To the point..

[Mercury_Maniac]

of just plain giving up


i mean you talk to girls you talk about stuff and then thats it, they go on there way with other guys, even if they do talk to you about personal stuff they always forget about me in the long run,

what the fuck is the point? really?


i give up its horse shit

[Lilith]

MM~ the path of life is gonna be filled with many bumps and obstacles. Women can be fickle. While it's hard for you to know what they want, sometimes, even they don't know. Makes your job of finding one even more difficult. I'm sorry you feel hurt, but don't ever say you give up. It's gonna be the one you chase, and just when you think you can't catch her, she trips, on purpose.

[imaginewithme]

Exactly what Lilith said!!! Us girls like to be chased too! That's all part of the flirting and teasing...."come on chase me, show me how bad you want me".

Not worth "giving up" over that's for sure. Have some patience.

Your'e a sexy guy!

[SuzyQ]

I watched a bio of George Hamilton last night, and he said that he just treated women with charm, grace, and good manners till they asked them for more! He even got Liz Taylor that way...Well a lot of guys got Liz

[Sassy Rose]

Not only are you sexy but you seem like an all around great guy...the girls would be lucky to be with you *HUGZ* Please don't give up, when you least expect it, it'll happen......and until then, hehe, I'm sure there are lots of us pixies girls that would always welcome a visit from you ;) Hang in there hon!

[dreamgurl]

Excuse me if i sound mean when i say this but, speaking as a woman near your age.... no wonder you are having no luck with that attitude. Sometimes we like to be romanced, and not for the point of you trying to get into our pants. You are still young there is plenty of time left. Why do you think everything has to happen now? I mean a turkey will never cook if you keep openind the oven door. What i'm trying to say is maybe you should look into being friends first that is what the most incredible relationships are built on. If you are ment to be romantically it will happen, sometimes you do have to wait for the good. :cheers:

[Mercury_Maniac]

thanks for the words of wisdom all of you,

I just kinda had a really bad night and i just get very frustrated with women,

i just feel like i'm under pressure all the time cause my life is just....not normal, i have no sex life, i've never had a real/serious relationship,

I look around and its like i get treated differently then other guys, and i get treated like the 5th wheel all the time like i'm not suppose to be around, i'm a really nice guy i think and i do things that people ask me to do and in the long run i always get fucked over,

and then when i reallly think about, if the opportunity is there how will i be able to take it with all the fear that I have with this, i'm just plain clueless as to what women want me to do

[Lilith]

Ask them...not in a needy way but just ask what they are looking for. But keep in mind, it may not be typical for a woman in the age range you are exploring, to know for herself exactly what she is looking for yet.

[dreamgurl]

I totally agree with Lilith on the women my age not knowing what they want. It takes me weeks even months to pick out a dress we might wear one night (prom). Personaly i don't think that i can make the decision about what i want because i don't know what all my options are in men or life for that matter yet.

[Lilith]

Might I suggest you take all the time you need to search out all the options in life.....At my age I feel like I had better make a decision pretty quick before the opportunity passes me by :p

[Sassy Rose]

Hey hon, I swear we all wonder about the opposite sex at times, so what you are going through is nothing new. And when I was your age, I was pretty much in the same boat...you mentioned no sex life....hell, I was a virgin until I was 20 and then after the first time, did not have sex again until I was with my husband. Yes, I too always felt like the odd man out. I guess what I'm trying to say is if you ever want to talk to someone who's been there, give me a shout. *HUGZ*

[scotzoidman]

thanks for the words of wisdom all of you,

I just kinda had a really bad night and i just get very frustrated with women,

... i'm just plain clueless as to what women want me to do
Wish I could tell ya it's gets easier down the road, but...sometimes it seems that women & men are 2 different species trying to intermingle (& I'm not the first to say that)...all I can tell ya is that maybe it does seem that girls are drawn to the bad boys, but I wouldn't stop being a nice guy just to improve my chances...just be yourself & the right one will come along (prob when you're not even looking for her)...

[WildIrish]

On Wednesday, Mrs. WI and I will celebrate our 14th wedding anniversary. We met while working together, yes...she was my boss, and got married roughly three years later. In that time, we've bought and sold houses, moved countless numbers of times, brought new lives into this world...and said goodbye to wonderful people leaving it. In those 14 years, we've talked openly and honestly about our life together, our lives before we met and our future.


I still have no idea what the deal is!

Actually, I wasn't looking for love. It found me. I made her laugh on the first day we met. After that, she was putty in my hands. I couldn't wait for her to order me to have sex with her. :D

[Aqua]

and then when i reallly think about, if the opportunity is there how will i be able to take it with all the fear that I have with this, i'm just plain clueless as to what women want me to do
My advice is to not worry so much about what a woman wants you to do, but to be yourself and do what YOU want to do. (Within the boundaries of the law of course!) When I met my wife I never thought we'd end up together so I never held back the real me. I made no attempts to 'show' her the sides of me that would appeal to her the most. I was just me. Funny thing is, she felt the same way and behaved the same. It has been the best relationship I have had. Be yourself and if they don't like it, then you know that a LTR would never have worked out.

Good luck and try to keep your chin up... if a girl says how are you doing and you reply with, "My life is a dark cesspool of liquified rejection", chances are she's gonna find someone else to chat with, and fast. Think Happy Thoughts or Bart might turn you into a dog... :p

[GingerV]

Oh Babe...you're gonna hate me. All I can tell you is that "doing what they thought I wanted" was never what impressed me about guys when I was your age. I didn't want the guy who wanted to impress me. I wanted the guys who WERE impressive. They were funny, or had a good voice, or interesting thoughts, or sometimes were just naturally easy to be around. It wasn't something they just did for me. I was foolish enough to pull away from any guy that pursued me too obviously...after all, if they wanted me THAT much, there had to be something wrong with them.

Believe me, there's many a day since then that I've kicked myself for not taking a closer look at the who were making the effort. But in some ways, my standards haven't changed all that much. I'm still really interested in who the guy is when he's not trying to impress me. But now I'm impressed by different things. Now knowing he's a good guy who cares about me, does the right thing when no-one's looking, has his priorities straight and a killer sence of humor...that impresses me. But it's still all about the things that happen between the candy and flower moments.

The best advice I can give you is just a variant on what everyone else has said....be yourself, find your interests, make yourself into a whole and happy person...and the girls will figure out you're a prize. I don't buy this "nice guys finish last" stuff....I've been involved with way too many nice guys myself ;).

Anyway, glad it sounds like your black mood's starting to clear.

[Nice Guy]

MM I know where you are coming from, just give it some time. Being the nice guy does work out. I was a little older then you are now before I had sex for the first time and guess what, it sucked bad. The girl was a month long summer fling. The other relationships I've had since then have lasted at best 6 months and none of them were worth having.

It sucks I know, but it can be worse. Try sitting at the wedding of a girl you were going to ask to marry. That's a real kick in the nuts, but I got over, for the most part. Don't feel like you need to rush into anything, don't sit idle but don't floor it either.

[Concubine]

oh gee what kinda advice can I give here, hmmm wel first of all, don't give up , I know it can certainly look like a giant pain in the ass, I know when I started looking to form a relationship after breaking up with my ex way back when it seemed like a daunting task

I mean just the pure numbers of finding someone with similar interests, similar sexual compatability and someone your attracted to was just mind boggling, but it will happen eventualy, best not to worry about it so much, thats what I did and I eventually met a really great girl that I'm currently seeing

and give up the whole doing what you think they want thing, trust me you'll get sick of that real fast, if you can't be yourself then it certainly isn't going to turn into anything long term, don't worry about not having a serious relationship so far, they can be hard to come by but are certainly worth it

lol I know none of that really helps any but if I ever learn of a quick fix all solution to all lifes problems I'll be sure to market it and sell it to everyone at an immensly inflated price