Replacing timing belt

[Lion]

I have a 2000 Acura TL with 58,000 miles. The service department is telling me it should be replaced now at a cost of $800.00. The manual states to replace at 105,000 miles or at 7 years. The car is only 6 years with low milage. Can anyone offer experienced advice?
Thanks, Lion

[edndeb]

best to replace it earlier than later if it breaks it can cause major damage im in australia and all our vehicles recomend replacing at 100 000 km =60 000 miles hope this helps as im in the auto trade cheers

[WildIrish]

Like any other source of information...the answer you get depends on who you ask. :rolleyes:


Here's what I came up with.


click here (http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45734)

[PantyFanatic]

My first question is how is the car running? If this is something being suggested as routine maintenance, I’d pick the time and way I wanted to do it. Someone mentioned to me that if the belt lets go, you could end up with the pistons hitting the open valves and bending them. I can’t say I understand that completely, but I would check that out before anything else. If it’s a fact, get it done ASAP. If the valve issues proves to be untrue, (which I expect) then run it. The worst you’ll get is a $40 tow charge. How much available time, tools and a place to do it, do you have? It’s not a complicated job but very labor intense with a $35 part.

Regardless of who or when it’s done, have the water pump changed at the same time.

Just some thoughts of somebody that hates screwing with cars.

[jbh3]

I'd have to agree with PF.Get it done when you can if its running alright.I never pay attention to the "years" on scheduled maintenance.It's a crock!Go by miles...be it 7 or 14 years 50,000 miles is still 50,000 miles.Unles there's a warranty involved,then the # of years doesn't matter(IMO).I'd also agrree with PF on the waterpump,two items replaced with one labor cost,will save you a separate labor charge for the waterpump at a later date.

[PantyFanatic]

WildIrish’s link was great and showed there are a number of thoughts and experiences on the matter. I do still feel $800 is on the high side and 58K miles is on the low side for the job. The link from that other site didn’t work, but a number of references WERE about the pistons hitting the valves. I would have liked to see the diagram referred to, but if the clearance at TDC to an open valve is that close, don’t screw around with it.

[Aqua]

I know for a fact that there are some vehicles that can end up with a ruined motor if the belt breaks. From reading on the site that WI linked to, it sounds like your car could be one of them. (The cars I have known this to happen on were 4 cyl. Fords) Bent valves and holes in the pistons... it was ugly AND expensive. I'd err to the side of caution. I'd also add that your driving habits could influence your decision as well. Do you drive your car hard, launching at stop lights and such that could put more stress on the engine/belt or do you drive fairly benign, casually bringing your car up to the speed limit and not exceeding it? If it's the former, don't wait to long before changing the belt. If it's the latter you can likely wait until the 100k mile mark.

Has the service dept given any reason for changing the belt now, rather than when the manual states to do it?

[Lion]

Thanks for all the replys. The car runs great and the manual states to change the belt at 105,000 or 7 years. So there is no rush at this time and thanks again for your help. :)

[Oldfart]

Lion, just one word of caution.

A timing belt is rubber, just like a tyre, and given a number of warm up and cool down cycles, will

eventually perish and break.

A lot of short trips can age these things prematurely.

Ask the service staff member why the early replacement.

If he can come up with a compelling reason, listen, otherwise just tell him very gently

to keep his cotton picking gouging avaricious paws out of your wallet.

[txgrneyes]

I just had to replace mine in a 98 Ford Contour. It cost $497.87. But I lucked out and got the towing for free ( wont say how on that) :rolleyes: . So my advice is if you need it done do it. It isn't nice when the damn thing just up and breaks on ya. :mad:

[bare4you]

TIMING BELT for a car - shoot thought you had found a new sex aid!

I agree that you should have it thoroughly checked along with everything else if you even suspect there is an issue. Although the price seems high - it is still cheaper than having to put in a new engine or buying a new car.

[Lion]

Thanks again to all that have responded to help me with this issue. Since there is no indication that there is are will be a problem in the near future, I think I will follow the advice stated in the manual and have it replaced at the 7 year mark since I will only have about 70,000 miles.

[Fangtasia]

Well as someone who know what happens when one breaks...get it replaced if the say it should be!

We were advised to replace it and though nahhhhh its fine (it looked ok to us) we can do a bit more....yes well after permanant damage to the engine and a fire later we thought from then on we should listen to those that know best....a costly costly error on our part

We were thinking of our out of pocket costs to get the belt replaced....yeah we it would've been a shitload cheaper than the cost we ended up with when the damn thing broke

Just a warning from someone whos been there done that...but your choice

[Lion]

Well as someone who know what happens when one breaks...get it replaced if the say it should be!

We were advised to replace it and though nahhhhh its fine (it looked ok to us) we can do a bit more....yes well after permanant damage to the engine and a fire later we thought from then on we should listen to those that know best....a costly costly error on our part

We were thinking of our out of pocket costs to get the belt replaced....yeah we it would've been a shitload cheaper than the cost we ended up with when the damn thing broke

Just a warning from someone whos been there done that...but your choice
Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. The service man at my dealership only mentioned that it's getting clse to the time that it should be replaced, there is no problen or issue at this time. Upon further reasearch, a belt manufacturing company recommends following the owners manual and not replace it until it hits 105,000 miles. So I think I will replace it at 70,000.

[jay-t]

they are called interference fit motors if the timing belt goes it can and probly will put a valve through a piston ,so change it when the manual says to!!! At $800 must be a new car dealership? Ask around about an independant shop your friends and co-workers it should run about $450 at least it does around here. your biggest problem will be with the belt streching and jumping time so maybe a little ahead of schedule change the belt

[Lion]

Again, thanks to all for your good advice and information.

[Fangtasia]

Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. The service man at my dealership only mentioned that it's getting clse to the time that it should be replaced, there is no problen or issue at this time. Upon further reasearch, a belt manufacturing company recommends following the owners manual and not replace it until it hits 105,000 miles. So I think I will replace it at 70,000.
I didnt misunderstand

My service man also told me the same (maybe a wee bit of wear but nothing major)...nor was my belt due according to the manual

But like i said your choice....you asked for advice...i gave it, take it or leave it

[Lion]

I didnt misunderstand

My service man also told me the same (maybe a wee bit of wear but nothing major)...nor was my belt due according to the manual

But like i said your choice....you asked for advice...i gave it, take it or leave it
What was the make and model of your car?

[scotzoidman]

just recently had the timing belt break on my 97 Voyager minivan, it just died on the wife one afternoon on her way home...even with the tow (fortunately it was close to home) I was able to get it replaced by my local mechanic (who also happens to be a classmate from high school) for about $200, so I suggest that you shop around for a better price from a reliable shop, & do it at the recommended milage...timing belts are the great mystery item, ya never know when they'll go...

[osuche]

Lion:

try www.cartalk.com

They have a mechanic finder at the left of the page. Type in your zip code and then look for mechanics wth favorable reviews (user-based system where you can submit ratings and comments about mechanics) who service your kind of car.

I've used this service exclusively for 3 years and have found some true gem mechanics.

[sunrise_dawn]

What has fitting a new timing belt 4 a car got 2 do with anyone in here at pixie place. Surely the best place would be a repair shop etc. I would never go 2 a garage n ask 4 advice if i was feeling unwell.

[WildIrish]

Further proof that we're not your typical porn site.


We're friends that have seen each other naked.

[Lion]

What has fitting a new timing belt 4 a car got 2 do with anyone in here at pixie place. Surely the best place would be a repair shop etc. I would never go 2 a garage n ask 4 advice if i was feeling unwell.
After reading all the responses to my request, why would you make such a rude comment? When a doctor wants to operate on you, it's wise to get a second opinion or discuss the matter with one that has experienced the same issue.

[WildIrish]

Well, it is kinda funny to be discussing timing belts one minute and anal sex the next.

But like I said...since when are we typical? :D

[Lion]

Well, it is kinda funny to be discussing timing belts one minute and anal sex the next.

But like I said...since when are we typical? :D


You read my mind. :D

[PantyFanatic]

Pixies is a porn site? :confused:

[Booger]

I have to agree with PF I haven't ever realy looked at Pixies as a porn site. I have always thought of it as an adult sight we do have naked pics and story about sex. But if you look at the site as a whole thats sex is only a small part of it. I've always found pixes to be a place where adults can feel free to share anything from sex pics of thenselves or stories they have writen to question about things like a timing belt.

I've always found pixes as more of a site where adults cad talk about anything more then a porn site.

[Lilith]

Tell the feds that ;)

[PantyFanatic]

Tell the feds that ;)
Let ME tell them! :D
I've been wanting to talk to a lot of them for a while.



:#%@*$#%%#*@@$&#@#$*#@$!@#$!@$: <------ imploded smilie

[PantyFanatic]

I guess I'll have to change my approach to something polite they'll understand. :rolleyes:

:$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$: <---- bureaucratic speech smilie

[Lion]

Now were talking, maybe we should extend an invitation to Pat Robertson :confused:

[Fangtasia]

My car was a Nissan Skyline.....

[WildIrish]

My car was a Nissan Skyline.....



HIJACK!!!!!


We were talking about porn, weren't we? :D

[Fangtasia]

We were....oppppssss sorry bout that...

Ummmmm i had sex on the bonnet of the Nissan Skyline!!

[Lion]

All this conversation generated over a question regarding a timing belt, where else could someone get this kind of entertainment?
Any comments regarding Pat Robertson? :confused:

[WildIrish]

We were....oppppssss sorry bout that...

Ummmmm i had sex on the bonnet of the Nissan Skyline!!

Nice timing. :D LMFAO

[Lion]

We were....oppppssss sorry bout that...

Ummmmm i had sex on the bonnet of the Nissan Skyline!!

Maybe, that's why the timing belt broke :confused:

[Fangtasia]

*LOL*...could be

[Steph]

I have to agree with PF

Hell HAS frozen over! :eek:

[Lilith]

All this conversation generated over a question regarding a timing belt, where else could someone get this kind of entertainment?
Any comments regarding Pat Robertson? :confused:

yes

[Oldfart]

Hey, a genuine Pixies Ice Rink.

I'll grab a lift with Lion if he ever makes up his mind about his timing belt.

[Lion]

Hey, a genuine Pixies Ice Rink.

I'll grab a lift with Lion if he ever makes up his mind about his timing belt.


I made up my mind, where should I pick you up?

[Steph]

imploded smilie

*sniff* Why haven't you imploded?

[lizzardbits]

Further proof that we're not your typical porn site.
We're friends that have seen each other naked.


I like that^^^


sex and cars...what's more natural than that??? I feel very horny after i have worked on my van, or my '64 Ford.....something about having dirt and grease and oil all over me gets my juices going and my panties wet!

[Oldfart]

Lion,

I'll just wait on the corner with my ice-skates.

Not a common sight in tropical Australia, so you should find me with no trouble.

[PantyFanatic]

.....something about having dirt and grease and oil all over me gets my juices going and my panties wet!
I think I need my oil dreained. :rolleyes: ......... matter of fact, I'm SURE I do. :D

[BIBI]

What has fitting a new timing belt 4 a car got 2 do with anyone in here at pixie place. Surely the best place would be a repair shop etc. I would never go 2 a garage n ask 4 advice if i was feeling unwell.

LMAO...why let it get your knickers in a knot?

I have felt unwell leaving a garage.....:(

[Lion]

OK mate, I'm leaving St. Louis in 5 minutes. I'll be the black Acura that's being towed, just wait for me. :rolleyes:

[Oldfart]

Lion

If you're not here by Friday noon, I'll start walking.

[sodaklostsoul]

Er..don't you mean skating Oldfart.

[Oldfart]

No, we have an expression "Get your skates on" which means to hurry up, but I refuse to weld wheels

to my ice-skates.

Current thought has it that there may be free ice here again shortly, maybe Xmas 3006.

[sodaklostsoul]

Lol

[Lion]

Who wants to join me with my adventure down under? Lets see how far we can go before the timing belt snaps?

[Oldfart]

How many do I have to prepare supper for?

[simpdogg]

Join a forum....

www.ozhonda.com

i know its an Australian site, however we have heaps of guys from the states on the boards.

[Lilith]

great suggestion!^^^

[stang8az28]

i am a master mechanic. if the belt breaks then it WILL do major engine damage. that beng said. i usually replace the ones on my cars between 65000 and 75000 miles.

[osuche]

There are people who actually want to talk about timing belts around here? :confused:


:D

[Lion]

There are people who actually want to talk about timing belts around here? :confused:


:D
This is what makes Pixies so much fun.

[LixyChick]

I can see my timing is perfect to butt in here!

***^^^please notice that I'm keeping with the thread theme and adding a bit o sex to boot!***

Um...oh shit...now I lost my concentration and have to go out and cum back in again!

Oh...wait! I remember what I was gonna say!

Please pick me up on the way down under Lion! Hubby was a mechanic and he'll get ya a deal on that timing belt! :D <---wicked cheshire grin smilie

Geezzzz I love the barter system!

[Lion]

I think I'll rent a bus and tow the car so there's more room for us to play on the way. Come on Pixie's join the bus to down under land.

[Lion]

I guess this bus ran out of gas and I here I sit all by myself, lost. :o

[lizzardbits]

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