so I guess my mom is right it is a man's world. so I wonder should this girl resist men like some women do and treat them as badly as they're treated, or give in to men? since they don't seem to stop asking and whining and begging...etc. you tell me thanx Angie! :)

How old are you?

[BruceandNan]

so hey why is it so important to guys to have a virgin if they can? I mean is it really some big deal to have a virgin? Wouldn't it be just as nice to be with a girl who wasn't a virgin and not entice virgins to have sex?? Just asking! let me know as soon as possible, here, or at [email protected] see you later! ;)




My feeling is that most men feel it is a conquest, a rite of passage and also gives them bragging rights to bed a virgin. I myself never had the occassion to be so lucky, but then again I was a virgin until I was 19.

[Oldfart]

"just wanted different answers"

Perhaps you should have asked a different question.

Virginity as a sought after commodity goes back to the dawn of time, where the boss ape got the jollies.

In the dark and middle ages, the feudal Lord had the task of deflowering the local virgins, known as

"droit de seigneur", the right of the Lord.

It's a power/dominance/ego/peer bit of bullshit used by people to put a bit of assumed importance into their lives.

Personally, I feel that if a woman hasn't a clue about what she's doing, the chances of either of

us enjoying ourselves is slight.

[Matte]

How old are you?

funniest reply EVER! :)

[Loulabelle]

alright so if the boys out there are telling a girl that I might know that she's overdue to give up her cherry , that's normal and even considered alright.
and a virgin is highly desired because it might be neat to be the boy who removes whats pure in her and even give a couple tears running down her face ( something said before about it being a guilty pleasure ) and I've gathered an interest in being able to control her.
and a virgin i special cuase of her purity and tightness ( whatever you mean by that ) which makes me wonder what a girl is after she no longer has this cherry ( whatever that is ).
and as I've heard if we dress nice in our teen years and look real good and don't go out much, we are a tease to boys and it I guess tortures them as they say, and makes them refer to us in terms I don't like.
so I guess my mom is right it is a man's world. so I wonder should this girl resist men like some women do and treat them as badly as they're treated, or give in to men? since they don't seem to stop asking and whining and begging...etc. you tell me thanx Angie! :)

Angie no-one said it's ok to put pressure on another person to have sex. It's not.

You asked why some men like virgins and we told you a couple of theories.

You should have sex when you want to with someone you want to and when you feel ready for it. Dressing nice and not going out much does not make you a tease and boys only say that as a way of getting you to sleep with them.

Sex is NOT and should NEVER be about 'giving in to' someone. It's an expression of love and should be a pleasurable experience for both parties. Doing it because you're giving in to men, is not the right reason to have sex...whether you're a virgin or you've slept with half the town. Do it because you want to share that closeness with a specific person and for no other reason.

It's not a man's world, and saying 'no' to a man is not treating him badly. It's treating yourself with the respect that you deserve.

[Casperr]

Top marks for you, Loulabelle!!!


She has brains, has Lou. Smart chicks rock!
CasperTG

[LilAngie]

look just be straight with me about everything and don't ask my age because it's not only me trying to understand all this stuff, I have to friends that get this pressure too, and I get that it's normal for guys to try so I'm just looking for some answers without the writing around the bush so to speak or sugar-coating it. Just give it to us straight please. ;)

[LilAngie]

Guys make out like it's the biggest thing to have sex with a virgin. I mean what is the difference in sex with a virgin than a girl who isn't. really it's got be the same right?! and if it's so great for us why do you hear all these horror stories from girls and even some boys about it?! I mean these guys tease and bug you till your head is ready to expode! :eek: and the idea of hearing in the hallways that a guy is describing what you look like naked and what he did to you is enough to make you wanna die!! :confused: so anyway what's it all mean and what should girls do when their fed up?!! I mean sometimes I feel like if I do it'll shut'em up, but then there's the fears I have and my freinds too. especially one of my freinds, she has a real bad time with little pains let alone a major one. sometimes her periods put her in tears. so stop twisting words around and just let us know the things I feel we have every right to know. thanx, Angie & company!! :)

[Aqua]

How many guys have personally told you that having a virgin is a big thing for them? I've known a couple that have mentioned they like the idea of being with a virgin, but most guys I have known don't have a preference. If anything their preference is for a woman that isn't a virgin.

You mentioned teasing in hallways and that sounds to me like you're in high school. The biggest thing you're up against is immaturity. I know it's easier said then done, but ignore them.

No one should have sex for the sake of 'giving in'... that leads to problems. Not only immediate problems, but relationship problems down the road, so to speak.

To bring this back to your original question, a lot of theories have been presented here and I think they all have some validity as to why some guys might prefer virgins. But there is not a single answer that explains it all.

[LilAngie]

for 1 alot of guys have said they want a virgin, and a few said they love it with a virgin. i don't care if you think we are immature. we will find out what we need to know thank you.

[Aqua]

I was speaking of the immaturity of the guys you are speaking of in the hall way.

Define 'a lot'. How many have personally told you that they want a virgin?

[Jude30]

You sound like you're rather young, teenager I mean. So of course guys your age are going to say they want a virgin because they think that's what they're supposed to want.

Just a suggestion, don't get so pissy about the answers you get. If you ask a question on a public message board you're going to get a wide range of answers. Some you're going to like and some you're not going to like. It's just the way it is.

[imaginewithme]

for 1 alot of guys have said they want a virgin, and a few said they love it with a virgin. i don't care if you think we are immature. we will find out what we need to know thank you.
What is it you want to know? Seems like all the above have posted some good comments.

[BIBI]

LilAngie,

Were you really born in 1977 as your bio states?

Cause I am taking bets! :p

[Loulabelle]

Lil Angie,

We've posted our theories on why guys want virgins, but let me tell you, if you have sex with one of these guys, then they WILL tell all their friends, and then you'll find out that guys don't just want virgins they want girls they can fuck. You're worth more than that.

If you get pressure from guys, tell them to fuck off. You don't want them, you don't love them, why the hell would you let them anywhere near you?

Since you don't seem to be happy with the honest answers you're getting here, maybe what you want to hear is what losing your virginity is going to be like. OK, I'll tell you:

If you lose it to one of these pathetic little boys who are pressuring you, it will probably be painful (as you're not likely to be sexually aroused by him beforehand - if he doesn't even have the patience to date you first, then he sure as hell isn't going to be worried about foreplay!) it will probably not bring you much pleasure, as these boys evidently have very little care for your enjoyment, it will probably be all rather confusing and not make you feel any the wiser about sex than you were before and it will probably make you feel used and dirty because these guys don't give a shit about you. All in all, probably the only good thing about it is that it will undoubdtedly be over quickly.

Wait a couple of years....find someone who cares about you and whom you're attracted to; someone you trust not to hurt you physically or emotionally and who you know will be discreet, build up to it slowly over the weeks/months so that when you finally do it, it doesn't feel like a huge step, but rather a natural progression for you both, and THEN you'll find out what the fuss is all about.

OK, Lil Angie, let's see if most of the ladies here agree with me on this....if they do, then maybe that's the honest answer you've been looking for.

[WildIrish]

It sounds like honest answers are not what you're looking for so I'll just tell you what you want to hear.

All men want to fuck virgins because we hate following someone else. We will always have the fear that we're not as endowed or talented as our predecessors, so we prefer to fuck naive and inexperienced girls that don't know any better. It also makes us feel more masculine, because as you know...men are hunters and warriors. We hunt and we conquer. When we bag a virgin, it's a conquest. We tell everyone about it like a hunter displays trophies and animal heads on the wall, because others must know how macho we are to have done such a manly thing.

There...does that help?

Just because there are males (I won't call them men) out there that think like this doesn't mean everyone with a penis does. But you can ignore this little bit if it doesn't fit into your obviously set mind.

[jbh3]

Is My Space full??

[lizzardbits]

LilAngie,

Were you really born in 1977 as your bio states?

Cause I am taking bets! :p
5 bucks says that angie and company were born between 1990 to 1992.

[Jude30]

Hell I've got $5 that says she never posts again.

[SexKittten_18]

I agree with Lou. I was 18 or so when I lost my virginity, and I thought I was in love with the guy I was with. I made a mistake, I did it because I thought he wanted to and (unbeknownst to him) I felt slightly pressured. I regret not waiting until I was absolutely sure. So if I were you, I would take the good wisdom that Lou has just handed down (anyone know if she's an advice angel by any chance? ^-^) and take it to heart. Wise words from wise people is how we learn, and from your posts, I would say you definetely need to wait longer until you've all matured.

Just my two cents though =) Like WI said, you can ignore it if you want

[rumrunner]

We can all agree that we all have a first time.

1.As for a young male teen most of the time "I was the first" a compition so to say hopefully as we get older we out grow that tenency.
2.The decision you make is a milestone in life wether it's happens to be Great,good, bad or indifferent. We may forget about a one night stand or the middle of a long term relationship but some how you always remember that first time.
3. You need to be ready if there is any doubt wait.
4.As for some pixies folks we needn't so harsh on the girl this might be the only place she felt comfortable to ask.

Hope it helped

[Loulabelle]

That may well be rumrunner, but if she's under 18 she is breaking the law being here. We suspect she's not being honest with us, we've tried to help her and tell her what she needs to know, but she accuses us of 'not giving it to her straight'. Maybe that means being harsh. Reality is harsh. Losing your virginity when you're too young/immature to deal with is DEFINITELY harsh.

[sassee]

That may well be rumrunner, but if she's under 18 she is breaking the law being here. We suspect she's not being honest with us, we've tried to help her and tell her what she needs to know, but she accuses us of 'not giving it to her straight'. Maybe that means being harsh. Reality is harsh. Losing your virginity when you're too young/immature to deal with is DEFINITELY harsh.

(I've never posted before, but have read for a long time. I'm finally being a little daring.)

I agree. I lost my virginity to a boy when I was ... well, too young, and it was definitely not worth it. While I don't exactly regret a lot of the choices I've made (I'm 19 and have slept with 9 people in 5 years) because they made me the person I am now, I would love now if I could have had my first experience with someone I cared about and someone who cared about me in return.

Reality is harsh. And I guess you can't appreciate other people's efforts and words until you've been there, eh?

[Loulabelle]

sassee, thanks for adding weight to my argument.

I don't know a single woman who regrets 'waiting' until it felt right, but I know plenty who regret NOT waiting.

Trouble is, your first experience stays with you and influences your later experiences, pretty much the whole way through your life. You need to do everything in your power to ensure that that experience is a good one.

[sassee]

sassee, thanks for adding weight to my argument.

I don't know a single woman who regrets 'waiting' until it felt right, but I know plenty who regret NOT waiting.

Trouble is, your first experience stays with you and influences your later experiences, pretty much the whole way through your life. You need to do everything in your power to ensure that that experience is a good one.

No doubt. I spent a lot of time drifting from boy to boy after I lost my virginity and none of the experiences I had were good. Low self-esteem and self-respect led me to one too many people who could not appreciate me. I thought that if I had sex with someone, that meant that they would like me. Definitely NOT true.

Anyway, I won't whine too much because now I'm with someone who loves and appreciates me, and I try not to think about those past experiences too much, although I know that they make me appreciate what I have much more now.

And I can definitely agree with people regretting not waiting. I've never met someone who did wait who said, "Oh, well, that was really stupid."