View Full Version : We Mind Very Much If You Smoke
Lilith
07-25-2005, 05:52 PM
Remember that old diddy....
I don't smoke and while I'm certainly not fond of encountering it in a closed in public place, I don't give a rat's ass what you do in your privately owned space. I am shocked with that dude in NJ trying to pass the no smoking while driving thing. It's only responsible for like 1% of the accidents in that state yet this is the battle to fight??????
Your thoughts?
jseal
07-25-2005, 06:28 PM
Lilith,
Intolerance knows no limits.
I read an article on that and was thinking it was a bit overboard. If they are concerned with distractive driving then they might as well ban eating, applying makeup, listening to music, talking on the phone, and talking to passengers in your car as well.
They'll probably try to ban masturbating while driving next... :rolleyes2
Lilith
07-25-2005, 06:45 PM
They'll probably try to ban masturbating while driving next... :rolleyes2
Well it may already be banned if you are on a live streaming webcam in your car :p
Cheyanne
07-25-2005, 06:51 PM
Grrrrrrrrrr.... I smoke.
I am a polite smoker - I don't smoke in dining areas, I don't smoke in a public place around lots of people, and I also ask those who visit my home if they mind that I smoke while they are there. Usually they look shocked that I ask and don't know what to say. I explain to them - I will not impose my poor choice/addiction onto someone who doesn't partake - even in my own home, so if it bothers you I will either not smoke - or go outside.
This idiot in NJ is wasting his time. Why doesn't he go after those who drink and drive? Have a zero tolerance for those who imbibe? 0.00% alcohol level?
I also wonder, when I hear about thse kinda things if the person isn't trying to distract the public he represents from something much more scandalous... :eek:
Well it may already be banned if you are on a live streaming webcam in your car :p
You talk like you know something I don't.
/me goes to check his car for hidden cameras
FallenAngel5
07-25-2005, 07:03 PM
I heard this this morning, and I think it's crap... banning smoking in public places is one thing, but banning smoking while driving makes as much sense as banning smoking in your home. There are some places the government should not reach. And if people want to kill themselves slowly while driving, more power to em. :grin:
Sugarsprinkles
07-25-2005, 07:06 PM
I think people on cell phones, and those trying to eat/drink and drive are much more of a hazzard than smokers. I know cell phone usage while driving is being legislated, but I don't know how possible it would be, or even practicle or reasonable to try to legislate eatling/drinking while driving.
maddy
07-25-2005, 07:10 PM
what about changing radio stations? The one accident I've been involved in (in recent history) was on an interstate during rush hour, because some young gent decided to change the radio station rather than watch traffic.
I wish I had such free time on my hands....
what about changing radio stations? The one accident I've been involved in (in recent history) was on an interstate during rush hour, because some young gent decided to change the radio station rather than watch traffic.
I was going to say. It's more dangerous having me try to get the ghetto crap my kid likes off the radio then me lighting up.
Steph
07-26-2005, 11:31 AM
Well said, Chey!
I don't understand this rule. I think there's been talk of legislating against (is that the right phrase? legislating against?) smoking when you're in the car with kids but WTF? You can't smoke in your car when you're driving alone? What is the reasoning?
I'm dating a non-smoker and I use one of my fave lines on him, "I don't mind if you eat while I'm smoking."
Like Chey, I'm a polite smoker but this legislation is 'tarded.
WildIrish
07-26-2005, 11:47 AM
We're going awful far in restricting a legal habit, aren't we?
lonelyarmywife
07-26-2005, 12:03 PM
I have sort of a unique perspective on this. My junior year of high school, a very popular girl in our community was killed in a car accident. The driver (her mother) was lighting a cigarette and dropped the lighter. She figedted around trying to pick it up, lost control and left the road. Mom walked away, but the coroner couldn't even patch Beth up enough for the funeral.
So I can see how smoking in your car is defineatly a hazard. I am also for banning smoking in public places.
That being said, I don't think that the government should have the right to legislate what you do in private. What you do in your home and when no ons is watching is your own business. It's my opinion, though, that your car should be considered "out in public." Mind you, I didn't say public property, just "in public."
I seem to be in the minority on this one, but I disagree with most of what has been said here.
LAW
P.S. Former smoker
sama1005
07-26-2005, 12:16 PM
I had a friend in High School that flicked some ash at his ash tray and missed. The ash was still hot enough when it landed on his note book, that it ignited. When he realized what was happening he paniced and tried to put it out without stopping the car. He wrapped his car around a light pole. He was fortunate to survive with only some minor burns on his hands and a bruised sternum when his chest hit the steering wheel.
After saying that, I would rather see legislation against cell phones and drinking/eating than smoling. Of course it might be better to ban idiots from driving. Was behind a lady at a stop light who was on her cell phone, smoking and drinking coffee. She had the phone cradled on her shoulder. For some reason, she missed that the light turned green. When I honked at her, she made a rude gesture like it was my fault.
PantyFanatic
07-26-2005, 12:51 PM
It's only responsible for like 1% of the accidents in that state yet this is the battle to fight??????
Your thoughts?
That means that 99% of the accidents are caused by non smokers. :yikes: I want legislation introduced to make smoking a requirement to :drive:! :D
(You want to see road rage? :D
Stick me in rush hour traffic on a 100°F day like today and tell me I can’t smoke in my own fucking car. :nuts: )
PantyFanatic
07-26-2005, 12:59 PM
I had a friend in High School that flicked some ash at his ash tray and missed. The ash was still hot enough when it landed on his note book, that it ignited.....
What the hell was he smoking? Welding rod? :confused:
Tell him to stop using his notebook as a funnel at the gas station. :rolleyes2
sama1005
07-26-2005, 01:30 PM
What the hell was he smoking? Welding rod? :confused:
Tell him to stop using his notebook as a funnel at the gas station. :rolleyes2
I always wondered how he did it. Only thing I can think of is if it hit and smoldered for a while before it ignited. His car was always a pig sty, you had to move the food wrappers out of the way to get in, so it could have started in one of those. :)
Fangtasia
07-26-2005, 01:42 PM
Smoking in the car if you have passengers i can understand...but when the smoker is alone well thats another story
Drinking in a car ~ well dunno bout other states...but in Qld is has already been made illegal
PantyFanatic
07-26-2005, 02:21 PM
..... His car was always a pig sty, you had to move the food wrappers out of the way to get in, so it could have started in one of those. :)
So it was more of a cleanup program. ;)
bare4you
07-26-2005, 09:10 PM
This anti-smoking thing is just like prohibition all over again. The folks who want to run everyone's life for a social experiment won't be happy until George Orwell's vision becomes reality!
Steph
07-27-2005, 03:15 AM
I have sort of a unique perspective on this. My junior year of high school, a very popular girl in our community was killed in a car accident. The driver (her mother) was lighting a cigarette and dropped the lighter. She figedted around trying to pick it up, lost control and left the road. Mom walked away, but the coroner couldn't even patch Beth up enough for the funeral.
I am very sorry for your loss.
I also lost a friend because a driver dropped a CD case on the floor of the driver's seat.
I have driven across Canada a zillion times and have dropped cigs and kept control of the car. If someone doesn't control the car because of a cig, that's the fault of the driver. Many people also lose their lives because bees fly into the vehicle.
lakritze
07-27-2005, 01:46 PM
What kind of world is this when smokers {espeically us Pixie smokers} are generally politer than some of the militant non smokers? Makes me want to light up a Pall Mall non filtre and blow smoke rings in their face. If God didn't want people to smoke in their cars,she wouldn't have put lighters and ash trays in them.
GingerV
07-27-2005, 01:59 PM
Oh for crying out loud. Has that man got no real problems in his life?
I don't smoke. I don't like smoke. I wish the people I love wouldn't, but I don't get up in their faces about it and they don't get up in my face when I put REAL butter on my toast. I got all up in arms before I left NY because I'd seen the beginning of an ad campaign (possibly national, I'm not sure) that was trying to guilt smokers for smoking in their own houses. The comercials were telling these people that if they had kids they were abusing them unless they went out to smoke in the garage. WTF?? OK, smoke not good for kids, but it's a bit much to try to chase smokers out of their own homes.
Maybe it's a problem...I doubt it...but at most it's a small problem. There are bigger ones out there more deserving of time and energy.
WildIrish
07-27-2005, 02:36 PM
GingerV - do you cook with real butter too? :hot:
GingerV
07-27-2005, 02:43 PM
Sweety, I will use real butter for all manner of stuff! ;)
But I bake with real butter, and cook with a butter/olive oil blend. Gets the temp just right, gives FAB color, and tastes yummy.
WildIrish
07-27-2005, 02:47 PM
Sweety, I will use real butter for all manner of stuff! ;)
But I bake with real butter, and cook with a butter/olive oil blend. Gets the temp just right, gives FAB color, and tastes yummy.
And do you cook knockwurst with real butter? :D
GingerV
07-27-2005, 02:48 PM
Oh now, THAT'S a good idea....we may have to try that for...ummmm....dinner tonight ;)
WildIrish
07-27-2005, 02:52 PM
/me tries desperatly to avoid hijacking the thread by specifying that the knockwursts in question were smoked. :D
Dubblz
07-27-2005, 02:53 PM
This smoking thing is just another bullshit lobbyist thing that got out of control.I'm a smoker.I used to go to places where it was ok to smoke.They had "smoking rooms" built in at a cost of 12 to 16k,at the owners expense.Then,they come along with legislation to outlaw that.So,for most,they lose the money they spent.Now,they don't want people to smoke in their own cars.Funny though,how they manage to tax the living shit out of each and every pack,and then fund gov't projects on the money they sued the tobacco industry over.That's just New York,I understand it's much worse in California.Maybe next, a law against listening to the radio.Because hey,might be something the Big Brother doesn't want us to hear.
Maybe they'll pull the troops out of Iraq,and deploy them on the highways,to stop us truly vicious,smokers..
GingerV
07-27-2005, 02:54 PM
That's right....no smoking knockwursts while driving....very dangerous. Let's start a campaign!
I haven't had my knockwurst smoked while driving in a looooong time. *sigh*
dicksbro
07-27-2005, 03:54 PM
No problem at all when people smoke in their own cars or homes or any public place even though I don't smoke (anymore) and don't like the smell ... but ... and I'm really serious ... had a scare a month or so ago. The feller who delivers gasoline to a filling station in town came into the station shaking. He'd been filling the underground tanks when he realized that a "LIT CIGARETTE" had rolled across the lot and caught on the edge of the tank opening. If wind had blown it over the edge ... the tank would have blown, the corner destroyed and a number of people ... including me ... killed or injured.
Please ... if you smoke ... put them out before you go into a gas station or into your ash tray before you get out of the car. Please!
Thanks.
GingerV
07-27-2005, 04:32 PM
Woah....glad you're safe DB.
Smoking or no smoking..."stupid" will get you killed every time. Unfortunately, it doesn't alway just kill the one committing "stupid"...it spreads.
Please ... if you smoke ... put them out before you go into a gas station or into your ash tray before you get out of the car. Please!
Thanks.
Ohhhhh, that gets into a pet peeve there. I think people should be able to smoke in there own car, but they need to keep the butt in their car when they're done. I see cigs, many still lit, dropped out of car windows all the time. Aside from it collecting on the side of the road with other trash, it also has a potential to start a fire. It's just a very irresponsible thing to do.
Glad you came out of that situation unscathed db!
Cheyanne
07-27-2005, 04:56 PM
No problem at all when people smoke in their own cars or homes or any public place even though I don't smoke (anymore) and don't like the smell ... but ... and I'm really serious ... had a scare a month or so ago. The feller who delivers gasoline to a filling station in town came into the station shaking. He'd been filling the underground tanks when he realized that a "LIT CIGARETTE" had rolled across the lot and caught on the edge of the tank opening. If wind had blown it over the edge ... the tank would have blown, the corner destroyed and a number of people ... including me ... killed or injured.
Please ... if you smoke ... put them out before you go into a gas station or into your ash tray before you get out of the car. Please!
Thanks.
I would have been shaking in my shoes too...
A bit of trivia from my old mechanic.... (I have never put this to a test though) He said that it isn't gasoline that starts a fire, it is the fumes that are flamable. He would often have a small bucket (pint) of gas a day or two old that he would toss his cigerettes into and never had a problem as the didn't put off any fumes... :eek:
BigBear57
07-27-2005, 05:50 PM
Ummm DB, as much as I understand your concern. That lit smoke would've gone out. It takes a flame to ignite gasoline or the fumes. I used to pump gas at a station and smoke all the while. As for the legislation thing, I'd say PF's right..... road rage city!
Dubblz
07-27-2005, 06:05 PM
I worked in a refinery(Mobil)for almost 10 years here,and made gas,as well as propane,and few other wonderful things,lol.I think that sometimes I forget all the safety training they gave us there,and then react when laws like this come about.Fighting fires,and taking consideration for things that petroleum products can do,is almost second nature.
That said..I also aided in the rescue of several people that were testing products(that was part of our job)and thought that their cig would go out when they threw it in a bucket of gas or sometimes even kerosene.I can tell ya first hand,it don't work..
We even had a black guy that tried it,and his skin grafts didn't come in the right color.OK,he got rich on the lawsuit,but damn..He was about 1/8 white!!
I don't smoke around that shit at all.Trust me on this one..
Steph
07-28-2005, 08:06 PM
Ohhhhh, that gets into a pet peeve there. I think people should be able to smoke in there own car, but they need to keep the butt in their car when they're done.
LOL Big mouth me yelled "Litter bug!!" to a guy at a red light for doing that yesterday. :D
wyndhy
07-29-2005, 03:29 PM
i hereby suggest that a new law be enacted immediately...showering is dangerous. you could slip and fall, possibly getting a contusion, concussion or abrasion--possibly even worse than that! from now on you MUST shower with a partner, keeping your hands on them at all times for support and extra stability... four hands are better than two, you know ;)
WildIrish
07-29-2005, 03:45 PM
"with one hand firmly on their handle" :hot:
But let go if you start to fall! :yikes:
wyndhy
07-29-2005, 03:48 PM
nah...i'll just make sure i fall on top :D
WildIrish
07-29-2005, 03:55 PM
nah...i'll just make sure i fall on top :D
Don't mind if I shout "TIMBER"!!!!!
wyndhy
07-29-2005, 04:08 PM
don't mind it if you happen to get tangled in my limbs.
WildIrish
07-29-2005, 04:20 PM
You're making it tough for me to leave.
wyndhy
07-29-2005, 04:30 PM
woof :D
WildIrish
07-29-2005, 04:34 PM
let's bring this full circle so we can't be accused of hijacking the thread.
Speaking of leaves...here in Connecticut, we have lots of tobacco leaves. :D
wyndhy
07-29-2005, 04:35 PM
speaking of barking....dogs don't smoke
wyndhy
07-29-2005, 04:36 PM
and i don't smoke in the shower :rofl:
WildIrish
07-29-2005, 04:38 PM
Does your penis burn after intercourse?
:confused:
I don't know...I've never tried to light it.
lonelyarmywife
07-29-2005, 10:22 PM
Maybe they'll pull the troops out of Iraq,and deploy them on the highways,to stop us truly vicious,smokers..
I would just like to state that I am in no way opposed to this idea... :jester:
bare4you
07-30-2005, 08:26 AM
I agree - and by the way, I've never tried to smoke a dog either....
rabbit
07-31-2005, 08:06 PM
Remember that old diddy....
I don't smoke and while I'm certainly not fond of encountering it in a closed in public place, I don't give a rat's ass what you do in your privately owned space. I am shocked with that dude in NJ trying to pass the no smoking while driving thing. It's only responsible for like 1% of the accidents in that state yet this is the battle to fight??????
Your thoughts?
If people want to smoke in their car, that's their business.
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