Non political, political question

[skipthisone]

I have a question for you all that is about politics, but without going into any side of politics. I work on political campaigns and this issue has been bugging me.

The sample:

You have a seat in the house or senate or whatever you call it. The balance of which is almost 50-50...You have an upcoming primary election within your party and you have two choices. One an almost guaranteed winner in the general election against the other party...BUT he/she holds almost none of your views but would his win would give you control of the house/senate. The other person holds all or most of your views but would have a hard uphill fight to win the general election....

Who would you vote for, the one that held your values or the one that might make some of your values come foward and voted on if that party controlled the house/senate???



Ok somebody sex me up and get me out of this thought...

[Cheyanne]

Wonders if she can be Skips intern?

[Lilith]

Shit...a vote for my own views or a vote to further a greater good. Greater good.....I would hope.

But ask me again later...:p

[skipthisone]

but i should note...the greater good might not be served because if the person elected doesnt hold all your views they might not be brought up in the 1st place.

and yes cheyanne, i accept all interns on a trial run under my desk.

[dicksbro]

I'm going to write in Mickey Mouse and see what happens. :confused:

[Lilith]

My assumption is that having "my " party with a majority would most likely make sure someone represented some of my ideals.

[LixyChick]

*rubbing my hands up and down your thighs in hopes that it counts as a vote for the "sexing you up" part!*

Hmmmm......really tough question......How long before the election? It's not unheard of for a darkhorse to pull it all in and win! I think it would depend on how much time is left before the election! I would probably choose right there in the booth after listening to the polls as I drove to cast my ballot!

[skipthisone]

Originally posted by LixyChick
*rubbing my hands up and down your thighs in hopes that it counts as a vote for the "sexing you up" part!*

I would probably choose right there in the booth after listening to the polls as I drove to cast my ballot!


Got my vote on the sexing up....but as for the last comment. I never ever do that, I consider that to be the worst thing I could do as a voter. But I am way too into politics and know whom I am going to vote for months and months in advance.

[Cheyanne]

*runs to the closet and puts on her "Blue Dress" and grabs a box of Cubans cigars- heads out the door*

[LixyChick]

Well.......you gave a tough scenario........

I usually know who I will vote for.....but I've never been faced with this specific example before.....so I punted!

[skipthisone]

punt that rhymes with _ _ _ _ and that made me smile...LOL

[LixyChick]

If that makes you smile......have I got rhymes for you!

It = _ _ _

Bet = _ _ _

Rows = _ _ _ _

Rum = _ _ _

;) TeeHee!

[BlueSwede]

I have to agree with Lilith. Most of the time, in most places where I have lived, the people who really do hold all or most of my views never win; they are too much in the minority. Thus, I always vote in cases as you mention for the person representing "my" party, in hopes that if the result would be that "my" party would hold the majority in the House or Senate, I'd have a better chance of at least SOME of my views or values represented and "winning" when it comes to the members voting on particular issues. Better to have SOME of what I want get through Congress than most of what I DON'T want getting through Congress. Plus, I know that most of the time, even if a particular person's views don't represent most of mine but that person is a member of the party that usually DOES represent more of my views, that person is more likely to acquiesce and vote the way the other members of that party vote once he or she is elected (in other words, he or she will back their party). (I don't know if that is clear as mud....Sorry!)

[BlondeCurlGirl]

I'm the one that could *REALLY* use an internship right now ;) Got room for me under there too, Skip?? :D

[Scarecrow]

DONALD DUCK for Pres.

[Sharni]

I'd vote for my values!

[skipthisone]

I am leaning towards that Sharni. The state I live in 45% of the people share my values....and cover 95% of the area...but the big city at the top does not and they control 55% of the vote, so my side rarely wins.

The reason of my doubt in this case, is that I work and work on these campaigns for guys i believe in so very much...but always lose....and losing everytime SUCKS

[Lilith]

But standing up for what you believe in is truly an admirable quality. Sometimes it is better to lose with dignity than to win by sacrificing your ideals.





See I told you I would be wishy washy on this one.

[skipthisone]

I always agree with that. One of my best friends is a die-hard on the opposite end as me...but he never gives in...that is why he is my best friend.

[PantyFanatic]

…I work and work on these campaigns for guys i believe in so very much...but always lose....and losing everytime SUCKS
is winning with a looser winning?

or a vote to further a greater good.
how often is the common man part of the common good?

…even if a particular person's views don't represent most of mine ….. that person is likely to acquiesce and vote the way the other members of that party vote …
Candidates views are written in pencle………. By somebody else.

…having "my " party with a majority would most likely make sure someone represented some of my ideals….
Party platforms are written in smoke.

…choose right there in the booth after listening to the polls as I drove to cast my ballot!…
And don’t forget to stop and pick up YOUR convictions on the way home. They'll be freshly pressed and ready at the radio station.

DONALD DUCK for Pres.
Bugs Bunny for Vic Pres.
Then we could have DAFFY as Pres.



(never mind!……. We’ve already done that.)

[Loulabelle]

Hmmmmm............


Within the theory of democracy if we all voted for what we believed in, then whomever was in power, would be representing the views of the majority of the population. And if your views don't happen to be in the majority then unfortunately, you lose. That's the whole point. So from a theoretical standpoint, that's what I'd do.

HOWEVER:

a) Shouldn't the person you're voting for be upholding the basic values of 'your' party? And if they don't, shouldn't you consider joining another?

b) Sometimes it can be better to have a good leader with whom you disagree than a bad one, with whom you concur.

c) A lot depends on your electoral system: if you have a first past the post system, it may be better to vote tactically than for the person who upholds your beliefs.

d) All this talk about Skip's erections is making me horny...........oh sorry, what did you say? E-L-E-C-T-I-O-N-S? Ooops - my mistake. :p

[skipthisone]

Hey I was just heading to one of your threads to work on that one with the "r"....join me?

[Loulabelle]

Hehehe....you BET! x

[skipthisone]

Was that like deciding at the polls?

[Loulabelle]

Some decisions just come easy to me hunny-bun. ;)

[skipthisone]

You are just trying to make me wet...



Damn if it isnt working.

[Irish]

I wasn't going to awnser this because politics always dissappoint
me.I would vote for what I believed in because if you don't satisfy
the person that looks back from the mirror,you really are a loser.
You have compromised your beliefs.Perhaps that is why we're (wife&I)registered as independants.While every party has some
good,it also has some bad! Irish