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dreamgurl
02-26-2004, 03:46 PM
Today I was looking through a copy of YM magazine, for teen girls that is about fashion , boys, ect.
and much to my surprize came across a few swear words, I know that kids to talk like that but in a national publication for tweens i find this ridiclious.
have any of you had problems with this and finding that these kids are acting like mini adults without knowing the meaning of the words they say?
do you feel that it's just keeping up with the times?
please share
LixyChick
02-26-2004, 05:44 PM
I haven't seen any of those mags dreamgurl......but I was wondering....what words were used and in what context?
WildIrish
02-26-2004, 05:50 PM
Lixy...
Can I follow you around just to see your av?
dreamgurl
02-26-2004, 07:23 PM
well the article was about the most shocking moments on mtv over the past year it was , "damn claymates" , and they have been known to use "if you want an ass like j-lo" on the fitness articles they had a few years ago when i got the mag
Lilith
02-26-2004, 08:34 PM
Just as language that was socially unacceptable centuries ago is acceptable today, the social aspects of language are constantly evolving. I can think of words I'd rather my children not use, that to me are worse than damn shit ass.
Teddy Bear
02-26-2004, 09:23 PM
Having two daughters our house has seen quite a few of these magazines. I was shocked many times by the content. But actually they opened the door for many varied, interesting and deep conversations with both of them. They know they can come to me with any questions or concerns and they'll get a fair answer from me..... followed by my personal feelings on the matter and a 'Mom' lecture if needed. I think it's unfortunate that many young girls will read these magazines with no input from an adult in thier life and thier opinions will be formed by that magazine and peers only. I think thats sad.
lol -- am I long winded today or what??
In re-reading your original post dreamgurl I realized you were commenting on the use of swear words in the magazines. I think it lessens the quality of the magazine to use them. Professional publications, (New York Times, Newsweek, etc) do not use swear words and they get the point across. I think these magazines use them for 'shock' value and to attrack the kids, who I'm sure think it's 'cool'. But, your right, probably many of them have no clue on the meaning and just repete them. Again, it goes back to needing an involved adult in thier life.
ok -- I'm finally done. lol
rockintime
02-26-2004, 09:51 PM
Hooray for George Carlin's 7 dirty words skit!!! :D
Belial
02-26-2004, 10:04 PM
If I had kids I'd rather them say "This businessman is a lying motherfucker" than "I want the new Britney single!".
BamaKyttn
02-26-2004, 10:17 PM
or maybe damn that cheap whore???? >hides in shame with her headphones with brit, BSB and other embaressing shit burned on the cd<
dreamgurl
02-26-2004, 10:19 PM
nothing is embarrassing about BSB! and i can't wait till the other cd comes out, yeah i never grew out of boy bands lol
Belial
02-26-2004, 10:22 PM
My neighbors were playing New Kids On The Block last night.
BamaKyttn
02-26-2004, 11:03 PM
NKOTB fuckin rule...... shit no I dunno they were about a year before I started listening to music, for anything more than noise.
Steph
02-27-2004, 12:45 AM
I work for a well-known dating site and we're constantly questioning what to allow on the site . . . for a while "BS" and "jackass" were rejected because they were considered foul language.
We're constantly re-evaluating rules . . .
I think the teen mag was trying to be hip wid da lingo.
Loulabelle
02-27-2004, 05:39 AM
I'm not sure about American teen magazines, but when I was a teen (not that long ago!) I found the benefit I got from the magazines I read, far made up for the slang language, horrendous grammar and sometimes shallow content.
Magazines gain their credibility amongst kids by the use of occasional 'risque' language (I personally wouldn't call 'damn' and 'ass' swear words) and then use that credibility to get across important message about drug use, and underage sex, in a way that sometimes school, parents, church etc cannot.
Magazines which may appear to be somewhat too adult for teenagers are often a better way for them to satisfy their curiosity about the adult world than if they are getting misinformation from their peers, or worse still experimenting with things they shouldn't.
That's just my opinion of course.
WildIrish
02-27-2004, 09:41 AM
My 8yr old daughter loves watching the bbc version of "What not to wear". Considering my taste in clothing, I don't discourage her. I suppose watching Trinny grope Susannah's chest and say "You can wear a top like this because you've got tits." might be a little graphic, but my daughter will be amply endowed when she grows up. It's important that she is comfortable with her body and not embarassed by her chest (like my wife was throughout school) and seeing them talked about it nonchalantly in a discussion about clothing isn't harmful in my opinion.
Start talking about how someone put their hand on your ass, or was caressing your tits and we've got a problem. Then it's time to send the kids out of the room while I carefully monitor the show.
Grumble
02-28-2004, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Belial
If I had kids I'd rather them say "This businessman is a lying motherfucker" than "I want the new Britney single!".
Well I have kids and motherfucker is a disgusting word (or perhaps two) and I would much rather them listen to brittany than say that.
My 15 year old daughter reads those Girl magazines like Dolly and Girlfriend and they are quite good reading. A lot of solid stuff in them as well as the teeny boy/girl articles.
Belial
02-28-2004, 09:30 AM
I know it's a disgusting word, but what do you use to describe disgusting people?
I'm not saying that either one of those judgements is necessarily right or wrong, I'm just using them as an example to make my point that I would be more concerned about having my kids develop good critical thinking skills than society's attitudes to the words they use to express that criticism. "Motherfucker" is a very powerful and expressive word which can be used to intensify a negative judgement of a person, and sometimes that's necessary. If I find out someone has been diddling my bank balance to buy a yacht, then they're not going to get away with "dastardly cad".
dreamgurl
02-28-2004, 02:30 PM
i do agree that these magazines have very good articles in them, they did help me alot a few years ago. but do they have to use such language to get through to these young readers?
Glyndwr
03-01-2004, 09:48 AM
Unfortunately this world is changing faster than people care to admit. You only have to do a bit of research into how our parents lived and what they found 'repulsive' about their children's behaviour to see what the younger generation is trying is nothing new. They just need barriers to break and parents to shock. All I can do as a parent is give them guidance and somewhere to return to if it all goes to shit.
Mercutio
03-01-2004, 10:17 AM
Some time ago a kid (approximately 8 y/o) was talking about fucking. I asked him if he knew what that meant. He told me it was a sort of fisting, but then with your penis. I couldn't help but laugh.
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