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BamaKyttn 02-09-2004 11:52 PM

Shameless plug
 
look at some of the sweet faces that turn up in rescue and at animal shelters daily. all these animals have been in rescue a year or all their lives. and these are just the ones in my self-operated home based operation. Any Pixies in Tn Ga Ms or Fl want to submit an application?

http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?ac...=AL10&preview=1

FussyPucker 02-10-2004 04:04 AM

awwwwwwwwwwww cute overload!!! I would take every homeless dog in if I could.

SexKitten 02-10-2004 04:13 AM

I believe that all animals (particularly dogs and cats) MUST be fixed to prevent the birth of unwanted animals. Responsible people turn them into rehoming charities but some people inhumanely kill the unwanted young.

Our cats are fixed, however my guppies cannot be stopped.

The only animals which should be kept unaltered are those which are being used in responsible (mainly pedigree) breeders homes.

Kitty

Grumble 02-10-2004 04:39 AM

True sex kitten, it is responsible to have them fixed so we have less homeless animals.

I have had all my pets fixed and even had the big V myself in sympathy LOL

LixyChick 02-10-2004 06:06 AM

I can't open the link BamaKyttn!

Not because it won't open......but because my heart bleeds for these animals and I want to take them all!

I have a cat....and he is neutered....and I can't take in anymore animals until he is no longer with us because he is so mean he'll hurt them (and himself in the process, I am sure). When he is gone....I'll have a menagerie!

P.S. You'd think our cat would be more grateful.....as we got him from the A.S.P.C.A. and he was on "death row"! We've had him for 16+ years now.

osuche 02-10-2004 07:03 AM

I love my little kitty, and she is spayed

Loulabelle 02-10-2004 08:06 AM

Our fish are kinda hard to neuter....but then again, I've not heard anyone in our neighbourhood complaining of stray guppies roaming the streets!

Aqua 02-10-2004 02:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Loulabelle
Our fish are kinda hard to neuter....but then again, I've not heard anyone in our neighbourhood complaining of stray guppies roaming the streets!

There used to be complaints of that in my Mom's neighborhood, but that hasn't been an issue for a while now... :p

btw Lixy, We DO have a menagerie at our house! :D

And all our pets are 'fixed'.

Loulabelle 02-10-2004 02:13 PM

Hehehe - I bet :D ;) :p

BamaKyttn 02-10-2004 07:18 PM

I love my pets but I must say the cats are the most aggravating, but I also know they are the least adoptable. in our local shelter they put down over 1,000 cats and only 3 dogs and the dogs were due to aggression problems, not that they weren't adopted. of the 19 cats we have in the house (I don't believe in outside cats as they have this horrid tendancy to turn into road pizza or get injured by roaming wildlife) only 4 of them are mine
12 of them are permanant residents(one of mine is up for adoption...... his name is Irish.....).

As for the dogs we turn away more potential adopters than we adopt out because some people just don't have the right lifestyle to take in a dog who has issues like these have. Such as Chrhistian my 80 LBs poodle. he is 10 years old and shreds anything fluffy stuffed animals,underwear, he loves body pillows and can climb a 6 foot fence. or Jasper the catahoula mix who is very nervous and runs at the sight of a 9 mm. he is also a digger..... then there are some whop just don't read where it says ONE STATE RADIUS from alabama and call or e-mail from Maine or Cali and we have to say here are your contacts for your area, try to get a local rescue dog first.

Always,
Kyttn

nikki1979 02-11-2004 12:12 PM

i need a yes to both one , yes i spayed my cat, but no i wont fix my dog , he will be pimped out as soon as he is of age. we spent to much on him not to let him earn his keep the fun way! hes also beautiful well tempered from a great pedigree and show spec on everything soooooooooooooo no i will not get him fixed, and this fall i will be getting a female for him to mate w , he is the start of my breeding career i hope to one day live on 40 acres w severl dogs that i breed. but i do think that if u have no intentions of breeding ur animals responsibly that u shud fix them .

i voted no bc of him

~nikki

BamaKyttn 02-11-2004 01:09 PM

Nikki before you breed I must say that you should see if your dog measures up to what the breed standard says. I breed almost once every eight or so years, and then only champion to champion. all of my dogs that are bred are in a 6 generation pedigree completely championed. I'm sure everyone has a dog or cat they think is wonderful but rememebr there are dogs in rescue and shelters everywhere just like that that no one will take. I suggets you talk to a local breeder of your breed who does show and ask them to mentor you. Before you stud a dog out you should make sure the bitch is tested for brucillosis(which can cost you the stud fee and make your stud unable to be bred because if he gets it from an infected bitch then ever bitch he breeds will abort.) You need to test him and make sure he is free from genetic diseases such as but not limited to Hip Dysplasia, Luxating patella, Eye anomalies, thyroid conditions, there is a huge array of diseases that dogs are host to and always try to breed away from them, look at it as slightly playing god, you can insure that the next generation doesn't hurt. you have to be certain that you want to take on responsibility of putting 8-10 new warm bodies in the world that may not be warm past age 2.

a site on breeding

http://www.dogocanario.org/breeding.htm

Every dog is entitled to a loving home but not every dog is entitled to a piece of ass.

nikki1979 02-11-2004 05:46 PM

BamaKyttn he is 100% breed standard and i have a pedagree 4 or 5 yrs back cant remember w out opening the file i bought him froma local breeder and his parents and granparents and great granparents are all champions
so ya ive researched it lol hehehehehe he was purchased bc i not only wanted a dog but i wanted a stud
~nikki

BamaKyttn 02-11-2004 09:18 PM

Do you plan on showing him, just b/c he's champion produced doesn't mean he's ch quality. as I said, more is judged than personality, theres gait, stack, structure, bite, is he physically and mentally able to perform the job the breed was meant to do? My dogs are herding breeds so they must have a herding cert as well as a ch and a competition title (agility, flyball, obed, Rally-o) but of course I'm breeding all around dogs....

In addition to that I have hips, eyes, and elbows checked on my dogs because the degenerative hip disease is so bad in my breed, though most breeds have it occuring somehwere. By the time I do my health checks and get my titles I don't even come close to breaking even with a litter of puppies even at selling them $300 - 400 but dog breeding should not be a money makeing scheme. I do it for love and stewardship of the breed, because I feel that my dog has a generous contribution to make to the gene pool.

Another thing a good breeder does is take rescues of their breed because sometimes people really don't need that cute fluffy puppy that is going to be eating their couch in two months. I talk more people out of buying my breed than I sell to because some people just see that "cute blue dog, with no tail, it just looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cute!" and don't know that this a a breed used to herd sheep and cattle in the basque regions, they need EXCERCISE not room to run but someone to run with them. ( I also don't believe in yard dogs but that's a dog of a different size.!)

Always
Kyttn

nikki1979 02-12-2004 06:29 AM

BamaKyttn yes ive researched his breed , i did it before i spent $700 on him. and right now at 8 mos he has the gate he has the head size and he has all that jazz. it has been a goal of mine for a long time to have 40 acres and 8 dogs to breed and i wud never venture in to that untill i knew what i was doing, true i still have a lot to learn but every day i learn more and i still have awhile to learn considering he is not of age to breed yet. as soon as i find an agility program around this shit hole i live in ill bring him ther but so far as i knoew the closet is an hours drive and im not drivin 2 hrs a few times a week when i have to take my girl along w me . i understand ur concerns on breeding and i have them to but my dog IS breeding standard and i get kinda defensive when ppl tell me i dont know what im doing when i have spent so much time and money on him. yes he is "soooooooooooooooo cute" all yellow lab puppies are. but he is also smart (as smart as an 8months lab can be) and up to breed standard and speck. if he wasnt i wud never think about breeding him cuz i wud never make my money back on him. i had my cat fixed bc im responsible to know there are more than enough cats roaming the streets and more than enough kitty road kill. and like i know what im doing w the cat i also know what im doing w my dog. thank u for the concern and if i didnt feel as if i was being talked down to id probly welcome it

~nikki

BamaKyttn 02-12-2004 06:37 PM

So you don't plan on showing him....

anyway talked down to, educated all in all it's the same thing. I start with the basic concerns always you never know what level anyone is on. Labs are a good breed, high energy, destructive but good. (I have a catahoula that is more destructive than any lab I know...... he has eaten 5 crates so far..... and I have the newest one wired together after 3 weeks b/c he's already broken the front out and he's almost 2!)

So you've set astide a stud contract, IE I want $X and a puppy, and your bitch must be Brusc tested. What are you going to ask that the bitch do, any titles required, or just a warm body and a desire?

I may seem harsh etc but remember I'm at both ends of the spectrum, I produce puppies but I also tell anyone who purchases a pup that (in contract) the dog must come back to me if anything changes in the way is it treated or living..if someone in the imm fam dies, it comes to ME and no one else. I also require the dog lives inside but as I've said thats a different deal.


Always
Kyttn
(the pixies Meanie)

BamaKyttn 02-12-2004 06:40 PM

OH! I got to take one of my babies to work with me today! the pre-schoolers and I did a lesson on what living things need, food water shelter (I took her crate) and clothes (she had a diaper on the kids thought that was funny as hell!) I was amazed at how still and quiet 22 preschoolers could be and even restrained I told them at first only to watch her trundle around not to pet her..... noone even tried to touch her lil fuzzy butt!

After the lesson I put her back in her crate "her bedroom" and about ten of my high-energy kids gathered around her on their stomachs heads on hands and watched her nap for 15 minutes. it was wonderful!


>warm Fuzzies<

Always
Kyttn

nikki1979 02-13-2004 05:33 AM

BamaKyttn yes we plan to show him, ive been doing ongoing research in that area and i found (after weeks and weeks of searching ) yesterday a place that trains in field trials and a place that trains in agility. i dont plan on doing ring work w him bc after the first 2 i really dont think ill have time and i personally belive that they are the most important. im sure that thats just my personal feelings on it tho, but i thikn a gun dog shud know what do in the fields and agility is good for them as well. i think if i was a dog id have more fun doing those than prancing around a ring LOL. he is an idoor dog primarly . of course we let him out to do his buisness and to play but he doesnt stay out for to very long and when we leave to go somewhere hes inside. i dont do crate training w him bc hes doing pretty good with out it .ive not set the stud fee yet bc im still researching how that works in england and im pretty much sure that im only going to bred him w the female we get so its not tooooooooooooo big a deal if i do decide to ill do it then. but i am going to research it any ways. i do understand the point ur coming from but i belive helpful hints shud not sound as if ur talkin to a 2 yr old. ill be the first to admit that ive alot to learn we all do in some way shape or form. and any helpfull advice u have on breeding and training in england that u can give w a smile in the message ill gleady take . i didnt want to come off sounding like a bitch in my last message but i was insulted and i get defensive (as most all of us do ) when i am. i know there are to many unwanted animals in the world. thats not a debate for me i agree w the fact that all animals that arnt being used as breeding stock need to be fixed. no question about it. but my dog is breeding stock and i still have a few years to learn before i have to do it. we wont be gettin a female untill this fall and i wont breed her till shes at least 2 so whats that ? 2 1/2 yrs about before my Tibby gets his grove on?? and we make sure to keep him in our fence hes never (nock on wood) jumped out . when he has followed us out the door he has never darted out down the road like alot of dogs will . hes fully traing to walk beside me w no lead (as soon as i get anywhere near where a car cud be hes back on it id die if i lost him) we are very carfull w him so he doesnt get out and have any accedents w a female. i do understand the concerns u have i just get bitchy like anyone else. and on the stud contract if and when we stud him to another bitch i doubt ill want a puppie. we are only allowed to move two animals tho the military. so our dog and our bitch will be it ill just take a stud fee and be happy.

oh and about ur preschoolers ...OMG TO CUTE! i luv to watch and help kids play w puppies! its so much fun its amazing that they try so hard to be good w them i think they know ull take the pups away if they arnt LOL. i do belive when i get back stateside and have my land im going to bring pups around to do the "pet therapy" stuff. i think labs wud be great for that cuz they really are a very patient breed and as long as they are being luved on they are happy as can be LOL.good luck w the crates lol sounds like u got ur hands full

~nikki

BamaKyttn 02-21-2004 05:48 PM

Nikki!
 
Nikki okay I've been talking with some people over there, an english branch of one of my breeds' top kennels Applethorne Aussies. I really would suggest you talk to her about the way you should go about having your dog viewed, and what to use to help better the breed.

if you'd like I will PM you her e-mail addy so you two can talk more in depth, and she may even know some good lab people who can help you out as well!

sorry it's been so long you guys all know how much I like to talk so it's been a slow conversation, we've been compareing our opinions of different dogs..... eheheheh


Always
Kyttn


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