the last president THIS bad was...

[wanderingsoul]

I'm thinking president ford but of course I wasn't much more than a stain on my father's sheets at that point.

But either way, at this point I don't know of anyone that actually believes he's good at what he does and that he's made the right decisions about things.

I'm not trying to start a political post, been there done that, I'm just trying to find out who was as big of fuckup as bush is.

[Lilith]

What part wasn't supposed to be political??

[BIBI]

I can't comment....I'm not an American

[maddy]

I'm certain there are some people that think Bush is still doing a good job... And I'm pretty sure there will not be consensus regarding the worst president in American history. And I'm with Lilith on this, which part of talking about the Government isn't political?

[Lilith]

I can't comment....I'm not an American

Yeah but you don't need to be an American to make an observation on who was a fuck up and who was not :D

[Lilith]

I liked Ford. He had the best stuff for bloopers :D

[osuche]

Ah....if only Ford had JibJab :D

[scotzoidman]

Hmmm...I'll hafta spend some time thinking about whether I dare step into this dogpile or not...

[BIBI]

Yeah but you don't need to be an American to make an observation on who was a fuck up and who was not :D

If you insist :D

Nixon and his Watergate Scandal is memorable....it overshadows any good he did. IMO

[Oldfart]

Anything we say now is lacking the perspective of time.

Ask me again in ten years.

[divot109]

George, Sr. Must run in the family.

[PantyFanatic]

Anything we say now is lacking the perspective of time.

Ask me again in ten years.
What the history writers have to say then will be an interesting lesson about history.

[PantyFanatic]

I'm certain there are some people that think Bush is still doing a good job... And I'm pretty sure there will not be consensus regarding the worst president in American history. And I'm with Lilith on this, which part of talking about the Government isn't political?
Maddy is correct. The man was elected again a year ago.

[fzzy]

If no one you know has positive things to say about him, that may have as much to do with who you know as it does with what kind of a job the President is doing .... not voicing an opinion either way about the job he's doing, but pointing out something about each individual's perspective.

[Lilith]

BIBI, I think it's possible that the same will be the case for Clinton.

[BIBI]

BIBI, I think it's possible that the same will be the case for Clinton.

LMAO....true, but he is still around atoning for his sins.;)

Seriously though we had a Prime Minister who talked to his cat and had regular meetings with mediums so he could talk to his departed Mother. He depended on spirit guides in helping him make decisions about the country.

Of course the proof came out after his death.

[Lilith]

LMAO....true, but he is still around atoning for his sins.;)

Seriously though we had a Prime Minister who talked to his cat and had regular meetings with mediums so he could talk to his departed Mother. He depended on spirit guides in helping him make decisions about the country.

Of course the proof came out after his death.
Reminescent of Caligula, wasn't it he who made a horse a member of the government???

[jseal]

Lilith,

While Caligula was a tad bizarre, I believe his horse never did make it into government. The Roman emperors were a very entertain group!

[BIBI]

Reminescent of Caligula, wasn't it he who made a horse a member of the government???

Yes, it was him....so the story goes :)

[dicksbro]

Jimmy Carter always struck me as a well intentioned buffoon.

... and, then there was Hilliary ... er ... Bill Clinton ... nevermind. :D

[jseal]

BIBI,

Which one?

[BIBI]

BIBI,

Which one?

Which one? Horse or Prime Minister?

William Lyon Mackenzie King was the prime minister.

[jseal]

wanderingsoul,

While there is nothing to prevent an assessment of a president prior to the end of that Administration, you may find it easier to come to a useful evaluation if you do so. For example, there was much - very much - brouhaha about President Clinton’s behavior while on company time. Since his departure, much of the vehemence of his antagonists has been reassessed as unnecessary.

As PantyFanatic pointed out, President Bush was reelected to a second term in office by the approval of the majority of the voters – the opinions which count.

Something you may wish to consider is what makes up a good president? Success in domestic affairs, success in foreign affairs, popularity at home, or abroad? Honesty? Integrity? Skills as an orator? Should all presidents be judged by the same standards, or do different standards apply to the different times a president served?

[Lilith]

jseal,
You touch on a very pertinent point. I do think a good president is a person who is able to use his skills and influence to address the current needs of his country. The skills necessary in the 1800s and the skills needed now can not be interchanged. I do think that there may be a list of qualities people would like to see in their leaders but I believe that applies to all leaders not just political or presidential ones.

[lakritze]

There has never been a president as bad as this one. Not Hoover,not Nixon,not Reagan or not even this Bozo's old man. Ford wasn't really a bad president. He got the job with the promise to pardon Nixon.After that,he just played golf for the rest of his term. It could have been worse,Nixon's V.P. was Spiro Agnew.

[alspals69]

But why? it'snot like he had sex or anything?!!! And anyway, even if you think he did... if Monica was alleged to have given him a blow job how come she didn't blow once!?

[alspals69]

oops.. my last comment was aout clinton

[Fangtasia]

*sits on her hands and decides to shut up* LOL

[Lilith]

*sits on her hands and decides to shut up* LOL

/me quickly slips my freezing hands under Alasse as she goes to sit on her own:D

[Fangtasia]

/me think Lilith will now have warm damaged hands *LOL*

[PantyFanatic]

Reminescent of Caligula, wasn't it he who made a horse a member of the government???
We made 535 parts of the hores the government!

[lizzardbits]

and then there was half of the country at one time that thought Lincoln was a bad president.... time and perspective play a big part in determining who was great and who was not. At everytime in American history, the President had people that disliked him, or how he ran the country.

I, personally, am not a great fan of Dubya, but as was pointed out before, he was elected by the voting public. I love being an American, and the freedoms that i enjoy every day. So I take the good with the bad, and know that in a few years there will be a new President in office......and if i don't like him or her....wait another 4 years and so on and so forth.

[jseal]

We made 535 parts of the hores the government!
PantyFanatic,

What does this have to do with the president?

[wanderingsoul]

ok, my email thing didn't let me know anyone had replied to this post till now.

First let me say that I was just asking for the general opinion of the previous presidents.

The way I see it clinton was just horny, I mean hell he is married to hillary. Nixon - he was just a crook, plain and simple. I know that Ford fell down a lot but that's about it. I really wasn't looking to get into a political debate, I was just wanting to learn from my elder's ::ducks the hoard of oncoming slaps:: so to speak. I was just wanting to know how the people who lived through any particular presidency felt about him at the time. That's all

[Scarecrow]

Silence is Golden... Duct tape is Silver

This line fits this thread very well, so I will just follow it.

[lizzardbits]

LOL! you like my sig, then, scarecrow? I laffed aloud in the store when i saw the sticker, so i had to buy it.

ok, thread hijacking over, on to topic........