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joys
09-08-2004, 06:30 AM
I think we all are feeling depressed. I am now. We only need to admit it.

Let's hear anyone else to admit

Oldfart
09-08-2004, 07:33 AM
Not me.

My life is where I want it to be, my work's fine and Pixies is my other home.

If it's not Heaven, it'll do me.

BIBI
09-08-2004, 07:35 AM
Go see a doctor....

joys
09-08-2004, 07:52 AM
Oldfart --> I am very happy for you.

BIBI --> I always see one. Happens to be my father.

joys
09-08-2004, 07:54 AM
I just felt sharing but seems i cant. voila...

imaginewithme
09-08-2004, 07:57 AM
joys share anything you want....not everyone is as open as some, that's all.

I do believe probably everybody gets a little blue from time to time, but just know that it's up to you to make things brighter!

BIBI
09-08-2004, 08:19 AM
I just felt sharing but seems i cant. voila...

You can share all you want to. I gave you the best advice you can get and if you are seeing a doctor and are still not getting the correct form of treatment or things aren't improving....change doctors.

BIBI
09-08-2004, 08:49 AM
joys share anything you want....not everyone is as open as some, that's all.

I do believe probably everybody gets a little blue from time to time, but just know that it's up to you to make things brighter!

If that comment was for me all I can say is this. We are not professionals here and true clinical depression can only and should only be treated by those that have the true knowledge and understanding of the illness....
Sometimes lay people make matters worse by trying to be kind.

Example being your statement..."I do believe everybody gets a little blue from time to time, but just know it's up to you to make things brighter".

Someone who is suffering from a clinical depression might read that statement totally out of context due to their state of mind at the time.

They may read it as "oh come on, everyone gets down, it's your fault your feeling bad. You just have to try harder"

I know you meant well by what you wrote, but you have to understand that a person who is suffering from clinical depression at times takes things out of context and therefore it could do more damage than good.

I gave the best advice I could, that being, see a doctor and even that was mistaken as being critical.

Get my drift? If not pm me!

Catch22
09-08-2004, 08:54 AM
I care for a aged person that when not depressed is paranoid.... It makes for an interesting day.
I go on the net and chat to someone, that when she doesn't want to kill herself, wants to kill other people.... How jolly.
I turn on the TV and see SOBs throwing dead children out windows..... Such entertainment.
I turn on the radio and hear our sod PM tell me how everything will be better if I vote the prick back in.... What a comfort.

Steph
09-08-2004, 09:40 AM
And I'm not sure why there's an assumption that we're all feeling depressed.

I'm sorry to hear there are some on the board who might be suffering but have to second BIBI's advice on consulting a doctor.

WildIrish
09-08-2004, 10:01 AM
What's making you feel blue Joys? Anything in particular or is just one of those blah days?

joys
09-08-2004, 10:11 AM
BIBI is right. Listen and carefully read what she says.

My Dad is a very well known prof. of pschiatry, both here and USA. I am unluky to have such a family, cause every person i can go to will be a student of my father.

New question: How can you treat someone when that someone has a shrink father??

joys
09-08-2004, 10:33 AM
having a father, prof of many pschiatricrs is no good. Besides, I become to know many psyotich symptoms. Hell.. I need to see a shrink who does not know my father. And this is not possible.

Steph
09-08-2004, 10:39 AM
As you might know, a consultation with a psychiatrist is completely confidential.

As you might also know, there's no way your father taught or knows every psychiatrist in the country. If you need to make an appointment, don't worry about your father. If you feel you need help, he should be glad you're seeking it.

joys
09-08-2004, 10:42 AM
Example being your statement..."I do believe everybody gets a little blue from time to time, but just know it's up to you to make things brighter".

Someone who is suffering from a clinical depression might read that statement totally out of context due to their state of mind at the time.

They may read it as "oh come on, everyone gets down, it's your fault your feeling bad. You just have to try harder"
!
Or they mat read as "oh yes it is all my fault, it is all because of me"

joys
09-08-2004, 10:52 AM
i know it all. I just need to talk to someone who does not know my father. All of them do. Any help there?

imaginewithme
09-08-2004, 05:54 PM
Wasn't implying anything at all, just meant to send a cheerful hello.... sorry.

So, here's what I can do :hug:

Bopper
09-08-2004, 07:54 PM
The odd thing is, when I get to work I am usually not depressed. There are reasons for that. ;) Its when I get home the depression begins. :(

Anything can touch me off...something I read, a post, someone joking with me on the phone. In my mind I'm very quick to come to conclusions...this does not help anything. Even today, I got home, was doing ok, read something and it hit me in the face, and now all I want to do is find a place to hide or cry. :( Of course when I find my conclusions are false, I get to blame myself....and that doesn't make things any better. :/

It all leads to bad bad thoughts. I've been told maybe I shoudl see a shrink. I've thought this too myself even. I've yet to do so, i think becuase I'm scared. I guess im less scared of what i might do to myself, than what they might confirm.

Heres a question. How do you get over wanting something so bad, when you knwo it can't happen or you can't get it? When its the thing that changes you forever inside in a good way...yet will always be unattainable? :( When that thing will always in your own mind give you a glimmer of hope that you could still reach it, even if told striaght out that you never will, but yet you can't accept it?

BlueSwede
09-09-2004, 03:23 AM
It really is best for family members to not treat other family members. I feel for you being in the position you are in. I would hope that at least one other psychiatrist in your area would recognize that it's best to not treat family members and thus see it as logical for you to seek help outside your family and also to keep it confidential, as he or she should do, if he or she is any kind of professional.

By the way, I suffer from chronic depression, which is one reason I chose the word "blue" in my name.

joys
09-09-2004, 06:18 PM
Bopper > same thing. you are not alone. I also needed to cry

BS > I agree family members should not treat each other

I still am blue

BlueSwede
09-09-2004, 07:39 PM
And you probably will remain blue without some type of antidepressant medication. Not that I am a huge pill pusher (I am an RN, though, so I do believe people should take medications when they need them), but true depression is usually the result of a chemical imbalance that needs to be corrected.

joys
09-10-2004, 02:34 AM
I agree.. I also belive that medication can help you to cope with it but they are not the cure. Not in such cases at least like other medications. Like asprin can make your headache go but it cannot solve the reason of your headache

joys
09-10-2004, 03:18 AM
The odd thing is, when I get to work I am usually not depressed. There are reasons for that. ;) Its when I get home the depression begins. :(

Anything can touch me off...something I read, a post, someone joking with me on the phone. In my mind I'm very quick to come to conclusions...this does not help anything. Even today, I got home, was doing ok, read something and it hit me in the face, and now all I want to do is find a place to hide or cry. :( Of course when I find my conclusions are false, I get to blame myself....and that doesn't make things any better. :/

It all leads to bad bad thoughts. I've been told maybe I shoudl see a shrink. I've thought this too myself even. I've yet to do so, i think becuase I'm scared. I guess im less scared of what i might do to myself, than what they might confirm.

Heres a question. How do you get over wanting something so bad, when you knwo it can't happen or you can't get it? When its the thing that changes you forever inside in a good way...yet will always be unattainable? :( When that thing will always in your own mind give you a glimmer of hope that you could still reach it, even if told striaght out that you never will, but yet you can't accept it?

Bopper, you are also in trouble man!!! Let's go see a shrink together and share the experiences.

And for your question... Please tell me when you find the answer

joys
09-10-2004, 03:20 AM
Wasn't implying anything at all, just meant to send a cheerful hello.... sorry.

So, here's what I can do :hug:

IWM, nothing to say sorry for. Thank you for your post and appreciate it. Never thought u were implying anything

kathy1
09-10-2004, 06:39 AM
Oh Joys, wish I could just sit there with you and let you not be so alone right now....that's what I hear most in your voice......and being alone even in a crowded room or even in a home filled with people makes those demons 'tween yer ears twice as loud......keep seeking help....if it takes going thru a 1000 dr's to find the right one, do it!!!!....things will get better....
and no, i'm not a sappy, ever-cheerful optomist.....hell, perky sees me coming and runs the other way...... all i'm saying is try to hang in....give disappointment a good swift kick in the ass, if you need to.....don't stop tying to find the help you so obviously know you need......we do care, we just can't fix it.....even when we either wear or have worn the same shoes....
and as for the medication not being a fix-all....that's true enough but if aspirin makes my headaches go away until the underlying cause is found and fixed, then me and bayer are ass-hole buddies till that cause is found and fixed......

I wish you peace and many moments of clarity in the fog....it ain't an easy place to live.

joys
09-13-2004, 07:37 AM
Thanks a lot kathy... Really appreciate