Man can never truly please a woman

[JAG2888]

While it is just a thought, I really think that while men and women have passionate relationships, a woman can only be truly and completely pleased by another woman. They hold a deep bound to one another in a way that a man can never fully explain or understand. Just a deep thought while thinking of the beauty of the woman of my life. :hot:

[Nice Guy]

So by your logic then a man could only be pleased by another man. Or is it that you only think women share a deep bond with members of their gender and guys don't. Just a thought of mine.

[huntersgirl]

I'm not sure that that is true, maybe for some women. I have not had a deep bond with another female since junior high, and I wouldn't say that that was a deep bond! I have always been closer to men, and not just sexually! I do envy the women I know that have found another woman to have that kind of connection with though, and I am open to having meaningful friendships with women. It just hasn't happened yet! I'll keep looking. Oh and btw...I feel very fufilled by my friendship with my s/o. There is nothing that I couldn't share with him. The bond is there!:)

[osuche]

I've always found myself more able to be friends with guys -- women can be so caddy at times....and you never feel like you need to compete. I'm certain I don't agree!

[LixyChick]

I don't agree! Well...wait. That isn't a fair answer as I don't fully understand what you mean by "truly and completely pleased".

Sexually?

In all there is to love and life?

No matter. I've thought it over as I asked those questions and I still don't agree! For me, I need the male bond in my life and could never be completely satisfied if I had no men in my life or bed!

[imaginewithme]

I have to agree with osuche. I have always had more guy friends then women. I changed that and then found out that it's still true as an adult...women want to nag, compete and hurt you. Where a man tells you if you look good, can just be friends and hang out and no pressure as to dressing to fit in, etc. I do have a couple girl friends that I could not live without, but mostly am closer to guys.
As far as sexually...sure a woman might look good to me and I may wonder what it would be like to taste her, but I know that I need him to finish me....if you know what I mean.

[TinTennessee]

I personally have more male friends than female friends. I seem to make a good "little sister" and I treasure my friends and would do anything for them. I have found that as friends, women suck. They are competitive and back stabbing bitches and will turn on you in a heartbeat.

This may be because I'm not a prissy, materialistic, self-centered person and get along much better as just "one of the guys". It has been my experience that if a woman has a problem with you, she will talk about it to everyone else, but you. If a man has something to say about you, he will say it to your face.

[Coaster]

Isn't this interesting!!!!

I can count on one hand the close guy friends I talk to regularly.

But I have many more girl friends that I talk to, pick on and tease on a regular basis.

Maybe they just see me as the harmless ol guy!:)

[Teddy Bear]

JAG,

Personally I couldn't disagree with you more. While what you say may be true for some women, going by the replys to this thread it obviously isn't for all of us. Like the ladies before me, I've always had more guy friends then girl friends. Even to this day I find it easier to talk to and share things with a guy.

I think when you find your 'soul-mate', your 'true-love', your 'happy-ever-after' person, it doesn't matter if they're male or female. You are complete with them and they fill all your needs and desires. For some thats male and for some thats female. I don't think you can make a generalized statement like you did and have it hold true for everyone.

If you really believe what you said, then you must feel you do not completely satisfy your SO. Thats to bad. What are her thoughts on this?

[PashkinThePanther]

Originally posted by Coaster
Isn't this interesting!!!!

I can count on one hand the close guy friends I talk to regularly.

But I have many more girl friends that I talk to, pick on and tease on a regular basis.

Maybe they just see me as the harmless ol guy!:)

I know exactly what you mean! For some weird reason, I only feel comfortable in the company of women. When I'm out with the lads, then I always feel on edge as if something is gonna happen.

I get the impression that most of the women I know don't feel threatened by me, I wonder why that is... :confused:

[Sharni]

Definately more guy friends and girl friends

So gotta disagree with that too i'm afraid

[JAG2888]

While spending a great deal of time counseling individuals, I found that while many get along great with the opposite sex, it is a very special bond that women have, the passion, heart and love that they seem to hold for one another (no not the girl in the office that drives you nuts) but the individual that always has the smile, listening ear, shoulder to hold the tears of pain, that it seems that no man really understands. It is a very special relationship. It is closer than sisters, and deeper than friends. It is something I have found to be very special and endearing of ladies. Including my soul mate, lover, friend and loving spouse. It, to me, is something so increible about women. Just a thought. :)

[Sharni]

My confidants are all male....i have find them better understanding actually than women (sorry girls)

[huntersgirl]

Just a thought...but after reading all the responses maybe pixies are of a different sort. All though we have differences there is some commanality that drew us to this site. Seems likely to me that people that are more open sexually and not afraid to express themselves in many ways would have a hard time bonding w/ people that are not like that. So maybe we are all EXCEPTIONAL!!!! I am also wondering how we pixie ladies might get on if we knew each other in RL. I haven't seen alot of the cattiness and bitchiness that so irritates me with most women. Obviously we all have our moments, but that includes both sexes! I know this is throwing alot of stereotypes out there, but they do come from somewhere!:)

[Grumble]

I do have more female friends than male and find women to be great friends. This is particualarly so when no sex is involved, attraction yes, but doing it no.

Also I have some very close male friends whom I trust and share feelings and confidences with. They are Pixies though and Pixies are a special breed of people

[Wicked Wanda]

I have watched this thead wih a lot if interest, as I love sex with men and with women. But the two are not the same or even at all interchangable!
The thread has changed from what I thought was a purely sexual question to a discussion about emotional relationships.
My deepest emotional relationships are with other women. I was married once and it wa a horrible experience for me, and yes, I know the biggest part of the problem was that he was a rat prick bastard, but I still bond emotionally with women far better than with men.
I have male friends, and one man in parrticular who is deeply ingrained into my life, emotionally and sexually, but I would be completely lost without Leigh.
Sexually, sex with other women so different as to make any comparison nearly worthless.
Other than the huge difference in the actual act of sex, the softness, the sense of exploration, the sense of sharing that is usually lacking for me in sex with men, there is an additional emotional bond that is FOR ME only present with another woman.
Maybe that is the definition of lesbianism?
But when I am not interested in emotion, when I only want the intensity of orgasm, the ovewhelming rush of physical pleasure, and nothing else, I find a man.
Maybe two.
At the same time.

BiSexually,

Wanda

[quisath]

I totally disagree ....................... "and that's all I've got to say about that".

[Wicked Wanda]

That is a very strange thing to say about my posting. How do you disagree with MY life, and the things that are the parts of MY life?

[Lilith]

WW I am almost 100% positive he is referring to the original post in this thread.

[JAG2888]

I have to think you hit the key to the orginal post that I listed. We seek out the things that make us happy. But we have inner needs that we must share with someone endearingly close. Thank you for insight. :)

[Vigil]

I think that the title is a bit of a red rag.

I wouldn't beat yourself up over this supposed flaw in the male psyche. The responses seem to suggest that the connection between heterosexuals is the most fundamental, it can demonstrate the essence of our existence. It's just not something that we talk about or need counselling over. It's not something we need to know what we feel about it.

When we need to know or analyse what we feel about things, then I agree that women are probably best placed to discuss the issue. Usually because most of the guys have buggered off to do something that interests them (doesn't embarass them).

[Loulabelle]

Originally posted by JAG2888
While spending a great deal of time counseling individuals, I found that while many get along great with the opposite sex, it is a very special bond that women have, the passion, heart and love that they seem to hold for one another (no not the girl in the office that drives you nuts) but the individual that always has the smile, listening ear, shoulder to hold the tears of pain, that it seems that no man really understands. It is a very special relationship. It is closer than sisters, and deeper than friends. It is something I have found to be very special and endearing of ladies. Including my soul mate, lover, friend and loving spouse. It, to me, is something so increible about women. Just a thought. :)


To add my two cents, the kind of relationship you describe sounds exactly like the relationship I have with my sister and my mother....... yes it is a special kind of bond, but then my relationship with my lover is also a special and unique bond, and one of the things that's most exciting about that relationship is that it is so different from the one I have with my close family.......after all, why would I need that kind of bond from someone else when I have such a good one with my female relatives already?

May I also suggest that no-one can 'please' someone else, or 'make someone else happy' - it is YOU who makes you happy, and that's achieved by being true to yourself and being true to your desires.......if your desire is for a sexual relationship with another woman, then that is what will make you happy. On the other hand, for me, for example, having a happy, harmonious and tender relationship with a man (which I hope will result in our having children in a few years time) is what makes me happy.

We're all different, so it's very difficult to generalise the way you have.

[Oldfart]

Just a slightly different take.

JAG has said that for her the tenderness and depth of emotion she finds

with another woman is the most intense relationship she knows.

She says nothing about what the relationships she had before were like.

If she was in the position a lot of girls face who have attempted relationships

with boys who have the sensitivity of a cross-cut saw, her emotional

direction is almost inevietable.

As Lou says, happiness is an internal thing, not something imposed from

outside.

[CunningLinguist]

1) Never lump all women together. Heck never lump all of anything together. There will always be one damned thing that will set off your criteria. I know this becuase I obessess over trying to make things fit into ym own narrow view.

2) Being a woman does not automatically mean that you can automatically satisfy every woman out there. You would be surprised how many women can get into their 20's and never have masturbated or came on their own.

Besides there is much more than sex to a relationship. Even I will say that and every serious relationship I ahve ever had started out as a fuck buddy.

3) A lot of women I find always keep one good male friend around for emotional support much like guys do. If a woman is truly wise or lucky that man would be her husband.

[quisath]

Originally posted by Wicked Wanda
That is a very strange thing to say about my posting. How do you disagree with MY life, and the things that are the parts of MY life?


As Lilith has pointed out Wanda ................... I wasn't refering to your Post. I always stick to the Original Subject. So Chill.........

[Wicked Wanda]

****freezes****
Oops...
Sorry hon.

WW

[ChinesePussy]

sometimes i don't udnerstand men :(