Puhlease yourowndamself...clearly you didn't bother checking out the link to the book in my post...the Bushco administration has set up the return of the Imperial Presidency that was knocked down after the Nixon years (which Dick Chaney was player in), & has set some dangerous precedents that not only affect us now, but could lead to frightening consequences from future presidents as well...

And I've tried being reasonable my whole life, & it got me nowhere...from now on, I'm a muckracker & a shitstirrer, & consequences be damned...

scotzoidman,

Good luck!

I'm still waiting for links that would disprove Cheney has financially benefited from this war. You can talk in circles but I would like to hold you to this point. You attack my POV but won't show me any evidence to the contrary and your tone leaves a lot to be desired.

Scotz I think they interviewed the author of the book you linked on NPR earlier this week. He had a lot of interesting things to say about our VP, and the amount of time he's been working on increasing Executive power.

The best part though will be when a Dem is in power again and that President uses every power the Reps gave the Executive branch and the right will have noone to blame but themselves for the unprecedented power given to the Pres.

Innocent until Guilty is a right you have in a court of law. This dose not apply to the court of public opinion.

well put, boog.

:withstupi

"court of public opinion"...maybe it dates me, that I remember some fellow named "Adlai" coining that phrase :shrug:

scotzoidman,

Yes sir. I believe that it happened during the Cuban Missle Crisis.

Cheney probably put all his holdings into his wife's name......lol

........and no, I have no links or sites of reference to prove this.

It's just my opinion! ;)

As I understand things, typically when elected officials take office, they put all their investments in a trust, supposedly so they won't be involved in day-to-day dealings with their own stocks/bonds/etc...what I've never understood is how they're supposed to forget what companies they were vested in when they put it in the trust, & are we supposed to believe that they won't act in their own self-interest during their term of office...

During a slow period at work on the weekend, I was watching last season's episodes of Weeds. An outgoing city councillor was explaining the MOs of other councillors and threw out one line that made me snicker: He overcharges like Halliburton.

:)

Yes, we're supposed to believe that. And it happens just many times as it doesn't happen. What it boils down to is integrity. A person of character and integrity will not abuse the position of trust they are in (beit political office or otherwise).

I am in a position of trust that could be abused for my personal wellbeing. I can steer business to vendors that would be more than happy to offer "finder's fees" or discounted work on my house in exchange for executing contracts with them. That I abide by the procedures established by the board of directors is less because it is what others expect of me than because it's what I expect of myself. I may live in a state where the governor and the mayors of a number of large cities felt free to take advantage of their power but that doesn't mean I have to. We all make choices in this world and at some point are called upon to live with them.

So at the end of the day, if Halliburton's profits are the result of an abuse of power linking back to VP Cheney then he should be held accountable...and all shareholders will suffer.

I feel so bold as to say that all of us here at Pixies would agree with that statement? But none of us here are capable of locating a smoking gun of that caliber so we're left criticizing opinions and arguing semantics.

Careful, dude, people may think you're not such a dumbass at large as you claim to be ;)

Sadly, there are smoking guns all over the place, but, as the saying goes, "There are none so blind, as they who will not see"...I'm thinking a new title is in order, "The Teflon Dick"...

I'd love that!


Wouldn't have to use lotion. :hot:





What can I say? My flashes of brilliance cum in spurts, then I'm right back to being a dumbass. :p

WildIrish,

Yes.