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Lilith
08-31-2005, 05:05 AM
Guys, have you found this article (http://www.askmen.com/dating/heidi_100/136_dating_girl.html) to be the case, in your life? Ladies, are these things that really bother you?

Here are the 6 things women want to change about men.

1. How you dress
First, consider the following: Do you think black matches with navy? Do you think it's acceptable to wear the same shirt three days in a row? If you genuinely believe that you have a good sense of style (and this has been confirmed by other people), then by all means stand your ground on your wardrobe.

How to stand your ground: Avoid going shopping with her to keep her input on your purchases to a minimum. If she buys you gifts of clothing, you have no choice but to say thank you, smile and nod. Having said that, you can give your input in a more subtle way; for example, you can compliment her choice of a tie while subtly suggesting that you might prefer another color.

2. What you eat
If she is trying to steer you away from red meat and French fries, she really does have your best interests at heart. And if she is the one in charge of the cooking, you might have to live with some of her dietary guidelines.

How to stand your ground: If you want to have your way when it comes to your diet, you have to become more involved with the grocery shopping and cooking. You can suggest that you have a craving for a certain thing or that you loved a certain dish she made for you in order to nudge her in your direction.

Ultimately, though, how you eat is your decision, so when you are on your own (doing the cooking or eating out), you are free to make your own dietary decisions. Just don't go home and confess to them.

3. Your friends
Does she encourage you to hang out with your married friends and steer you away from your bachelor friends? It's not uncommon for a woman to feel uncomfortable when you go out with your bachelor buddies for fear that they might influence you or con you into being their wingman.

How to stand your ground: If you notice she is trying to steer you away from some of your good buddies, discuss the issue right way. In a calm manner, make her understand that you intend to remain close to your friends, even though she might not like them.

Try to point out your best buddy's better qualities so she'll understand why you keep him around. For example, don't mention his ability to drink like a fish; rather, emphasize his generosity and kind heart. You can even invite your buddy and your girlfriend on an activity that they will both enjoy to get them to bond.

4. Your hobbies
She might want the two of you to share similar hobbies, but this doesn't mean that you have to give up everything you formerly loved.

How to stand your ground: Make sure that you spend enough time with her and try to find an activity that you both enjoy. This way, when you want to go watch the game without her, she won't feel neglected.

5. Your bad habits
If you are seriously addicted to smoking, drinking or drugs, then you may want to consider yielding to her nagging for your own good. However, if she objects to a night out with the guys, it's time to stand your ground.

How to stand your ground: If she nags you constantly about your bad habits, then feel free to do the same to her. Keep it light and do it in a joking manner, but do mention her overzealousness when it comes to eating cake or her addiction to sun-tanning.

Meanwhile, try to continue on with your bad habits as usual without bringing them to her attention. If she continues to nag you, then confront her head on about it. Ultimately, no amount of nagging will help you change a bad habit -- it has to come from you.

6. Your love of porn and/or strip clubs
She may try to steer you away from any naked woman other than herself; you'll have to work her through her anxiety about it.

How to stand your ground: Discuss the issue early on and make her understand that the occasional bachelor party at a strip club does not pose a threat to her or your relationship.

You might even want to get her involved by asking her along to a classy strip club (a rundown establishment will not help your cause). This way, she'll see that there is no risk that you'll actually cheat on her with one of the women.

BigBear57
08-31-2005, 05:27 AM
LOL I can almost put a name on every item listing who wanted to change what the most. Exception being #6.. can't say it's ever been a problem. How you dress brought on a snicker too, I still see friends wearing clothes his new wife obviously bought him because before marriage you couldn't have held a gun on them and made them put on Nautica shorts. Not dissing the clothes mind you just making the observation knowing the guy.

wyndhy
08-31-2005, 07:49 AM
i'm not bothered by a single one on the list

PantyFanatic
08-31-2005, 07:59 AM
That sounds like "You're perfect! :) I love you! :D Now change." :mad:

gekkogecko
08-31-2005, 09:49 AM
Well, gee, most of the advice boils down to "talk about stuff, and/or become more involved in each other's lives".

Duh!

Winston77
08-31-2005, 10:05 AM
Navy does go with black doesn't it? :D :grin: :jester:

Steph
08-31-2005, 10:09 AM
If dude is wearing a shirt three days in a row, I might say something . . . then again, when you're wearing a shirt three days in a row around here, it usually means you're on a drug binge so maybe I'm touchy.

I love porn, I love men who cook . . . actually, I don't think I'd be able to deal with a man suggesting what to eat without helping with it. Luckily, a lot of the guys I've dated have had feminist mothers and/or are feminists themselves.

scotzoidman
08-31-2005, 12:35 PM
After 30 years, I can testify that no matter how well you stand your ground, you will eventually succumb to "You're not going out looking like that, are you?"...as Jeff Foxworthy says, just because she isn't using a cattle prod doesn't mean she isn't re-training you...

osuche
09-01-2005, 12:57 AM
Well, gee, most of the advice boils down to "talk about stuff, and/or become more involved in each other's lives".

Duh!


Amen! Mr. Osuche DOES respond to reason. And so do I...most of the time. :p

fzzy
09-01-2005, 01:10 AM
LOL ... interesting points, so long as the clothes he's wearing aren't an AWFUL mix (plaid flannel shirt and striped jogging shorts - LOL) and they don't reek .. I'm not likely to take offense ... as long as the clothes are also reasonably appropriate for the occassion.

I don't think I'd dare tell someone else what they should be eating ... I'm too bad about that topic myself to feel like I'd have a right to control someone else's dietary habits!

By nature I've always been very independent, so whatever friends he has ... I'm fine with ... that doesn't mean that I'd like them as my friends all of the time though!

I'd like to have some things I can do with my man that we both enjoy ... but again, I'm fine with him having hobbies he's into that I have no interest in ... and vice versa.

Bad habits ... well there are some that I don't want my man involved with ... don't like smoking or drinking ... at least not around me ... The guy I currently date didn't admit that he was a smoker to me until he had stopped for 60+ days ... whenever we'd see each other before that .... he made major efforts to change into clean clothes, not smoke for a time before seeing me and cleaning his mouth/breath THOROUGHLY ... I still tasted it in his kisses now and then ... kind of like an aftertaste, but nothing major, so I didn't say anything to him about it ... when he confessed, I thought it was sweet that he went to such effort because he just knew that I'm not the type to like a smoker ... (we had never discussed it) :)

Strip clubs ... hmmmmm .... if he wants to go ... I don't want to hear about it ... and don't think I'd want to see him immediately after any trip he made to one. I guess I'm for a "don't ask - don't tell" policy on that one. I sure as heck am not interested in going to one with him ... can't imagine just how embarrassed and mortified I'd be in that situation!!! Not that I wouldn't like to try stripping for my man in the privacy of my place .... (someday when I feel a bit more positive about showing off my body that is) :)

dicksbro
09-01-2005, 02:40 AM
I thought gekko said it about right ... talk and discuss any issue that comes up. Seems like good advice.

sodaklostsoul
09-01-2005, 10:56 AM
i'm not bothered by a single one on the list
Me either!! Booger dose'nt have any of those problems.

fredchabotnick
09-01-2005, 09:35 PM
I'm not sure I am capable of dressing myself. I'll take any help I can get there.

Steph
09-01-2005, 09:50 PM
I'm not sure I am capable of dressing myself. I'll take any help I can get there.

ROFLMAO :rofl:

I love it when a man asks me for fashion help. Do they love it when I ask for handyman help?

wyndhy
09-01-2005, 09:55 PM
ROFLMAO :rofl:

I love it when a man asks me for fashion help. Do they love it when I ask for handyman help?
i don't care....i love asking him to do handy work just so i can watch his arms swing that hammer :hot:
:D

Lilith
09-02-2005, 04:31 AM
Love it when they are nailing something, preferably me :D