Pixies Place Forums - ~"Scuse Me Jacko"~

LixyChick

11-19-2003, 07:10 PM

Sorry guys.....guess I could have explained that better, but I was just out the door and they hadn't really gotten the whole poop as of my original post......

Matter of fact.....I don't know what happened all day in this matter.....just got home and of course......hubby has the Simpsons on! LMFAO!

Just have to say this about the topic............

I think that, along with Michael, they should arrest the parents of all the children put in harms way by being allowed to spend time at NeverLand! If you dangle cheese in front of a mouse.....doesn't he take it sooner or later??????

Oh....and one more thing.....it's said, where there is smoke...there is usually fire! So....innocent till proven guilty can only be taken so far (so many times).......and then I just have to say........cut his nads off!!!!!!!

*jumps off the soapbox and looks at hubbies remote control....wondering if I even have a chance over Homer*

dicksbro

11-19-2003, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by LixyChick
Oh....and one more thing.....it's said, where there is smoke...there is usually fire! So....innocent till proven guilty can only be taken so far (so many times).......and then I just have to say........cut his nads off!!!!!!!

No disagreement here. What is wrong with some of these people? Or is people the wrong word for the likes of him/her/whatever? :mad:

You know of course, Lixy, that you don't really have to be so subtle. We're big people and you can tell us how you really feel. :D

south

11-19-2003, 07:33 PM

That Michael Jackson keeps adding new meaning to the expression "oh-Boy!"

jennaflower

11-19-2003, 07:51 PM

okay... okay... I know... innocent until proven guilty... and such.. but good heavens... after reading the account of the boy involved in the episode 10 years ago... I think the odds are pretty good that he had done it again...

THO... I also firmly believe that the parents of this child should be charged as well... at the very least... endangering the welfare of a child...

LixyChick

11-19-2003, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by dicksbro
You know of course, Lixy, that you don't really have to be so subtle. We're big people and you can tell us how you really feel. :D
I've thought of counciling.....to open up.......but I'm too shy to ask for help hun!

ROFLMFAO!

Sooooooooooooooo.........who wants to talk ball chopping?

musicman

11-19-2003, 07:57 PM

man - how long do you think he'll take to be the bitch in jail (though he'll probably buy his way out of general population)

Vigil

11-20-2003, 01:06 AM

Our modern day Frankenstein born of a culture of celebrity and ego mania.

Mr. Jackson should take some time to read Mary Shelley's book - particularly the end.

P.S. Lix - I don't think he's got any nads to take off - explains the voice and the behaviour.

Grumble

11-20-2003, 01:42 AM

I always thought that no good could come from fucking little boys

celticangel

11-20-2003, 04:56 AM

high time this guy was given proffesion help, assesment and then either treatment/ jail/ left alone instead of being surroundrd by "arselickers!" (people there because they want to be in his reflected glory)~~~~~and as for anyone daft enough to allow their kids to become involved with someone with all theses issues and rumours hanging on him~~~~~~~~someone should suggest "parenting skills" once they return to what is generaly concidered normality!

LixyChick

11-20-2003, 06:16 AM

I saw a repeat of an interview Michael did with a British reporter a while back...........

He was asked about having children sleep in his bed with him......

He said, "The most loving thing a person can do is share your bed with someone".

He sees NOTHING wrong with this behavior! I watched his face as he answered.......I looked into his eyes......he's a fuckin kook!

[As of this moment, they are waiting for Michael to fly in from La. and they expect him to turn himself in. His bail will be 3 million dollars. The child in question (12 years old) had been visiting NeverLand periodically and was soon teased at school for his relationship with Michael. He began therapy and during the course of therapy, told the therapist that Michael had given him sleeping pills and wine. On one visit to NeverLand (seemingly while the boy was still in therapy) the mother said that she felt uncomfortable and that her family was being held hostage. She threatened to call the authorities, and only then were her and her children allowed to leave.]

OK......WTF is up with that "mom"? And the therapist too! Arrest um all, damn it to hell! CA hit it on the head.....about all the asslickers surrounding Michael! If that where "Joe Schmoe", his ass would be behind bars NOW! The warrant they have for Michael is valid in all 50 states.........but, like O.J....they'll let him come back to his home and make a big to-do about waiting for him to turn himself in! I'm so angry right now.....I could rip Michael's balls off with one hand! Oops! That's right Vigil.......do we even know he has nads anymore?

Well.....it's a wait and see game now. And the worst part of this......Michael is prolly liking all this attention. He has a new album coming out.....and even bad publicity is publicity!

jseal

11-20-2003, 06:21 AM

LixyChick,

I hadn't heard about the sleeping pills and wine! What would posess someone to do that to a 12 year old?

Oh, this may be "off topic", but you really do have a fine looking ass.

Lilith

11-20-2003, 06:47 AM

12 year olds are old enough to 1) put up a fight and 2) know it's wrong and 3) think MJ is is a freak. It's just like the guys who use ruphies in college areas, lack of confidence in their ability to score.

Nightstick26

11-20-2003, 12:12 PM

Why is Jacko like a low quality fast food restaurant???

40 year old meat in 12 year old buns! :D:D:D

the only proper cure for Jacko

lakritze

11-20-2003, 01:11 PM

"They got tucked in bed..It was so charming. ......so sweet." Courtesy of Salon.com.... Latest news is that he is flying around parts unknown in his private jet.It might be a little late to rip his balls off.I think he had it done years ago to give himself that castrado singing voice.

2-4-tea

11-20-2003, 02:01 PM

they need to put his ass away and give him a cell mate named bubba who does to him excatly what he did to them. The first time it might have happened maybe it was bs but it all got washed away when he paid off the family. After that I just could nt see how anything he says or does is truthful. I often wonder how many families he has paid off to keep quiet . Its wrong that it has happened for this long

Irish

11-20-2003, 03:47 PM

Sight to be FOREVER cherished-just seen on the TV news-MJ with
his hands,handcuffed behind him!
Favoritism??---The last time,that I was arrested,for anything,
called serious,was in the early '70s.I was arrested,at my motorcycle shop,for Aggravated Assault.I may be wrong,but I think that I was arrested on the spot.I don't remember being
called,and told to turn myself in at my convenience. Irish

Belial

11-20-2003, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by 2-4-tea
they need to put his ass away and give him a cell mate named bubba who does to him excatly what he did to them.

"You fuck mah ass....ahh fuck your'n" :D

LixyChick

11-20-2003, 07:41 PM

Why did they kick Michael Jackson out of the Boy Scouts?

Because he was up to a pack a day!

I heard so many M.J. jokes today and that's the only one (aside from lakritze's) that I can remember the punch line to! Now.....that's funny! I suck at telling jokes anyway........

Sooooooooo...........WoooooooHoooooooo! I haven't seen M.J. in cuffs yet (TY for the info Irish), but I am so looking forward to it!

P.S. Um.....jseal? Shhhhhhhh! Don't say "fine looking ass" in a thread about Michael Jackson! :D ........Oh....and TYVM!!!

*blushes*

Vigil

11-21-2003, 12:53 AM

I think this man wishes to be or maybe believes he already has the body and mind of a pre-pubescent white boy - Peter Pan perhaps.

Neverland is his fantasy reality in which he surrounds himself by what he most desires to be or thinks he is. Acts of "love" reinforce the existential idealism.

Perfectly normal behaviour and no danger to anyone.

I am off to get the Fava Beans and Chianti.

huntersgirl

11-21-2003, 01:37 AM

I was just commenting earlier this evening that if MJ was anybody else he would have been institutionalized years ago. And most likely if he was none of this would have happened. The man is completely off his rocker, but now w/ all that has come to light, I believe he deserves to be put away forever. I'm almost ready to say killed, but I really go back and forth on the whole capital punishment issue.

Mercury_Maniac

11-21-2003, 03:14 AM

wow,

i guess i'm just kind of disappointed with some of the comments on here

i've been a MJ fan for years and i really enjoy his songs still today

i understand how people feel about child molesting and whatnot(i know its friggin' gross) but like they say, Innocent until proven Guilty, and i do believe in the songs that he sang

"HEAL THE WORLD, MAKE IT BETTER PLACE"

Grumble

11-21-2003, 06:13 AM

Its not his songs that are in dispute

He is truly a wacko which is also Ok but these things keep on surfacing and it is hard to think there is no substance to any of it.

He likes sleeping with 12 year olds in his bed that is just not proper.

LixyChick

11-21-2003, 06:17 AM

No one is attacking the talent of Michael Jackson, Mercury Maniac. I grew up with The Jackson Five.......and there are some songs of his in his adult life that are ok......but he's nowhere near my favorite artist. But that's neither here nor there in the light of what's [been] happening and is happening now......again! Michael is a man......he is my age as a matter of fact......and not a defenseless child. Because of who he is he seems to be slipping through the cracks when, instead, he needs to be stopped and he needs to get help. In his sheltered world, he truly doesn't think that what he is doing is wrong. Even if (and I say "if" with a squeak in my voice) he hasn't molested anyone (and I believe he has....my opinion......all the signs are there......doesn't take a rocket scientist), his need to continually have children sleep over his house, in his bed, with him in it as well.......cannot be construed as "ok" behavior! There isn't another person on the planet who would be able to explain this behavior in themselves as "normal, healthy and innocent"!

Some lyrics of his songs...........

*We are the world, We are the children, We are the ones to make a better world so let's start giving.....There's a choice we're making, We're saving our own lives.....It's true we make a better world, just you and me!

*You know I'm bad, come on, ya know it, come on.........(lol! It had to be quoted!)

*I'm starting with the man in the mirror....I'm asking him to change his ways........And no lesson could be any clearer......If you wanna make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change!

*Ben....the two of us need look no more......We both found what we were looking for....With a friend to call my own, I'll never be alone, and you my friend will see, you've got a friend in me...(ok...ok.....no point here....I just love that song! LMAO!)

But really MM........Michael Jackson is an outstanding artisit with a dirty little secret that is hurting children and their familes everytime we bury our heads to it........

We've outed the priests......now we are outing M.J. No offense to his music..........BIG OFFENSE to the charges of child molestation time and time again!

Mercury_Maniac

11-21-2003, 12:34 PM

but it hasn't been proven yet

LixyChick

11-21-2003, 01:10 PM

No matter what the outcome of this trial (arraignment set for January).............

And no matter what I feel about his music...........

The man's a nut case and his behavior is beyond reproach and all his yes men and all his kings horses....yada, yada, yada....cannot make me think he doesn't need medical treatment for a mental condition!!! His behavior towards children is NOT behavior that a civilized society expects of any adult. He should have gotten this all in check (since the last incident) and changed his lifestyle to ensure that these allegations would never happen again.....if he is indeed not guilty.

They say.....the guilty always return to the scene of the crime!

They also say.......learn from past mistakes so you are not doomed to repeat them!

*OMG! I'm a walking, talking cliche.....eekkkk!*

Aqua

11-21-2003, 01:54 PM

I always thought that no good could come from fucking little boys.
Michael Jackson is an outstanding artisit with a dirty little secret that is hurting children and their familes

You have PROOF of this? Do any of you have proof that these allegations are true? Mercury Maniac is dead on right. The constitution grants us all the right to a fair trial. Would any of you want that taken away if you were accused of a crime? Sorry, but it really bothers me when people make judgements about others without knowing all the facts. So many people did that with the Kobe Bryant case... and with OJ. And after the fact, depending on the outcome, people will say, "See?! I was right!" But that is incorrect. All they did was guess. Talking about what you think he has done is one thing, but some of you want Jacko castrated or possibly put to death, and this is on the basis of media reports and heresay.

ALSO>>> So you know I'm not just wishing I could be a guest at the Neverland Ranch... I think MJ has mental issues and there is NO WAY IN HECK I would allow my child to stay there overnight... or even go there for the day. But mental issues do not prove he is a child molester.

One more thing before I step off the soapbox...

Please DO keep the jokes coming... 'Pack a day'... lmao

lakritze

11-21-2003, 01:58 PM

Yea,like the song he'll be singing to Bubba. Beat It Beat It.......heh heh

BIBI

11-21-2003, 02:00 PM

just sitting here wondering if child protection services have been brought in to take his own kids from him until the outcome of the trial??????????????

If it was a regular folk they would have been apprehended before I could have typed this!!!

Aqua

11-21-2003, 02:07 PM

From what I have heard Bibi, his kids were not taken by CPS. Although I do think you are correct that MJ is certainly not being treated as a common citizen. Granted, he is not a common citizen, but he should not be given special dispensation due to his celebrity status.

celticangel

11-21-2003, 02:11 PM

God help his weans!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

nikki1979

11-21-2003, 02:17 PM

i have to agree w MM and aqua, we dont KNOW what he has done, true all signs point to it but its his right to be "innocent untill proven guilty" we wont know the outcomeof this for a long time , the arrignment is jan9th but that will jsut be a plea, and ill be truly schocked if he pleads guilty or even no contest, im sure hell plead innocent , i agree thats its totally wrong to have children in ur bed if they arnt urs. hell i dont even let mine sleep w me unless they have a nightmare and then i sleep on the couch w them untill they are out and get put back to thier beds. i think we need to step bck fromthis and wait till we get more evidence on it. u never know the boy cud be making the claim bc him and his family are pissed mJ stoped giving them money. u just never know. every one knows what happened 10 yrs ago, what better background do they need to support the case . ether outcome MJ does need a bit of help w growing up and reality tho.
~nikki~

LixyChick

11-21-2003, 02:30 PM

No proof Aqua! That's why they are allegations.......and ergo the reason I said......where there is smoke, there is..."usually"....fire!

I'm not so sure M.J. could ever get a fair trial in ANY case that was brought against him.......because of the media attention he gets and IS getting now.....because of the allegations.

However, I stand by my statement that you quoted above........that M.J. is an outstanding artist with a dirty little secret that is hurting children and their families!

I never declared him guilty of this allegation!

I'm just of the opinion that the things that go on at NeverLand are NOT in the realm of norm (dirty little secrets), and each and every time a parent allows....and Michael invites.....children to his home for sleepovers.........they and he are perpetuating his faults of the past and leaving an opening for a case such as this to be brought against him.......and the children and families involved are investigated and put under a microscope.......and NO GOOD ever comes of any of this. By "no good"....I mean.....Michael skates.......and the families get money....but they have to live with the lie they conjured (if it was a lie) or the fact that they were given hush money (if it was true, yet they settled) and they know it'll happen again to some other child......and Michael never gets medical attention.........and thus it begins again!

Obviously everyone surrounding Michael is in it for the money. If just one person that he trusted and loved and that loved him, would tell him......"Michael, this can't go on! You have a serious problem and you need attention".........and he got it.......who knows how much more wonderful Michael could be!

So.......*raspberries* to you Aqua! LOL!

*ducks*

Irish

11-21-2003, 03:36 PM

Eventho I hate steriotypes---If it walks like a Duck & quacks like a
Duck.It's probably a Duck.He has a better chance than if he was
accused of molesting one of my grandchildren! Irish

Lovediva

11-21-2003, 04:49 PM

Here is a picture I just got in my email... :D

Navarre

11-21-2003, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Lovediva
Here is a picture I just got in my email... :D

ROFLMFAO

Ohhhh!
It hurts from laughing Diva.
Thanks.

Irish

11-21-2003, 08:08 PM

Diva---That e-mail,must have made the rounds today.I got the
exact same one,from my wife(at work)this morning! Irish

Teddy Bear

11-21-2003, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Aqua
... I think MJ has mental issues and there is NO WAY IN HECK I would allow my child to stay there overnight... or even go there for the day. But mental issues do not prove he is a child molester.

Very well put Aqua, MM and Nikki. I'd hate to think that someday I might be accused of a crime & not be given a fair trial before conviction. It could get to the point that you could be taken from your home and put in prison or shot on the spot with no trial at all. Our constitution was written so things like that never happen.

On the other hand, agreeing with Aqua, I would never allow any child I know to spend time with him. The guys so ugly I don't understand how a child could sleep without having nightmares anyhow. MJ's what is called a '2 bagger'. Put a bag over his head and then put one over yours just in case his breaks.

What do Wal-Mart and MJ have in common?

They both have little boys underwear half off.

teddy :)

Grumble

11-22-2003, 06:40 AM

He is due a fair trial and he is innocent until proven guilty

Thats the law and right of a citizen in a democracy.

However I am able to express my opinion and I think he is not a fit person to be around children due to his admission that he like to have 12 year old sleep in the same bed with him. Not once or twice but many times according to the former head of his security guard.

It makes me shudder that this man is allowed to continue doing it. If it was me I would be locked away and I hope this is the fate that is bestowed on wacko if the law follows it proper course and he is found guilty under it

jseal

11-22-2003, 11:33 PM

nikki1979,

We will never KNOW what happened. Neither the justice system - nor anything else created by humans - is 100%

jseal

11-22-2003, 11:35 PM

You take your best shot with what you have.

nikki1979

11-23-2003, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by jseal
nikki1979,

We will never KNOW what happened. Neither the justice system - nor anything else created by humans - is 100%

yes true but we will know far more after the trial starts than we do now, i am not nessacerly standin up for jacko ( i wud never send my children to him for all the money in the world) but im standing up for the american way and the justice system (and yes i do know it has its fautls) . and i will not make my mind up one way or the other untill there is much more eveidence , that will be a long way off unfortunatly, so we will just have to wait w open minds.

~nikki~

jseal

11-23-2003, 12:17 PM

nikki1979,

Yes'm. And your caution is quite sensible also.

Kendall

11-23-2003, 12:18 PM

he has to do something to keep in the public eye.. and this is the best he could come up with.. I look forward to hearing about his new life in a comunnal penal ward

nikki1979

11-23-2003, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Kendall
he has to do something to keep in the public eye.. and this is the best he could come up with.. I look forward to hearing about his new life in a comunnal penal ward

kendall hun , as i said innocent untill proven guilty hun , if he is guilty i sure as hell hope he ends up there , i pray our justice system doesnt let him buy his way out. if he is guitly he will end up in either the prison for sex offenses or a insane asylum, i think either inncent or guitly he needs to spend a wee bit of time in the later to help him get a grip on reality.
~nikki~

nikki1979

11-23-2003, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by jseal
nikki1979,

Yes'm. And your caution is quite sensible also.

heheheh i do belive thats the first time anyone has ever uttered the words caution and sensible in reference to me !!!!!! ty dear
~nikki~

BIBI

11-23-2003, 02:29 PM

Well I thought it ten years ago and I think it now....I think the idiot is guilty.......especially after seeing that special where he tried to explain how sweet his timeswere spent tucking in the kids. He creeped me out. I know I know....innocent until proven guilty.....I shall shut up now!

oh, except to say this.....his nose is not the result of plastic surgery. Nope! He has been thumbing it for so many years at everyone......it rubbed off!

Kendall

11-26-2003, 10:29 AM

nikki,

you pray for the justice system... in my advanced years, I know it needs it.. money can get you off. promise..

kendall

a realist

Kendall

11-26-2003, 10:31 AM

Bibi,

Enjoyed having you on top of me during this.

Kendall

jseal

11-26-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Kendall
...money can get you off...

Kendall,

Hopefully, not this time.

BIBI

11-26-2003, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Kendall
Bibi,

Enjoyed having you on top of me during this.

Kendall

LMAO @ kendall

I have always maintained that I love to be on top of the situation......:lust: ;)

Irish

11-26-2003, 11:02 AM

In the American justice system,you are innocent until proven guilty
In Irish's justice system,NO one is innocent.Money CAN get you off!
I don't feel like writing,the whole thing,but I can tell anyone how it
happened to me!It's not what you did,It's WHO you know & how
much money you can spend!If anyone wants the details,just PM
me!I have told how it works in other threads. Irish

jseal

11-26-2003, 11:17 AM

Irish,

Try to think of the American justice system, and all justice systems for that matter, as works in progress, or possibly as "the best we can do right now".

I am hard pressed to think of anyone who claims that the American justice system is perfect, but I think the general consensus is that it strives to to deliver what Americans believe justice to be.

Remember that what is just in Vermont may not be seen to be just in Nevada - or any where outside of Vermont for that matter.

Irish

11-26-2003, 11:29 AM

jseal---The incident,that happened to me,happened in NH,where I
live now.My(deceased)father was a Conn.State Policeman & also
an Aux. town policeman,in the town where I grew up in Conn.I've
seen how the justice system works for years.As long as humans
are involved,there will be corruption.Remember:NOTHING is illegal
,unless you get caught doing it!Show me someone,who has NEVER done anything illegal & I will show you a very RARE or
nieve(sp?) person! Irish
P.S.My incident,was in the late 60s/early 70s!

lakritze

11-26-2003, 06:37 PM

Irish,You are right about the justice system in this country.Unfortunately money talks.But this is a symptem of the fact that America has been under the influence of a conservative idealogy for far to long.It simply means that the rich have a different standard than the rest of us.this truth was apperant during the O.J. Simpson trial as well.Before the trial even got started,the judge declaired that the death penality would not be appropraite in this case.WHY? If he was found guilty of murdering two people,why would it not be approprite???? We have lived under a double standarded set up by a very conservative minority for far to long.It is high time that equal justice for all be the rule.I'am not saying that the death penalty is a good thing,but I certainaly took notice when O.J. was exempt from it even before the trial began just because he had the money to get off and the name recoginition to forgo the formalties that others would have to face in the same situation.As you said before,money can buy the type of justice you will recieve in a criminal court. So we'll just have to sit back and see what Michael Jackson's trial will be like.If I can commend one conservative republican for doing the right thing,it would be Gov.Ryan of Illinois for putting a moritoriam on the death penality.Because he realized it was being abused.Of course,Michael Jackson has not comitted any capital offense,but the same rules of justice do apply.

Vigil

11-26-2003, 07:40 PM

Ain't nothin like a good ol' fashion cyber lynchin'.

Justice? Please my Pixie Pals - listen to Irish - you go to court, you may as well toss a coin - unless of course you can fix the coin.

I think the poor man is a very sad case and if he has harmed other people in the the process then maybe your justice system will do something to stop him. But how many more muderers and general scumbags have walked free?

Whether your courts find him innocent or guilty as charged, my opinion of him won't change.

P.S. Lix - is your AV a homage to Billy Connelly?

jseal

11-26-2003, 08:11 PM

lakritze,

Interesting.

When has money not talked? Where has money not talked?

How long is "far to long"? Would that correspond to the 48 (1954 - 1992) years of a Democratic majority in Congress? Or the 4 Democratic Presidents who were elected to office during that period, which then gave that party control of both the Legislative as well as the Executive branches of the Federal government? Would a shorter period, say of 24 years been better?

How did a minority go about setting up the double standard? What was this group, and why is it described as a minority? What criteria are being applied to judge it "very conservative"?

As I'm sure you have read Judge Ito's opinion as to why he excluded the death penalty from the trial, would you share it? I would appreciate reading the legal critique that supports the criticism in the post.

I was under the impression that the good Governor Ryan is considered to be a moderate Republican, rather than a conservative. Indeed, by placing a moritorium on the death penalty (as the retention of the death penalty is generally considered to be a conservative position) wouldn’t he be dallying with – gasp – a Liberal notion? Do you think perhaps it might be a question of one’s point of view? Or is it that to belong to that political party is to be defined as a conservative?

jseal

11-26-2003, 08:18 PM

Vigil,

I think it is important to keep in mind that that a cyber lynching, good, old or otherwise is not at all like the real thing – it is much, much better than the real thing.

Vigil

11-26-2003, 08:23 PM

Q.E.D. jseal

jseal

11-26-2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Vigil
Q.E.D. jseal

Vigil,

"Thus it is shown"? What?

Vigil

11-26-2003, 08:32 PM

That fantasy is preferable to reality (in this case)

erat - has been

jseal

11-26-2003, 08:41 PM

Vigil,

Ah. Fair enough. And you are quite correct. Sorry 'bout that.

Vintage Vixen

11-28-2003, 06:24 AM

My question to errrr Mr Jackson is ,after the first accusations in 93
the bad publicity for himself and his family,WHY?WHY? Would you Jacko still have pajama partys (ahem) with little boys? No doubt he's one twisted human being ,lawyers say he's a very private person well then don't do the sick shit ya been doin .The parents who send there kids there for sleepovers aren't without blame either especially knowing his history.Mr Jacko is in for another major meltdown and i'm not talking bout all the plastic in his face either.

jseal

11-28-2003, 09:53 AM

Vintage Vixen,

Over the next little while, the good Mr. Jackson will have many opportunities to reflect upon his domestic decisions of the recent past. Given his notorious past, one might indeed question the decisions of the parents of the children.

Still, you'll need to be patient, the legal process marches to the beat of a rather slow drummer.

Vintage Vixen

11-28-2003, 12:37 PM

Gee maybe i'm watching to much Law and Order but where's
Ice T and Munch when you need them?

BIBI

11-28-2003, 06:48 PM

and Lenny and Ed too??????

LixyChick

11-28-2003, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Vigil
P.S. Lix - is your AV a homage to Billy Connelly?
OK....well now....hmmmmmmm??? I've thought this over....and the only thing I can equate to my ass and Billy Connelly (or Connolly.....or however he spells it....if I am even thinking of the same person......*commedian, Scottish....rip roaring funny*) is the time he told of the guy on the plane in the seat next to him.......sleeping.....and *letting one rip* that sounded like.....the noise made when Errol Flynn lunged through the air with a knife in his teeth and gripped the knife just as he got to the mast of the ship and plunged the knife in and it began to rip down the length of the mast and made a long, disturbing noise!

So.....um Vigil hun? Ya better not be meaning that in comparison! If so.....bend over....cause I'm gonna spank ya mighty hard! :D

Irish

11-29-2003, 12:40 AM

News Flash(maybe)!!!!M.J. might not have to worry.I just saw, a news brief,that said that his accuser,in the molestation case,was
living on ONE kidney & now that is failing!He is VERY sick & in dire
need of a kidney transplant! Irish

Vigil

11-29-2003, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by LixyChick

So.....um Vigil hun? Ya better not be meaning that in comparison! If so.....bend over....cause I'm gonna spank ya mighty hard! :D [/B]

Oh what a dilemma!

You have the right man. It was a joke he told in front of our lovely Queen and on a chat show called Parkinson.

Teddy Bear

11-29-2003, 03:29 AM

How can you tell Michael Jacksons having a party?

By all the tri-cycles parked on the front lawn.

jseal

11-29-2003, 05:19 AM

Vintage Vixen,

OK. I'll expose my ignorance again. Who are these Ice T and Munch people? Characters from the "Law and Order" television show I presume?

Irish

11-29-2003, 08:54 AM

jseal---They are detectives,on the Special Victims unit.Ice-T is
black & Munch was a stand-up comic,in real life! Irish

BIBI

11-29-2003, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Vintage Vixen
My question to errrr Mr Jackson is ,after the first accusations in 93
the bad publicity for himself and his family,WHY?WHY? Would you Jacko still have pajama partys (ahem) with little boys? No doubt he's one twisted human being ,lawyers say he's a very private person well then don't do the sick shit ya been doin .The parents who send there kids there for sleepovers aren't without blame either especially knowing his history.Mr Jacko is in for another major meltdown and i'm not talking bout all the plastic in his face either.

Well he claims to do it out of innoncence of his actions but as I stated previously I do not believe him to be innocent.
He does it because he can!
In my honest opinion he is emotionally stunted where relationships are concerned and is a text book paedophile who thinks his attraction and actions towards young boys is natural and normal. He holds no shame or guilt. In fact he acts so innocently about his laisons with boys it is as if he is truly void of any blame or wrong doing and that is because someone like him cannot fathom what he is doing is wrong. A paedophile seduces children and somehow believes that the relationship is consensual and rewarding for both. They are wired differently!

As far as the parents who allow their kids to spend such time with him.....I am at a loss of comprehension as to why anyone would allow it......unless they too are seduced by him and his fame. Both my kids hated clowns' faces and would have run for the hills! What that man has done to himself is so sad!
I cannot imagine what would have caused the total self loathing this man feels about himself......he would be a shrinks dream come true.

LixyChick

11-30-2003, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Vigil
Oh what a dilemma!

You have the right man. It was a joke he told in front of our lovely Queen and on a chat show called Parkinson.
OK.....Um..........I remember a joke he told on a comedy show once (Comic Relief....with Whoopie Goldberg and Billy Crystal......I think!?) about common folk being able to scratch their ass whenever they needed/wanted to.........but if the Queen had an itch, she would have to repeat to herself....."Go away itchy ass"....so as not to shock anyone for just being human and scratching!

How'm I doing? Did I nail it? If not.......I give up! But I still want to spank you! *giggle*

*wondering why my ass is being discussed on a Jacko thread*

ROFLMFAO!

jseal

12-02-2003, 01:04 PM

Gentlefolk,

It turns out that our favorite performer will be starring in another new production...

LixyChick

12-02-2003, 04:53 PM

His face doesn't even look as bad in that pic as it does now jseal! Boy! That's such a scary thought! I'm finding it harder to look at him each time he does something news worthy!

jseal

12-18-2003, 09:31 AM

LixyChick,

Today's the day the world gets to know what he's in trouble for.

Irish

12-18-2003, 09:52 AM

FYI---I heard on the radio news,that MJ converted to the Muslim
religion,yesterday! Irish
P.S.One of the funniest things that I heard,was,one of the Talk
Show hosts,on that station(WRKO,Boston)saying,"I thought that
you had to be Black to convert to the Muslim religion.Jim Brown,
Cassius Clay,O.J.(?),& Mike Tyson(?),etc.,will be mad."
P.P.S.Pick a Muslim name for M.J.(Example-Cassius Clay is Mohammed Ali)

Vigil

12-18-2003, 02:08 PM

Asif

jseal

12-18-2003, 02:51 PM

Gentlefolk,

Islam is the religion. Muslim is the practitioner.

Sharni

12-18-2003, 07:41 PM

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty

Last i heard it was said that the kid appeared to have lied...

MJ has a lot of money and assets.....and ppl do some nasty shit where money is concerned...a lot of ppl have tried to grab a slice of his fortune...

MJ has yet to be convicted of paedophilia....so instead of ya all bagging the crap out of him....why dont ya just wait and see what the law manages to find....

People tells lies for self gain....and thats a fact! Wether that is the case here is still to be seen

I much prefer the old MJ to what he has become now....but i hate this whole he did it and thats all there is to it crap....rarely do any of us have ALL the facts to make such a judgement

We only have what the media gives us....and i dunno bout you...but i don't believe everything i read

jseal

12-18-2003, 10:09 PM

Sharniqua,

Well, they are only opinions, and it is General Chat...

jseal

12-18-2003, 11:11 PM

From the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3323237.stm

District Attorney Tom Sneddon said Jackson had been charged with seven counts of child molestation and two counts of administering intoxicating liquor to a minor with the intent of committing a crime

The charges accuse Jackson of molesting a boy, who is identified in court papers only as "John Doe", between 7 February and 10 March this year.

Irish

12-18-2003, 11:22 PM

"ANGER is the wind,that blows out the light of the mind!" Irish
P.S.Tell that to someone,who is mad,and I guarantee,they will
really get "pissed!"Take it from a semi-professional "ball-buster"!

PantyFanatic

12-18-2003, 11:46 PM

Good Sir,

May I offer a tiny bit of insight?:) It would seem you have stumbled into what maybe the nesting of vespula. Surely a gentle fellow of your apparent breeding recognizes that the probing of a laceration does not constitute tickling. I heartily recommend descending from the throne of pomp to don your skirmish cladding. Perhaps the inclusion of the abrasive refinishing of Felis rufus in the constraints of a communication cubical would prove a preferable option.

(for the rest of us...
I just told [whoever may consider in this “general chat” format] he’d be better off trying to sandpaper a bobcat’s ass in a telephone booth than fucking with Sharni);)

BIBI

12-19-2003, 12:06 AM

Still of the opinion he is guilty......

Sharni

12-19-2003, 12:11 AM

Well thats ok BiBi...as has been said we are all entitled to our opinion

To be honest i'm neither way....i'll just wait and see what other evidence surfaces before i make up my mind

LixyChick

12-19-2003, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by PantyFanatic
be better off trying to sandpaper a bobcat’s ass in a telephone booth
I tried that once.............

One only ever has to try that once!

Oh....the silly things we do as young adults on weed! :D

jseal

12-19-2003, 02:14 PM

PantyFanatic,

A vivid metaphor! A sanding of that nature seems to be what the DA’s office has in mind for Mr. Jackson - although he may fight like a bobcat to prevent it!

Irish

12-28-2003, 11:23 AM

Lixy---We still have hope!I heard on the news,that M.J.,had an
interview,with Ed Bradley(sp?)for tonights "60 min"show.He supposedly,said that he would rather slit his wrists,than molest
a child.Now I can't find my wife!She has been looking for my
"Lansky" knife sharpener.Obviously,she doesn't know the old "Biker" code.You always cut someone with a "dull"knife.That
way they suffer from an infection.It's MUCH more painful! Irish

LixyChick

12-28-2003, 01:13 PM

LMAO Irish! Yeah! I'll prolly watch the interview.......cause Michael is like a train wreck! You don't want to watch it but you can't look away!

Mercury_Maniac

12-28-2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Sharniqua
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty

Last i heard it was said that the kid appeared to have lied...

MJ has a lot of money and assets.....and ppl do some nasty shit where money is concerned...a lot of ppl have tried to grab a slice of his fortune...

MJ has yet to be convicted of paedophilia....so instead of ya all bagging the crap out of him....why dont ya just wait and see what the law manages to find....

People tells lies for self gain....and thats a fact! Wether that is the case here is still to be seen

I much prefer the old MJ to what he has become now....but i hate this whole he did it and thats all there is to it crap....rarely do any of us have ALL the facts to make such a judgement

We only have what the media gives us....and i dunno bout you...but i don't believe everything i read

i agree with you totally

jseal

12-28-2003, 09:56 PM

Mercury_Maniac,

Well, I do believe that we also have a criminal indictment handed down by a Grand Jury. Now the laws in California may be different from those in Maryland, but here the DA cannot prosecute a case if the Grand Jury fails to be persuaded that there is reasonable cause for the prosecution.

Irish

12-29-2003, 12:33 PM

Seeing,part of,the interview,last night,reminded me of an old joke.
I used to be able to lift my arms THIS HIGH,but now I can only lift
them chest high.He kind of shot himself in the foot,when he kept
smoothing his hair,even tho he couldn't raise his arms that high!
Also,it must have been very painful,to raise his arm & flash,the
peace sign,after the police station.(Keep your day-job,don't go
into acting!-Suggestion!) Irish

Catch22

12-29-2003, 12:48 PM

The fact he looks and acts strange is what gets people going. If he was not like that the press and cops wouldn't care. Child sex and rich people make good press and win votes.

BIBI

12-29-2003, 01:13 PM

I would like to think that anyone who is accused of molesting a child would be investigated.....not just strange rich ones who are accused. Of course because he is famous he is getting lots of press coverage. In fact he agreed to the interview only because the network would not run his special unless he did......so it does make one wonder why he did the interview in the first place. I myself don't think it was to try to clear his name....It was so his TV special would air and that to me speaks volumes......
Well that's my opinion for what it's worth! :)

Catch22

12-29-2003, 01:37 PM

They are all using it to make names for themselves or make cash, so is he. I am a long time net user. I have twice had dealings with police over kids and sex.
1).. I was playing a online role playing game. It was clear adults and children where doing sex chat as a result of meeting each other in the game. It took two years to get even minor changes made to the site to limit it. The police in two countries were more interested in who was going to get the credit for catching anyone. As there was no pictures of kids being pasted around they were not in any hurry to do anything.
2).. I have been in chatrooms and yahoo groups over the years. Adult and swinger type groups. I have met women as a result. I found myself in with a group of people that were into everything. one on ones, group/swinging, animal sex and children being used in BD/SM. I reported them. Again all the police were interested in was pictures. No pictures, so no interest.

Irish

12-29-2003, 03:14 PM

BIBI---FYI,I saw the same report on MANY networks.They said that
the network wouldn't play his special,unless he did the interview,
on the same network.(CBS?) Irish
P.S.In the early 70s,I was arrested in Ports,NH,for Aggravated
Assault(a felony)To make a long story short,I eventually went to
Rockingham County,Superior Court.I was sentenced to 3yrs,1day,
in the State Prison.The day means NO PAROLE!My lawyer(Old riding buddy)said "Do you have another $500?He said," Get in your car & go home,you're going to get probation!"I told him that
I couldn't walk thru all of those Baliffs at the door.He said,"Don't
worry,it will be taken care of by then."I don't know who got the
$500,I don't care,I didn't do the time.My probation officer,went to
high school,with my wife.When moving,to a different county,he got me an early release!On his advice,I stayed "clean"for a year,
I took my records to court & for $300 more,I got a complete
record annulment.Like I said before-It's not what you did,it's who
you know & how much money you spend!Now I can apply,for a job & don't have to list any arrests!

jseal

01-16-2004, 12:17 PM

Gentlefolk,

Well, it is official; Mr. Jackson has been arraigned on seven counts of child molestation and two counts of administering intoxicating liquor to a minor with the intent of committing a crime.

Mr. Jackson pleaded not guilty.

Catch22

01-16-2004, 12:21 PM

I wonder if he had his bellhop outfit on to court?

Irish

01-16-2004, 12:59 PM

When watching TV,last night,I was amazed!They covered,the rallys,that his supporters,were having.They were, mostly,young
people,break dancing,and such.His musical talents,aren't whats
on trial.I got the impression,that his supporters,didn't even know
the issues.Your talents,have nothing to do with your lifestyle!I think,that I'm a great mechanic,but that doesn't mean that I don't
have OTHER faults. Irish
P.S.My $.02.

BIBI

01-16-2004, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Catch22
I wonder if he had his bellhop outfit on to court?

I just wonder if he remembered his nose piece!

Catch22

01-16-2004, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by BIBI
I just wonder if he remembered his nose piece!

lol
What a world!

lakritze

01-16-2004, 08:48 PM

Nose Piece? EEEEUUWWWWWWW.....Does he have to have it anchored in place? I saw the picture of his mug shot taken in Santa Barbara. The guy is whiter than I am in the winter time.Long stringy black hair and ruby red lip stick. You are scaring the chidren Michael....You are very ghoulish looking. There is nothing wrong with being eccentric,it's even considered a positive quality to some. But Jeeeeeezus Mike, I hope for your sake you are innocent of these charges.Your fans deserve better from you.

LixyChick

01-16-2004, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Irish
When watching TV,last night,I was amazed!They covered,the rallys,that his supporters,were having.They were, mostly,young
people,break dancing,and such.His musical talents,aren't whats
on trial.I got the impression,that his supporters,didn't even know
the issues.Your talents,have nothing to do with your lifestyle!I think,that I'm a great mechanic,but that doesn't mean that I don't
have OTHER faults. Irish
P.S.My $.02.
Great point Irish! I'm not so sure O.J. would have gotten such a break in his trial had he been a construction worker!

TY for the update jseal.....I miss all this stuff until the weekends!

Seven counts? The same case? I still think the child's parents should be brought up on charges when this case plays through and Michael is convicted or not! D.H.S. should be required to step in and do their utmost duty in a child endangerment case....of which I still think this is. His parent[s] had to have heard of the previous allegations! According to law.......the plea of ignorance is not the best defense!

Vigil

01-17-2004, 01:56 AM

No One is going to win in this case.

Well, apart from the Lawyers of course.

And let's try to remember that it is actually about a Kid, not Mr. Jackson nor the Police nor the DA.

His supporters on TV have that look in their eye as if he is their Messiah - anyone else find that a bit scary?

Catch22

01-17-2004, 03:29 AM

A lot of the fans were paid to be there they are saying on the news out here.

Catch22

01-17-2004, 03:33 AM

Here is a site showing his face over the years. Shows the fake nose tip.

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html

Irish

01-17-2004, 09:03 AM

Lixy---In court,they tell you that "Ignorance of the law,is NO excuse!"After watching,some of the court proceedings,I REALLY
don't think,that he realises,just how serious,these charges are.
He was late for the court date,got chewed out,by the judge,for
being late.His "newer"lawyer,who isn't cleared,to practice law in
Calif. yet,was told by the judge,to sit down & shut up!This isn't
the OJ trial & this judge isn't Judge Ito.He sat in his car,for 10mins,
before court & then shook hands,with many on his way in.No wonder,he was late!After,supporters were invited,back to Never-
land,for a snack & tour. Irish

BIBI

01-17-2004, 01:35 PM

After seeing his mug shot, all I could think of was that he must be the guy that lived in my closet when I was a kid....

LixyChick

01-18-2004, 09:39 PM

LMAO@BIBI!!!

OMG! I think he's one and the same of the monster under my bed!

Irish

01-18-2004, 11:57 PM

Have either of you seen that ad, for picture telephones,on TV?
A man opens his closet door.There is a monster there.He says
something about the fact that he's the one that was there,when he was a kid. Irish
P.S.With,the picture phone,he can send proof,that the monster,
really exists.When I was a kid,there was a black panther,in mine.
Probably because of the movie,that I saw with my Grandmother,
that had a black panther,killing all of the kids,in the movie,

BIBI

01-19-2004, 12:03 AM

Yes I have seen that commercial and it makes me laugh each time it's on......but he's kinda cute and endearing compared to Jacko's mug :)

Catch22

01-20-2004, 07:08 AM

He has a Roman nose. If he goes out in the sun, it melts and roams all over his face!

Irish

01-20-2004, 08:35 AM

Q:How does Jacko,pick his nose?

A:From a catalog!
Irish

BIBI

01-20-2004, 09:07 AM

LOL @ C22 and Irish

jseal

02-14-2004, 11:16 AM

Gentlefolk,

The judge handling Michael Jackson's child molestation trial, Rodney Melville, told a pre-trial hearing in Santa Maria, California that he would like it "to be our goal to try this case by the end of the year".

Both prosecution and defense attorneys said they could make the deadline.

Regular speed demons, yes?

Irish

02-14-2004, 11:29 AM

jseal---From everything that I've seen on the "Gossip" columns,on
TV,he may be broke by then.How do these people,go thru millions
of dollars?Jacko,Mike Tyson,etc.(many more)A hundred dollars,is
alot of money,to me. Irish
P.S.Of course,these gossips(like politics)are beleived entirely,by
the side that you're on.

jseal

02-25-2004, 01:07 PM

Gentlefolk,

Mr. Jackson and his former wife Debbie Rowe have agreed to allow a retired judge to mediate in a family dispute. L.A. Judge Stephen Lachs has been appointed to handle the undisclosed matter between the divorced couple.

It has been reported that Ms Rowe, mother of Prince Michael I and Paris, is seeking custody of the children. Mr. Jackson and Ms. Rowe were married in 1996 and divorced three years later.

Irish

02-25-2004, 01:38 PM

jseal---I don't know,if it's true or not.Many news shows,reported
that, those children,are not technically,even his.The sperm was
supposedly gotten at a sperm donor bank,and was "invitro"(sp?)
implanted into her body.You hear so many stories,that you don't
know what to believe! Irish

Catch22

02-25-2004, 01:46 PM

Doubt much of him is his anyhow. There must be lots of interesting things in jars around his place!

lakritze

02-25-2004, 02:12 PM

Prince Michael? and Paris? Ahhhhh isn't that cute.Little Paris has got her daddy's nose. Now give it back to him baby.

jseal

03-02-2004, 11:23 AM

Gentlefolk,

Investigators in the child molestation case against Mr. Jackson have taken phone records, pop videos and a DVD of a party from his home. Court papers released on Monday listed the items taken along with details of search warrants and affidavits. The judge agreed last month to release the records but ordered details to be omitted.

Phone records were taken in response to a warrant issued on January 22nd. The documents also show a search of an unidentified property on January 30th, during which police took computers, photos, videos, three videos of Mr Jackson on compact discs and a DVD of a party at Neverland. A January 31st search led to the taking of computers, documents - some involving Mr. Jackson - and videotapes.

The address of the property was removed, but law enforcement officials confirmed they had been searching the Calabasas residence of one of Jackson's former producers, Marc Schaffel.