woo hoo at last someone has brought up this very important question!
I have always said it's OVER but little loulabelle puts it under!
I'm winning this battle when I go to visit her because I always make sure it's OVER and she's stopped turning it back

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There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't...

Sarcasm: It's not big and it's not clever...........but it's funny as fuck!

The Special One!