Have an Original Thought!!!!

[skipthisone]

Lately I have seen just a boat-load (that is just smaller than a shit-load, but bigger than a barrel-load) of movies come out that are remakes of an original. I am all for movies, but I have a problem when they remake or "update" classics. At first this year I was offended with Ocean's 11, COME ON, this was most of the rat pack in the original, how can mess with that. But now last night I went to see Solaris out of some sick facination to see how much George Clooney could screw this up and in my opinion the movie was crap. Please, please if you can get it go out and rent the original 1970's edition made in russia, it is a great movie. Now also these two movies have George CLooney in common, but come on he is eye candy, the guy cannot act his way out of a paper bag, he should go back to making cheap horror flicks.

Ok sorry for the rant, movies are my addiction....ok so a question to all of you have you seen an original movie, something that you just said after you watched, Now that was good, and a great idea???

The last one I sat back and said that was "The Truman Show"...

[Scarlett]

I will have to think on that question for a bit.
I just wanted to say the the original Solaris (in Russian) was on TV last night. I can't remember the channel but I remember seeing it on as I was flipping channels.

[Donkey]

originality is merely the art of concealing your source.

[Sarriah]

NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS I swear ive seen that movie like 900000000000 times.. Its on everytime I clean the house, everytime my kid bros are around, evertime im bored, evertime I want something to sing along with.. Its a wonderfull movie, that I cant get enough of.. Im sure its not what you were asking bout but I cant help but rave about that movie...

BTW George CLooney is seksay!!!!! teehee =) *drool..

[Coach Knight]

Oh STO, I hated the Truman Show.
Oh and there's some Kevin Kline movie coming out where he plays a though-provoking teacher at a boy's prep school in the Northeast. I liked that movie the last time I saw it ... when it was called "Dead Poet's Society."

As for original ideas, there aren't many ... I guess the last good idea that I couldn't predict what was going to happen was "The Sixth Sense."

You know who has original ideas for movies: Lifetime
I have never seen the same formulaic movie on that channel. ;);)
I mean how many times can they make the same movie about some (insert adjective here like abusive, alcoholic, addicted, possesive) boyfriend/husband where the girl doesn't see this behavior coming but then is vidicated at the end of the movie.

Talk about going on a Lixy rant. Well it's been a while since I have written a long response.

[Lorelei]

This is tough for young people like me. There may be older movies like them that I'm not aware of.....But I would have to say:

RESERVOIR DOGS (1992) & PULP FICTION (1994)

At that time, I believe it was the late great Gene Siskel who said a lot of copycat hipster-ganster films will start coming out in the near future as a result of these two Quentin Tarantino films.

Siskel was right.

[Sugarsprinkles]

Well Skip, I can't suggest any movie that's outstanding for original thought at the the moment, but I really have to agree with your complaint about remakes. Some other "What the Hell Were They Thinking?" remakes are the updated "Godzilla", "The Mummy", "The Nutty Professor", and "Doctor Doolittle." But please let me embellish on your rant if you don't mind..............
My real pet peeve is Hollywood's mindset of "If they loved ONE movie about.......(insert subject of your own choice like Superheroes or Disasters)..........then they'll LOVE a half dozen more!!! OR....Why can't they think of something NEW instead of turning every old TV show or comic book or cartoon show into a movie???? There are movies out there that just had no business being made.....i.e. The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, The Flintstones, The Beverly Hillbillies, Dennis the Menace, and the "Brady Bunch" movies.
Ok...I'm turning the soap box back over to Skip now.........

[Lorelei]

Originally posted by Sugarsprinkles
My real pet peeve is Hollywood's mindset of "If they loved ONE movie about.......(insert subject of your own choice like Superheroes or Disasters)..........then they'll LOVE a half dozen more!!! OR....Why can't they think of something NEW instead of turning every old TV show or comic book or cartoon show into a movie???? There are movies out there that just had no business being made.....

That's why I mostly watch Indie films---Oh! BEFORE SUNRISE and WAKING LIFE are excellent movies! Like Tarantino's, they are both similar films too. Great idea! Talkfest films about life....Both are directed by Richard Linklater, who is becoming one of my favorite directors. :D

[BlondeCurlGirl]

Enjoyed the twist on reality in Shakespeare in Love...both a humorous and beautiful love story

[T-S]

Originally posted by skipthisone

Ok sorry for the rant, movies are my addiction....ok so a question to all of you have you seen an original movie, something that you just said after you watched, Now that was good, and a great idea???


Not new as such but one that springs to mind is Léon with Jean Reno

[Vintage Vixen]

Totally mindless raunchy humor...we loved it "Jay and Silent Bob strike back:):):)" We rented it for the 2nd time sunday lol.

[LixyChick]

Originally I thought this was a thread on original thoughts! Then I realized it originated at the rants of the originator on originality in movies. I originally was gonna post an original thought as to originality. I can see from the original question that I am not all that original in thinking originally that this was about original thoughts.

So I'll keep mine to myself..........as I am sure you all originally thought I should before I started this reply!

Could someone please let me know when they do a re-make of Forrest Gump. That's the last "original" movie I've seen...........as a matter of fact it's the last movie (period) that I've seen!

[skipthisone]

Now that was a lixy rant!!

[Wombat]

Totally cheap and nasty but still a cult classic for me is the original Gone in 60 Seconds. That 45 minute car chase is a one of a kind. The remake with Nicholas Cage was very slick and well polished but it was a big let down for my money.

[Lorelei]

Originally posted by Wombat
Totally cheap and nasty but still a cult classic for me is the original Gone in 60 Seconds. That 45 minute car chase is a one of a kind. The remake with Nicholas Cage was very slick and well polished but it was a big let down for my money.

I have a friend who feels the exact same way about the original GONE IN 60 SECONDS and the remake. He definitely preferred the original.

[Oldfart]

Skipthisone, if your original thought originally sought to canvas the originality of original movies, then you have to return to the original thought I thought you thought was originally in the movies to see if the originality came initially from the original or whether the original's origins were originally elsewhere.

[Lorelei]

It really doesn't have to do with what you're thinking, as long as he believes it is an original film/idea.

If the true original was in a different film, then the said film is not truly original, of course, but unless someone can dispute that the said film is not truly original, I'd take their word for it. :)

[axe31]

there are huge amounts of origanal ideas by very talented
people but the film studios have no back bone to take risks
if aproched now some clasic films would never have been made

[martian]

Originally posted by axe31
there are huge amounts of origanal ideas by very talented
people but the film studios have no back bone to take risks
if aproched now some clasic films would never have been made

Remember, movies are a multi-billion dollar business. They exist for the purpose of getting asses in seats. Whatever will gets people through the door will get made. This is why we have so much derivative pablum. Originality counts as an unknown. Traditionally, the unknown is what we fear (especially studios which fear it because they don't know how to, or if they can make a buck off of it).

Taking a small tangent, all December the Trio channel (check local listings for availability) is running with the theme "Brilliant, but Cancelled." It is a cavalcade of wonderful television shows that were ahead of their time, or just too original. Networks, in the business of keeping asses on the couch, did not know how to market these shows to appeal to a broader audience, or would just not give enough time to find an audience. They had a documentary on last night about this that was amazing. All month they are going to spotlight shows that had abbreviated runs from Freaks and Geeks, The Ernie Kovacs Show, Gun. . . Check it out at www.triotv.com

The last original movie I saw was _Spirited Away_ , this weekend. It is an anime about a little girl whose family wanders into the spirit world and is turned into pigs. The little girl indentures herself to a demon and winds up working in the spa at a spirit bathouse, until she can rescue her parents, mend broken souls, and save everyone in the spirit realm. This one is a charmer. 4 stars.

[dzbuster]

i like remakes kind of how i enjoy movies based on books. as far as originality someone said there are only 3 jokes since the beginnings of time. i believe it was that sherman(?) guy who wrote hello mudda and rape of the ape. anywho the last original movie i saw was 40 days/40 nights. i guess real war stories don't count.

[Santiago]

'Requiem for a Dream' was a fucked up original movie.

[Lorelei]

Originally posted by Santiago
'Requiem for a Dream' was a fucked up original movie.

How about the scene with Jennifer Connelly on the table with the other girl at the party. WOO HOO!! :D

You have to get it DIRECTOR'S CUT to see that scene.

BTW, Ellen Burstyn was marvelous in the film!

[incitatus]

There is nothing new under the sun.
-King Solomon




I think axe31 hit the nail on the head... and martian expounded on the comment greatly. Commercial studios don't have the backbone to try new stuff.

Lorelei was right: indie films are the way to go if you want originality.


"The Truman Show" is one of the few Jim Carrey movies I ever liked. (The other one being "Man on the Moon")

'Requiem for a Dream' was a fucked up original movie.

I'll have to agree -though it WAS an eye-opener.


My friend said, "What about 'The Blair Witch Project'? "

Well? Who has an opinion on that one?
(I thought it was anti-climactic)

[Lorelei]

Originally posted by incitatus
My friend said, "What about 'The Blair Witch Project'? "

Well? Who has an opinion on that one?
(I thought it was anti-climactic)

Funny as hell!! So fuckin' campy!

Not to give anything away, but it was very funny until someone died, then it got creepy. I thought the ending was really creepy too.

I liked it.

BLAIR WITCH 2 sucked big-time. I saw about 10 minutes of it on cable and then changed the channel.

[barcodedeyes]

Lorelei, this is Santiago posting on his gf's name...

I dont have the directors cut, all I remember was the two girls had a big black dildo, and then the guys said "ass to ass" and the scene changed... I was so fuckin dissapointed that I didnt get to see what happened...

Do you get to see more in the directors cut?

[Lorelei]

In the director's cut, they did show them using the dildo on the table. Showing close-up shots of the movements and expression on Connelly's face. I forgot exactly how much they showed with them on the table. It's been a long time since I seen it. Of course all of this is simulated sex.

They showed Connelly's character as not liking one bit of it. That was disappointing. I would have enjoyed it! But of course, society still see that sort of thing as degrading.

[LixyChick]

I think OldFart caught my disease! LMAO OF!